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RE: Steemvoter News: Dust Settles and a Curation Guild is Born (Part 3 of 3)

in #steemvoter8 years ago (edited)

I like the idea of a one-per-day guild if the posts chosen are very good and chosen for their merit. Thanks for bringing something new to Steem.

I see the comments here are still talking about your downvoting guild idea from the last post. Did anyone read this post? Was it edited?

Anyway, since it's fresh here I'll comment on that too. I think this is an idea rife with potential abuse and you should listen to feedback about it. I agree with @anyx that if you implement it at all, it should be strictly opt-in, just as this new daily guild will be.

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Perhaps this show of Flag-maggeddon will make the Steem developers' decision easier with regards to keep or remove the flagging functionality on Steem.

This isn't what @sneak meant by what he said. Steem will continue to have downvoting. His opinion was a little unclear about removing it from the UI, but if downvoting was removed entirely from the Steemit UI I believe it would still remain in Steem. As explained elsewhere, a Steem without downvoting would have more flaws than how it is now.

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@marcgodard here. I wasn't a huge fan of the security guild idea. But I think we got something good from that idea that will come in the future. Also, this post was not edited as far as I am aware. I also personally see value in downvoting. What I have an issue with is when it is used in a threatening manner. Like someone said (and I am paraphrasing) "Oh I will use the 10000 accounts to down vote you". I believe down voting has value, but when used this way it is destructive. I really liked what @johnblow said somewhere in this thread.

You are paraphrasing to completely misrepresent what i said.

I was asked specifically about the accounts i used to DV you. I replied. That was not a threat in any way shape or form. I will downvote you if you continue to attempt to intimidate voters, because i think that posts that do so are harmful to the system.

And it will be with all my steem power. the fact that it comes from 5000 accounts is irrelevant, except inasmuch as this post made a big deal about me using multiple accounts to downvote, or that having multiple accounts made me a "guild".

In fact, i made the exact same point anyx did later on, that changing your terms and making the change opt-out is fraud and an abuse, and that if you went forward and attempted to perpetrate fraud, i would downvote you.

You yourself have frequently used the threat of down voting as retaliation of your own posts being down voted. I think most steemians agree retaliation flags are the worst reason you can give.