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RE: My accounts are on the Hive blacklist

in #steemworld5 years ago
// Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp

The Rules of the blacklist is too harsh, it's ridiculous. 1000SP before the announcement is $130. That's nothing. @blocktrades and whoever is behind the hardfork need to revise this ASAP

I think removing the ninja minded stake, is only the first step

Moving to the new Blockchain, we expect a safe place for free speech and free opinion. We can take sides, we can vote for whoever we want even for Justin Sun if he decides to onboard hive.

I expect Hive will be a completely better version of Steem not just a hardfork. We don't want Steem Blockchain code, we had millions of problems with it. We want the community, its values and its experiences; @steemchiller is part of that.

If Hive will be another centralised Blockchain under different names, I will be leaving it

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I think it's too late for them to fix that matter... They should've seen the problems right away and fixed them before putting that list into the code.

It isn't too late. By design it can be corrected in a later HF or even directly via an SPS proposal. Make your case and if Hive stakeholders agree then it will be done.

But that is not really a smart way of approaching such matters. In dubio pro reo. You should take the list to a usable content before applying it. What you are doing is equivalent to putting innocent people into jail because you slightly suspect they might maybe be criminal.

You're approaching that matter in a shoot first talk later fashion which I don't like.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the list, except for one technical error I'm aware of.

People should take responsibility for their actions. If you support centralizing a chain in any way then don't expect a new chain built for the entire purpose of decentralization to give you free coins.

Everyone on that list or not still has their Steem. Nothing has been taken away.

There is at least two I know of on the list that voted the top 20 not realizing that some of them were sockpuppets. First time witness voters trying to do the right thing - there might be more.

It will have to be sorted out via the SPS, but when the two seem a little older and less technical than the average age group, I am not sure how that is going to work.

@lichtblick is on this list as well! Can't be right!!!

Seems there was an error in the script, so I am guessing it will be sorted out once all the other technical things are taken care of.

except for one technical error I'm aware of

Are you going to fix that prior to taking that list live? Because that's a thing fixed in 3 Minutes if you know what you are doing.

Otherwise I think we can peacefully disagree on that. I don't have the stake to change such things, so I'll have to live with what you are doing...

No, it isn't feasible to change the code so soon before a hardfork. There are already exchanges running the release, and they already complained that getting it only a day or two before was way too late. (Ideally hard fork code is frozen and release a month before, but this was considered an emergency situation.)

This will need to be addressed on the Hive side.

That's very bad for all the users which are affected despite not applying to your criteria. I expect a quick solution for those accounts from the top 20 hive witnesses. ASAP after the hardfork. Those users shouldn't have to do anything more than others to get what they deserve.

It's absolutely not too late. They can do copies later on, with consensus to do so.

Of course they can. What they are too late to do is to gain my trust. Knowingly implementing faulty code which unfairly distributes funds is very trust-breaking in my opinion.

Read the latest post on @hiveio

This can be corrected and was necessary to avoid further being broken down. It was basically now or never. I have seen projects that took longer to prepare/do it perfect. They mess up at least as much, and they don't have any justification for mistakes any more. Things are being fixed quickly now, including this. Also, remember that feedback of the people involved is very much necessary. Now we have the feedback.

Does this mean that accounts less than 1000 will not receive Airdrop?

It means if someone proxied with more than 1000sp and did not unvote the puppets they don't get the airdrop. anyone with less than 1000sp does not get counted as a traitor.