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RE: Steemvoter and MinnowBooster are joining forces

in #steemvoter7 years ago

Up to now, we have mainly been doing self votes on @steemvoter posts by convention. But now that both products are operating as part of a single business, we will also be using these votes on @minnowbooster update posts, and possibly other team related accounts from time to time.

Why? You have a revenue model for your "businesses," so why do you need to continue socializing the costs by taking from the reward pool that is meant for content creators?

If people do not want to pay for your services, then that is a sign that the business is not viable. Relying on self-voted posts with the stake of every person who is signed up for your services is not a revenue model. You offer premium services for a price. If you are not making enough money from that, then you need to re-work your business model, not post more often so that you can #rewardpoolrape with more accounts.

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I do not understand why so many people like this? They are openly advertising that they are going to fakeupvote your post if you pay them?

Well, I assume it's the same reason BookingTeam's daily link spam for $1000's of the reward pool also gets ton of upvotes. People are idiots and just upvote anything with a lot of votes.

they do staff just for $ :(

maybe you just translate with google :D

it is not fake voting it is steemit

Yes you are %100 right!

noinonononono!!!!! 50% damn rigth

And add to that, their moderator is blacklisted by cheetah.

Instant upvote your totally right !
They Took Our Jobs !

haha, thats funny

I was not aware of this, very good inquisitive information and I'm going to look more into this myself to be prepared

If people do not want to pay for your services, then that is a sign that the business is not viable. Relying on self-voted posts with the stake of every person who is signed up for your services is not a revenue model. You offer premium services for a price. If you are not making enough money from that, then you need to re-work your business model, not post more often so that you can #rewardpoolrape with more accounts.

Hello, Interesting post. I'm @evgenya86, nice to meet you! I hope you enjoy my blog, I will follow your account and vote, please follow me and vote ... Good luck in everything :)

How dare you preach to anyone or point fingers you bloody scammer ... you've set up fake accounts to capture minnow funds ... you are a thief plain and simple. Delete your account(s)

A bad messenger can have a good message.

Good point lol.

Steemvoter has 3000+ happy customers, it allows ALL Steemians to utilize auto-curation, not just those with the technical know how. A demand exists and it is being met at a fair price. If 3000+ customers are happy to pay a single up-vote for the service, it's quite frankly no body else's business. It is their up-vote and they choose to delegate it to Steemvoter, these votes don't go on comments or spam (a much bigger problem), they go on original content in the form of company posts. Posts costs time, servers cost money. "The good message" is slanderous libel.

If they have 3000+ happy customers, then they should figure out a way for those happy customers to pay for the service that they love so much, not have the other 250,000+ users* subsidize the costs of their "business" via the rewards pool.

And no, these votes mostly are not used on "original content." They are used on the same template post for another "guild" voting scheme.

*I know that these are not 250,000+ actual people, just as SV doesn't have 3,000+ actual customers.

I respect your opinion and your efforts on behalf of the community fighting spam and plagiarism, but I disagree on this.

Just because you don't like a business model doesn't mean it's a bad one - I hate big oil - but it's a great business model. The votes belong to the users, not me and not you, and if they are happy to pay for a premium service with that vote, I don't see the problem. The Steemit userbase are subsidizing the business to about the same degree as your original comment, and to the same degree as any other comment/post/service running on Steemit. In fact, I think comment voting is the biggest unnecessary drain on the rewards pool, it should be replaced with a tipping system.

You refer to subsidies and socialization, but at the end of the day, this is nothing of the sort: it is a free market enterprise. If there wasn't a demand for the service, it wouldn't exist.

I did try to discuss this with you on steemit.chat dm yesterday and I'm happy to continue there if you like, though I'm not sure if we'll be able to come to any sort of consensus.