I'm a high school Maths teacher and while statistics is my least favorite part of the subject to teach I think it may be the most important.
I try to show how dishonestly presented statistics and probability can be used to fool you and how to look at situations and try to apply strict logical thinking to not get fooled.
A lot of sensational media and most politicians use humans inability to deal with these concepts instinctively against use, I like to think I help a like little to help students see through a lot of the bullshit.
Indeed. I think you will enjoy the book "Fooled by randomness"
Ah, one of my favourite books !
recommended to read it so many times now. and I have not got around to it, unforgivable, I know. will download it now and read it next
Yet another book on my reading list. I think it's very possible for it to skip most of the queue...
Have you heard of the trivium way of explaining things,I've only discovered this recently but found it very helpful to explainand understand certain things.
The trivium is the lower division of the seven liberal arts and comprises grammar, logic, and rhetoric (input, process, and output).[1]
The trivium is implicit in De nuptiis Philologiae et Mercurii ("On the Marriage of Philology and Mercury") by Martianus Capella, but the term was not used until the Carolingian Renaissance, when it was coined in imitation of the earlier quadrivium.[2] Grammar, logic, and rhetoric were essential to a classical education, as explained in Plato's dialogues. The three subjects together were denoted by the word trivium during the Middle Ages, but the tradition of first learning those three subjects was established in ancient Greece. Contemporary iterations have taken various forms, including those found in certain British and American universities (some being part of the Classical education movement) and at the independent Oundle School in the United Kingdom.The trivium is the lower division of the seven liberal arts and comprises grammar, logic, and rhetoric (input, process, and output).[1]
Grammar teaches the mechanics of language to the student. This is the step where the student "comes to terms," defining the objects and information perceived by the five senses. Hence, the Law of Identity: a tree is a tree, and not a cat.
Logic (also dialectic) is the "mechanics" of thought and of analysis, the process of identifying fallacious arguments and statements and so systematically removing contradictions, thereby producing factual knowledge that can be trusted.
Rhetoric is the application of language in order to instruct and to persuade the listener and the reader. It is the knowledge (grammar) now understood (logic) and being transmitted outwards as wisdom (rhetoric). @wikipedia
what does that have to do with anything?
also, it is bullshit. Krnel uses similar nonsene all the time.
Just because it is ancient, doesn't mean it applies.
Truth is a human construct and therefore subjective to interpretation and point of examination.
I like this
so many things are held up to be better just because they are old days.
Dara O'Briain an Irish comedian has a great stand up about old medical remedies
Here it is, it is towards the middle but it is all worth a watch
lol. had a good laugh with this one. nice one.
Great one! :D LOL!
O.k i get the point, have just watched Dara o'Brian giving some good examples. I,m new to all this but have the same problem when talking. Like a lot of people i sometimes say things out loud without really giving it any proper thought.
no need to apologize. We are all students here.
I can't say that came up in my teaching degree, it strikes me as something you hear in a power point presentation, with no real substance. But I will try give it a look.
The trivium is a just a structure of teaching. It does not apply well to luck or randomness.
It is a toolbox for analysing what happened, after it happened.
The most important thing about the trivium is comparing it to modern govern-cement schooling.
If you learn by method of the trivium, you start by reading all of the great works.
Then you are taught how to synthesize, put together the different thoughts.
Then you are taught how to express these thoughts to other is a convincing manner.
As opposed to modern govern-cement schools which start with rhetoric.
Or, they teach you what to think, not how to think.
This is what you call a deepity, just a complex one. It's just something that sounds deep and meaningful, but actually doesn't say much and doesn't have much value. What do rhetoric and grammar have to do with truth? Maybe a bit with teaching it, but not much.
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Yeah read any of John Stossel's books and he will give you inside perspective and real life examples how media uses numbers and statistics to sensationalize issues for views.