Thank you for chiming in @acidyo. I am absolutely unqualified to try and mediate things like this as a newbie still learning terms like "whale" and "minnow." I should probably just stick to producing good content for Steem, but @broncnutz is the first real account to give me a downvote. I felt out of respect, I should at least look into it. I'm not trying to waste anyone's time. I'm informed enough to know about circle voting, etc.
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If your still new, I would be careful with downvote trails. They are a petty power tool!
If you see something that offends you, sure downvote it...
But if you have your own brain, why do you need to give someone else your power, to decide what is good content?
Downvote trails just encourage retaliation style behaviour as being shown now
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well said and exactly my point. if acidyo and ocd dont stop this centralized madness i will be forced to start down voting people who have deligated steem power to them. I have no issues with a flag, they are needed in many cases, i have issues with weak people who let others make decisions for them.
< i will be forced to start down voting people who have deligated steem power to them
This I would like to see. You don't have that much steem power dude. Best not bite off more than you can chew.
well looks like we gonna find out.
This.
I totally agree @philippekiene. I think downvote trails could easily be misused. I only join downvote trails of trusted curators. I would the same reason applies as why I delegate SP to curated by communities.
I realize I’m a newbie and my time is limited on Steem due to work constraints. I don’t want to waste my SP, and want to see it benefit the Steemosphere. I trust communities like ReggaeSteem, NaturalMedicine, EcoTrain and others to curate good content with my SP. I check their curation collections often and I find good posts are the ones rewarded.
I wish I had time to sift through all the sh%t posts to find some good reading material, but it takes way too long. I defer to checking out OCD or Curie curation collections, and I am instantly provided with good content curated by a real human.
It’s a huge timesaver if nothing more. I’m not terribly interested in crypto too, and curation guilds weed those posts out so I can find a good recipe or a nice travel post.
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I agree 100 percent. Well said.
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if your not informed enough you should opt out of "circle jerk downvoting" as well. Acidyo created OCD and then uses it to upvote himself and his friends. Is that not circle jerking? You continue to down vote me for no reason and i will downvote your posts until you stop...its just that simple. I never wanted to down vote you ini the first place, and i hope i never have to do it again. Acid gets off on being a dictator, he used to get beat up in high school.
Well @broncnutz, when I first got on Steem and started posting, all the posts I were getting advice from were a year or two old. So this led me to believe the whole Steem ecosystem is one big circle jerk, and good content will get me nowhere, with bots and veteran accounts controlling the scene.
Not long after my Steem journey began, the #newsteem came, and manual curation too. The way the new voting curve works we are incentivized to do more manual curation, which is what I do now. I now try to carefully place some 100% upvotes here and there on content I like.
My account has organically grown quite fast without me joining any circle-jerks, and it seems to have come from producing just good ole' good content. There was a learning curve at first, but now I'm somewhat comfortable on Steem.
There are some really dedicated Steemians and curators on here doing a lot more to help this platform than I will ever be able to. I wouldn't dare join a downvote trail of an untrusted Steemian. @acidyo and @ocd have solid reputations on Steem through and through.
there are many here who do not agree with your statement that @acidyo has a solid reputation here. I respect your opinion sir but if you continue to down vote my posts because your trailing OCD votes and cant think for yourself.....expect me hard and heavy....FOREVER. Change your strategy or we just continue on and let the chips fall where they may. I do however respect your opinion on OCD and acidyo. If you do not like my content and downvote it i am fine with it, if you let acidyo and ocd decide for you, ill hit back. its simple really.
Ignore the angry man, Justin. I upvoted the post which negates the vindictive downvote this lovely human being cast. Don’t let others bully you.. just ignore him. There is plenty of stake to counter the misuse of downvotes from those who think the inflation is their personal tip jar they can allocate to themselves. There is no reasoning with them, just ignore and keeping doing what you are doing.
Thanks @justineh, I am liking the #newsteem, and for sure all of the curators which I delegate to don’t always upvote or curate my posts. It’s far from a circle jerk.
Especially considering the way many curators distribute upvotes, it’d be impossible to for them to circle jerk. Often only 10 upvotes per day are distributed by some curators, and yet they have hundreds and hundreds of posts to choose from. I am lucky to receive a curation visit here and there considering how little I have contributed to Steem.
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Well said. Keep up the good fight.
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lol, typical ignorant rant from an abuser who can't get his cookies anymore. :)
Lol, typical response to a Steemit dictator who believes this place should be centralized and voting should be done his way.
"Steemit dictator" bro xD
And you believe voting should be trading votes with same size accounts that don't even share the same content with each other, huh? :)
Seems hard to grasp that earning on Steem through post rewards is exactly that, it should be earned. Not being in hot and trending no matter the content just because your stake is big and you scratch the backs of others with the same stake. What makes you think you should earn more than others who are participating in honest curation and distribution that helps the platform while all you care is your ROI on Steem where you nullify the efforts of others who don't vote-trade.
On top of that you go out of your way to downvote small stake accounts that are trailing their votes on @curangel which is curating and downvoting vote-trades which makes their curation more effective. And you call me a dictator, seriously fuck off mate.
curangel is just a drone in this game, there is no logic because the same people vote for the same people, voting principles are not fulfilled in practice.
These are just lobby group games and the idea of a downvote as a business model is a pure failure. Come up with creative ideas, come up with projects that will raise Steem value. Look at the big accounts being voted on by the same people, posts that lack quality (some have) get support because they are members of the same lobby.
You bring your brother or son to invest and then you say don't vote for him, so who should I vote for. Not all people get likes on social networks but those we like. When I'm not voting for myself I have downvotes, when I'm giving over 70% to others again it's not good - no this is pure manipulation that will ruin Steem.
What the fuck are you talking about? we stand to gain nothing from downvoting abusers and milkers except for wasting endless time on shit like this and getting downvotes back. Go cry to haejin about your shit getting downvoted instead of sharing your stake with other people and participating in honest curation.
There's nothing wrong by voting on family members or friends but doing it constantly with most stake regardless of content is not what the rewardpool is there for hence downvote mana was introduced.
Anyway, I really don't have time to reply to your justifications and delusions. Some people here are trying to do exactly what you claim we should be doing; creating projects and initiatives to bring in new users and raise the utility of Steem than just circlejerking rewards onto each other while the value just continues to drop and no one even knows about Steem.
That and I say, nothing gets off the downvote, no one earns. The circle of voters remains the same as if they were the subjects of the stronger players and the essence does not change. Most of the posts are without substance, no one should say anything because free thought is being punished, and everyone is talking about a bright future. Then whales do not need to post, they should only vote for unknown users.
I am determined by the rules for who to vote for, I am more for someone who writes about religion and spirituality than for some empty stories of walking along the coast and getting $ 30 for it. These people give me the disadvantages as if they were big bloggers, this is a business and a democratic society, let the idea, the project, the creative solution, not the judgment of the lobby group, win. Some people do the right things and I will gladly support it, but I will never support negative campaigns and destructive solutions.
It all turned into gossip, hatred, threats and a poor choice of words. Is the point that we all lose both money and credibility !!! The downvote is certainly not the right solution, changing voting rules, suspending Steem printing, creating a Steem platform for tokens, marketing campaigns to attract companies, etc.
I have never had anything against the personality, I have against the monopoly that lies behind the story of a new democracy, this is not the French Revolution, we should all be constructive and positive.
i don't trade votes with the same sized accounts. (only one is bigger than me) and i manually curate everything else. I only trade votes with people i consider to have good content. You are a steem dictator and i'm gonna keep doing my part to stop you. I will keep down voting any minnow who hands thier voting rights over to you, OCD, Curangel and any other centralized acct. Fuck off yourself. We can continue this forever, i got plenty of crypto to fight you with and i'll never stop. Buckle up, im betting this is gonna get worse than the hatfields and mccoys between me and you. Someday you will get a chance to meet me in person at Steemfest or Anachapulco or some crypto event and i'm gonna give you a chance to tell me to fuck off to my face which i already know your too big of a keyboard pussy to do. If your stupid enough to even open your mouth to me like that (and i know you wont be)..... i'll get all my downvotes back from you with once punch to your little nerd face. Enjoy your teeth....for now.
Hahahah man you should do comedy posts instead, they'd garner more natural votes than your fanboyism of that handball shit you watch. Watch out for your blood pressure there :3
My bloodpressure is very low, as a matter of fact i headed to the stadium right now to watch a football game while your at your moms house in the basement eating ramen noodles. The only blood pressure that's gonna rise is yours when you finally meet me in person. It's a small world, its bound to happen. Just be ready and don't cry or say i didn't warn you. Shits gonna get real when you meet me in person...believe and trust in that.
Threats/promises of violence. Nice. Spoken like a real anarchist.
Curangel is as decentralized as it gets btw. All decisions are done by all delegators and curators. Your stake is centralized with yourself, and you'd never give up on the power it gives you. You love it too much, finally you can be someone!
Thank you for spending all day on my blog..i know you cant help it. its fun for everyone here to watch you dance like little puppets.
Technically, he only threatened to punch him, if he came at him 'like that' in real life.
I do not think he would give you a fight like the Hatfields (or McCoys - whichever one you want to be (?)).
I also think they could fuck off, though.