incredible @hr1 to see you comment and to verify that you are not a bot ... you are a mysterious legend, stories have been written about who you really are. Many people appreciate your votes. I hardly saw your name in the post, I looked in all the comments to see if you appeared jajajaja ... I am thrilled to see that you are even part of this great work as @steeveapp congratulations: D
I really like the content that appears, it is exciting to discover the intuitiveness of the page. They have done a great job.
I am particularly used to Steemit. I like its visualization because I can see more publications at the same time, here I only see one on the screen and I have to go down more and more to see others; that's why I never got used to Busy. If I would have a way to visualize the feed as Steemit it would be super cool ...
Another thing that I noticed is that reputation increases. My raputation is 57.92 and it goes out at 58. Also, you can not see the photo on the cover of my last post
@danielvehe@cardboard Hmm, I am wondering why is that you prefer the small previews.. Couldn't it be just because you need to go through a number of posts before you find something interesting?
I like to see a lot and to have the freedom to decide, even if they are all of my interest, to be able to choose which one I read first. That I only leave one is very little. This is one of the reasons why I love pinterest and I'm really enjoying steempeak
I had the same exact thought, but they did have to get the idea out somehow. That, honestly, is how I think bidbots should be used - to inform people of new ideas and content, not just to boost all of someone's work and earn more money.
This is exactly what we've needed for awhile. Maybe it's just me but there seems to be this idea in the Steemit community that the websites built off the Steem blockchain need to be the wild west where anyone can post content and the site owners should just be hands off. For some sites I can see why that is necessary but there's too much junk. We need someone to say "no that's garbage." even if it's an AI saying it. Don't get me wrong anyone should be able to post to the Steem blockchain but we need more heavily curated interfaces.
Yeah, if you check @steeveapp account, you will see quite a few posts there that didn't get much attention. That is why we put this Beta release post together and decided to promote it this way.
If you ask me, it is pretty annoying that you have to do this, it is hard to spread the word any other way than getting to Trending. People generally don't resteem, so all that is left is get to Trending by payout.
If you ask me, it is pretty annoying that you have to do this, it is hard to spread the word any other way than getting to Trending. People generally don't resteem, so all that is left is get to Trending by payout.
That's just the way the world works, and it is no different on Steemit. The thing about paid bots people don't seem to understand is that they are a critical component of the economy. If a company/dev/content creator wants to advertise on Steemit and build brand awareness, they go the exchange and buy Steem to pay the bot, which in turn creates demand for the token. Demand for Steem doesn't just magically materialize because of all the "good content" people post on the platform.
Right, I get what you are saying. On the other hand, it is slightly (or perhaps highly) confusing on Steemit for example that there is Trending and Promoted while actually both are about promotion, just using different means to get attention.
To me it looks like that the whole thing accidentally works somehow just because people are paying bots to promote good things, because who would pay money to promote crap.
Your point is valid, but I don't like that Trending has very little to do with actual content quality. Promoted posts should be simply Promoted. I am not sure it is a good thing that you will never get into Trending without paying quite a lot of money yourself. But surely you can pay for a good article, get followers and then depend on them to vote on your stories.
On the other hand, Trending will probably never be and never was about content quality so much. In the early days it was enough for a single whale to vote on an article and it got there instantly.
But this is a broader issue to think about, how to promote good content, and everybody is thinking about that I guess. A new user can get super frustrated super quickly currently, I can tell you that.
Or perhaps Steem is just mirroring how real world works and there is nothing wrong with it. People with power are using it, people without power can do shit.
You really think vote selling is critical to our economy? I would suggest the contrary. They are what is holding us back.
I think what @mor, @void, and @hr1 are going to show us how much more valuable the user experience could be without so much pervasive paid votes.
Furthermore, while you think bid bots or vote selling to perhaps be an indispensible part of the ecosystem, I know they have been crucial in the proliferation of abuse accounts that continue to plague our chain and ward off mote scrupulous investors and bloggers.
Lastly, these services do a bit more than promotion. If everybody that used them declined rewards, would be for that but thats not what it is. Not by a longshot.
Once monetary incentives become great, the rules of the game always change. Abuse accounts are always going to be with us in one form or another, even the Steemit whitepaper acknowledged that.
Abuse accounts are always going to be with us in one form or another, even the Steemit whitepaper acknowledged that.
I am aware of this. I think the key is making abuse the path of greater resistance to these accounts. We've been working to that end with @steemflagrewards.
I agree, the situation is very ironic and was waiting if somebody would point it out :)
Btw. what do you think in general about the idea of filtering out the automated votes?
incredible @hr1 to see you comment and to verify that you are not a bot ... you are a mysterious legend, stories have been written about who you really are. Many people appreciate your votes. I hardly saw your name in the post, I looked in all the comments to see if you appeared jajajaja ... I am thrilled to see that you are even part of this great work as @steeveapp congratulations: D
Maybe I am a bot, just a really advanced one :)
So what do you think about Steeve so far?
hahahahaha good answer ...
I really like the content that appears, it is exciting to discover the intuitiveness of the page. They have done a great job.
I am particularly used to Steemit. I like its visualization because I can see more publications at the same time, here I only see one on the screen and I have to go down more and more to see others; that's why I never got used to Busy. If I would have a way to visualize the feed as Steemit it would be super cool ...
Another thing that I noticed is that reputation increases. My raputation is 57.92 and it goes out at 58. Also, you can not see the photo on the cover of my last post
I think that the "small post" view in feed will come at some point. I prefer this one too :)
@danielvehe @cardboard Hmm, I am wondering why is that you prefer the small previews.. Couldn't it be just because you need to go through a number of posts before you find something interesting?
I like to see a lot and to have the freedom to decide, even if they are all of my interest, to be able to choose which one I read first. That I only leave one is very little. This is one of the reasons why I love pinterest and I'm really enjoying steempeak
I get your point. Thanks for explaining, we will consider adding an alternative view.
@void already created an issue for it
Or I already saw the other posts. I like to get the general overview of the current feed and smaller posts allow me to see more at the same time.
I had the same exact thought, but they did have to get the idea out somehow. That, honestly, is how I think bidbots should be used - to inform people of new ideas and content, not just to boost all of someone's work and earn more money.
This is exactly what we've needed for awhile. Maybe it's just me but there seems to be this idea in the Steemit community that the websites built off the Steem blockchain need to be the wild west where anyone can post content and the site owners should just be hands off. For some sites I can see why that is necessary but there's too much junk. We need someone to say "no that's garbage." even if it's an AI saying it. Don't get me wrong anyone should be able to post to the Steem blockchain but we need more heavily curated interfaces.
Yeah, if you check @steeveapp account, you will see quite a few posts there that didn't get much attention. That is why we put this Beta release post together and decided to promote it this way.
If you ask me, it is pretty annoying that you have to do this, it is hard to spread the word any other way than getting to Trending. People generally don't resteem, so all that is left is get to Trending by payout.
That's just the way the world works, and it is no different on Steemit. The thing about paid bots people don't seem to understand is that they are a critical component of the economy. If a company/dev/content creator wants to advertise on Steemit and build brand awareness, they go the exchange and buy Steem to pay the bot, which in turn creates demand for the token. Demand for Steem doesn't just magically materialize because of all the "good content" people post on the platform.
Right, I get what you are saying. On the other hand, it is slightly (or perhaps highly) confusing on Steemit for example that there is
TrendingandPromotedwhile actually both are about promotion, just using different means to get attention.To me it looks like that the whole thing accidentally works somehow just because people are paying bots to promote good things, because who would pay money to promote crap.
Your point is valid, but I don't like that
Trendinghas very little to do with actual content quality. Promoted posts should be simplyPromoted. I am not sure it is a good thing that you will never get intoTrendingwithout paying quite a lot of money yourself. But surely you can pay for a good article, get followers and then depend on them to vote on your stories.On the other hand,
Trendingwill probably never be and never was about content quality so much. In the early days it was enough for a single whale to vote on an article and it got there instantly.But this is a broader issue to think about, how to promote good content, and everybody is thinking about that I guess. A new user can get super frustrated super quickly currently, I can tell you that.
Or perhaps Steem is just mirroring how real world works and there is nothing wrong with it. People with power are using it, people without power can do shit.
You really think vote selling is critical to our economy? I would suggest the contrary. They are what is holding us back.
I think what @mor, @void, and @hr1 are going to show us how much more valuable the user experience could be without so much pervasive paid votes.
Furthermore, while you think bid bots or vote selling to perhaps be an indispensible part of the ecosystem, I know they have been crucial in the proliferation of abuse accounts that continue to plague our chain and ward off mote scrupulous investors and bloggers.
Lastly, these services do a bit more than promotion. If everybody that used them declined rewards, would be for that but thats not what it is. Not by a longshot.
Once monetary incentives become great, the rules of the game always change. Abuse accounts are always going to be with us in one form or another, even the Steemit whitepaper acknowledged that.
I am aware of this. I think the key is making abuse the path of greater resistance to these accounts. We've been working to that end with @steemflagrewards.