Flags stop in both directions
Posts trying to provoke flags stop
Flags for supporters will stop
Flags will continue for racism, if you want to counteract those flagged posts, then that is your prerogative. Doing so will NOT mean restart of flag war. Each should be able to use their stake how they wish after all.
@berniesanders can you please confirm that you agree to these?
I'll do it for you bernie as a sign of good will ... But, please remember, these people won't change their racist ways by being mean to them. It's better to actually have dialogue and try to figure out why they feel that way. Perhaps you'll change their minds like Daryl Davis did with 200 KKK members ...
ftg don't hold your breath. I have never seen a logical argument supported by facts from people like berniesanders, anarchyhasnogods, bloom etc. That's not how bolsheviks roll, they use censorship, character assault, violence and propaganda. They have to because it is not possible to rationally defend bolshevism.
On vaccines, I am a scientist and I shutter at the thought of exposing kids to vaccines. I haven't even tried to explain why because I know the censorship commies will flag it.
Anyway, ftg you were right in this battle. Thanks for standing up to the biggest bully here. steem would be a much better place without people like bs.
@lyndsaybowes I’m publicly asking you to be apart of this. No one is trying to silence you, but can you agree to stop making posts that sole purpose is to provoke him? Please?
Thank you. I’m sorry if I came off harsh at any point, sometimes my passion gets the best of me. Thank you for the open communication, have a great day.
Well I been promoting steemit to many people who have a lot of trust in me. I've been promoting it as a place without censorship. Now I just started to get serious about putting my work down here, because plenty are starting to join me here now I best be involved. About half a dozen in the last week and two more just this morning joined. I have other things organised to promote steemit and specifically artists from steemit on other platforms. But in coming here to receive a FLAG on a post about kindness. Well basically I've lied to everyone and do not feel comfortable to continue doing so. This place seems no better than anything else corrupt corperation/ GUMBYMENT run. I have promoted this place to many other artists under the guise that there stuff will be here forever. Basically I was about to start using it for a whole lot of poetry and many other articles I've written over the years that haven't been seen yet, alongside new stuff I'd like to write. As I am not fond of offers from publishers who want 80% profits of anything that comes from my mind. I'd rather put it here and get payed nothing. Just to have it heard and not ever removed so people always have a chance to learn from it. That's how against the system I am. But since I have been informed that my shit here can be hidden due to flagging. What's the point? Now I could easily comprehend this happening to me if I were some complete arsehole writing shit to be disruptive to the community or lessening the value of content to the place. Thing is I only write to help people and wake them to the reality of what we can do to help ourselves both with oppressive GUMBYMENT systems and in our personal lives. I've done very well promoting unity between all people else where. Now I had no problem ignoring the off topic comment on my post , no problem ignoring the argument that developed. After all this is this Internet and I expect a bunch of dicks to be here. I have no problem with the down vote losing money as it's not why I came here. But to find that I can be hidden for no apparent reason to me other than a bunch of dicks can't get their own shit together. And want to act special. Well it makes me say fuck this shit hole too and I probably should inform the people I've lied to and stop lying to them. Basically fess up and be honest about my experience here tell them I was wrong take the bullet for it , so they are aware of something even I did not see coming. So far I have refrained from this to see where it all goes. But I have promoted steemit as a place where you are judged on your own merits and that's a total fucken lie. Please! Correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't even know what flagged was as I have just been putting things in here not interacting with others and as I'm about to start getting serious here this shit happens. Why would I even bother introducing myself when my intro post is up for flagging. After reading about your truce here. To me one week is not good enough to change my very recent opinion of this place to encounter the same shit down the track. Way to get new people here guys. Well done!
Funniest thing of all about this happeniing to me is the irony of it all. I was flagged someone called beanie complaining about some racism shit that I have no idea of cos I just been doing my own thing in the corner. But by association to only one person i was then targeted. Is that so different from racism? Being targeted and punished treated with no respect at all not taken on my own merits. The post wasn't even read. Branded and tarnished as part of a group for something I know nothing about and have nothing to do with and due to a person I never met from a person I never met.
To be very blunt! It just don't seem fucken right to me. Please explain how this fits into what I thought was suppoesed to be going on here? So I can make an informed decision on what I do next. I actually believed in this site and it's principals what I foolishly felt steemit was supposed to be about. I actually believe that people can rule over themselves but have quickly had my foolish beliefs squashed here. Like real fast way faster than I imagined I would run into controlling oppressive ruling bullshit class. I see round here having a pocket full of money allows you to be able to act without any morality. So I was wrong people can't rule over themselves and live together and work things out without bullshit tactics of this nature. There will always be some fuck without integrity or morals who wants to rule over others and use money to be powerful, over using wits understanding and open conversation. The only way to truly solve a problem is to enlighten the other party to change their ways. Force never works it's why the world is the way it is and why I came here to escape it somewhat. But this has shown me that people are the same everywhere there's always gonna be fucken one in the crowd somewhere and that's all it takes to fuck things for everyone else.
@tony-marshall what you have witnessed here, over the past week, is unlike anything you will see on a centralized social media site. One does not report to a Central Authority and have them act arbitrarily on a user. Here the system gives the ability of the community to decide what is and what is not except-able. This is based upon stake with the idea that the greater the stake one has then the greater the motivation to act for the benefit of the community, as what is good for the community is a benefit to those with greater stake in the community.
In this case we have seen two community members come to loggerheads about what is beneficial. FTG saw free speech to be a greater benefit while Bernie saw removing racist comments the greater benefit.
That is all well and fine... where it went off the rails is when innocents like yourself were caught in the crossfire. It is my personal opinion that Bernie dropped the ball in that regard, yet with his lesser stake it was probably a strategy to level the playing field on his part... though, again in my opinion, that did not justify it.
What was exciting to me was to see the community flock to this issue. It was a large motivation (as well as the rock bottom investment price to be honest) to buy my recent Dolphinhood at the cost of about about .5 BTC. It is comparable to buying a couple thousand dollars of FB Stock because one believed in Zuck's platform. The difference is, which this experience has shown, is that we all own this platform; you, me, FTG, Bernie or anyone who holds a stake.
Even families have disagreements. The wonderful thing is that this has run its course and has been worked out among ourselves without the need of any Central Authority. If you think you can find such a platform elsewhere then please let me know as it will also have my support.
Seems all political to me and like any politician when they fuck the people over they have nothing to say for themselves. Not a good idea to drive people away that can actually bring some good content here adding value making the place worth something to these people with all the money. Pigheaded people like to shoot themselves in the foot, cut off their nose to spite their face so to speak. I will not bow to anyone with bullshit tactics like this. Nor will I be happy to see it happen to others I bring here with me. There is nothing fair about it and he's done worse than just drop the ball. That's an accident, this was intentional. I came here to do my own thing not be told who I can and can't ascociate with by someone I have no clue who they are and nor do I care who they are. I stand for the people against all oppressive systems. Im glad some people did well out of this. Good luck to them. I've said my peace and going to leave it at that, hopefully I don't encounter this type of bullshit again. Peace out ️brother.
He’s serious.
So here is the deal;
Flags stop in both directions
Posts trying to provoke flags stop
Flags for supporters will stop
Flags will continue for racism, if you want to counteract those flagged posts, then that is your prerogative. Doing so will NOT mean restart of flag war. Each should be able to use their stake how they wish after all.
@berniesanders can you please confirm that you agree to these?
Yes
I appreciate the truce. I have already modified the fulltimebots accordingly.
Do the right thing and stop upvoting that hateful racist as well. Not part of the truce, but we don’t need that shit around here.
I'll do it for you bernie as a sign of good will ... But, please remember, these people won't change their racist ways by being mean to them. It's better to actually have dialogue and try to figure out why they feel that way. Perhaps you'll change their minds like Daryl Davis did with 200 KKK members ...
ftg don't hold your breath. I have never seen a logical argument supported by facts from people like berniesanders, anarchyhasnogods, bloom etc. That's not how bolsheviks roll, they use censorship, character assault, violence and propaganda. They have to because it is not possible to rationally defend bolshevism.
On vaccines, I am a scientist and I shutter at the thought of exposing kids to vaccines. I haven't even tried to explain why because I know the censorship commies will flag it.
Anyway, ftg you were right in this battle. Thanks for standing up to the biggest bully here. steem would be a much better place without people like bs.
As long as we can still laugh XD
I thank you both...
@fulltimegeek is this reasonable to you? Anything you would like to add or clarify?
It's reasonable. I accept.
@lyndsaybowes I’m publicly asking you to be apart of this. No one is trying to silence you, but can you agree to stop making posts that sole purpose is to provoke him? Please?
Everything action I have taken,
Has been a reaction to one of his, against myself, and my #steemfam.
So, yes, of course I'll stop.
Thank you. I’m sorry if I came off harsh at any point, sometimes my passion gets the best of me. Thank you for the open communication, have a great day.
Well I been promoting steemit to many people who have a lot of trust in me. I've been promoting it as a place without censorship. Now I just started to get serious about putting my work down here, because plenty are starting to join me here now I best be involved. About half a dozen in the last week and two more just this morning joined. I have other things organised to promote steemit and specifically artists from steemit on other platforms. But in coming here to receive a FLAG on a post about kindness. Well basically I've lied to everyone and do not feel comfortable to continue doing so. This place seems no better than anything else corrupt corperation/ GUMBYMENT run. I have promoted this place to many other artists under the guise that there stuff will be here forever. Basically I was about to start using it for a whole lot of poetry and many other articles I've written over the years that haven't been seen yet, alongside new stuff I'd like to write. As I am not fond of offers from publishers who want 80% profits of anything that comes from my mind. I'd rather put it here and get payed nothing. Just to have it heard and not ever removed so people always have a chance to learn from it. That's how against the system I am. But since I have been informed that my shit here can be hidden due to flagging. What's the point? Now I could easily comprehend this happening to me if I were some complete arsehole writing shit to be disruptive to the community or lessening the value of content to the place. Thing is I only write to help people and wake them to the reality of what we can do to help ourselves both with oppressive GUMBYMENT systems and in our personal lives. I've done very well promoting unity between all people else where. Now I had no problem ignoring the off topic comment on my post , no problem ignoring the argument that developed. After all this is this Internet and I expect a bunch of dicks to be here. I have no problem with the down vote losing money as it's not why I came here. But to find that I can be hidden for no apparent reason to me other than a bunch of dicks can't get their own shit together. And want to act special. Well it makes me say fuck this shit hole too and I probably should inform the people I've lied to and stop lying to them. Basically fess up and be honest about my experience here tell them I was wrong take the bullet for it , so they are aware of something even I did not see coming. So far I have refrained from this to see where it all goes. But I have promoted steemit as a place where you are judged on your own merits and that's a total fucken lie. Please! Correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't even know what flagged was as I have just been putting things in here not interacting with others and as I'm about to start getting serious here this shit happens. Why would I even bother introducing myself when my intro post is up for flagging. After reading about your truce here. To me one week is not good enough to change my very recent opinion of this place to encounter the same shit down the track. Way to get new people here guys. Well done!
Funniest thing of all about this happeniing to me is the irony of it all. I was flagged someone called beanie complaining about some racism shit that I have no idea of cos I just been doing my own thing in the corner. But by association to only one person i was then targeted. Is that so different from racism? Being targeted and punished treated with no respect at all not taken on my own merits. The post wasn't even read. Branded and tarnished as part of a group for something I know nothing about and have nothing to do with and due to a person I never met from a person I never met.
To be very blunt! It just don't seem fucken right to me. Please explain how this fits into what I thought was suppoesed to be going on here? So I can make an informed decision on what I do next. I actually believed in this site and it's principals what I foolishly felt steemit was supposed to be about. I actually believe that people can rule over themselves but have quickly had my foolish beliefs squashed here. Like real fast way faster than I imagined I would run into controlling oppressive ruling bullshit class. I see round here having a pocket full of money allows you to be able to act without any morality. So I was wrong people can't rule over themselves and live together and work things out without bullshit tactics of this nature. There will always be some fuck without integrity or morals who wants to rule over others and use money to be powerful, over using wits understanding and open conversation. The only way to truly solve a problem is to enlighten the other party to change their ways. Force never works it's why the world is the way it is and why I came here to escape it somewhat. But this has shown me that people are the same everywhere there's always gonna be fucken one in the crowd somewhere and that's all it takes to fuck things for everyone else.
@tony-marshall what you have witnessed here, over the past week, is unlike anything you will see on a centralized social media site. One does not report to a Central Authority and have them act arbitrarily on a user. Here the system gives the ability of the community to decide what is and what is not except-able. This is based upon stake with the idea that the greater the stake one has then the greater the motivation to act for the benefit of the community, as what is good for the community is a benefit to those with greater stake in the community.
In this case we have seen two community members come to loggerheads about what is beneficial. FTG saw free speech to be a greater benefit while Bernie saw removing racist comments the greater benefit.
That is all well and fine... where it went off the rails is when innocents like yourself were caught in the crossfire. It is my personal opinion that Bernie dropped the ball in that regard, yet with his lesser stake it was probably a strategy to level the playing field on his part... though, again in my opinion, that did not justify it.
What was exciting to me was to see the community flock to this issue. It was a large motivation (as well as the rock bottom investment price to be honest) to buy my recent Dolphinhood at the cost of about about .5 BTC. It is comparable to buying a couple thousand dollars of FB Stock because one believed in Zuck's platform. The difference is, which this experience has shown, is that we all own this platform; you, me, FTG, Bernie or anyone who holds a stake.
Even families have disagreements. The wonderful thing is that this has run its course and has been worked out among ourselves without the need of any Central Authority. If you think you can find such a platform elsewhere then please let me know as it will also have my support.
STEEM On!
Seems all political to me and like any politician when they fuck the people over they have nothing to say for themselves. Not a good idea to drive people away that can actually bring some good content here adding value making the place worth something to these people with all the money. Pigheaded people like to shoot themselves in the foot, cut off their nose to spite their face so to speak. I will not bow to anyone with bullshit tactics like this. Nor will I be happy to see it happen to others I bring here with me. There is nothing fair about it and he's done worse than just drop the ball. That's an accident, this was intentional. I came here to do my own thing not be told who I can and can't ascociate with by someone I have no clue who they are and nor do I care who they are. I stand for the people against all oppressive systems. Im glad some people did well out of this. Good luck to them. I've said my peace and going to leave it at that, hopefully I don't encounter this type of bullshit again. Peace out ️brother.