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I love that users from multiple languages are here... but like many other users have written it does make it very difficult to use the forum when all languages are in one place making it somewhat of a mess.

The easiest and perhaps best answer is in adding a language tag to each post (in metadata)... and to facilitate that perhaps a setting per user so the tag is always that language.

Then filter by the language you have selected as well.

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Yeah i don't see a problem with any of that really. They can choose per comment... a default just means what their defaulted choice would be to save them time and effort and make it easy.
And why would someone mark it as wrong language? If it doesn't have words then why mark it as a langauge at all?... select none. These are strawmen problems that aren't really problems at all in my opinion.
And when someone is viewing why force them into one language... couldn't you just say ALL? It's just a simple filter.

The alternative is to have a completely Korean forum because that's what General almost is right now.

Maybe there's more of a deeper issue that you haven't expressed?

p.s. how come my images don't work in the original post?


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How would one handle a topic with multiple languages?

When you post in an english topic, should it lock all responses to english?

If someone quotes a spanish comment and answers in english, how do you deal with that? Do you hide parts of the conversation?

A default is a good idea, that could save users time. But what if someone uses the default english tag but writes in korean?

These are all questions that sound like strawmans but in an implementation you have to find solutions to them. And a solution can be "we don't care about that". But I want to make conscious choices on all these details before I plan an implementation.


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My biggest worry with this approach would be making it simple enough for the user. WHat if someone speaks multiple languages? Do they have to select a fitting language for each comment they write? And what if the interface hides important information (say images) because someone accidentally marked it as the wrong language?

I think the idea sounds good in theory but would need to be fleshed out for it to work in reality.


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Yeah i don't see a problem with any of that really. They can choose per comment... a default just means what their defaulted choice would be to save them time and effort and make it easy.
And why would someone mark it as wrong language? If it doesn't have words then why mark it as a langauge at all?... select none. These are strawmen problems that aren't really problems at all in my opinion.
And when someone is viewing why force them into one language... couldn't you just say ALL? It's just a simple filter.

The alternative is to have a completely Korean forum because that's what General almost is right now.

Maybe there's more of a deeper issue that you haven't expressed?

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User @flauwy wrote at 30.05.2019 06:31:43 UTC:

User @kimjaguar wrote at 30.05.2019 04:36:42 UTC:

I agree with Jarvie's proposition. By the way, I cannot see your images. I can only see 'image.png' thing.

Image upload is not yet included in this forum and people unsuccessfully drop their images into the editor. It only spits out an empty image tag.

I plan on including an image uploader today, just need to hash out a few things regarding image storage.


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I think it would be better to have the main forum English and then have a section dedicated to other languages.

Layout would be:

Main Forum (English)
Forum Section (Other Languages)
Sub-forum:French
Sub-forum:Spanish
Sub-forum: XXXX

The above is one of the more succesful ways I seen it done on other forums I been apart of in one form or another.


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Fair points. I didn't really consider multiple languages on the same topic so i didn't see it as an issue.

Because... Langauge just on posts... which i'm guessing you guys call forum threads?

Aka don't even have a tag for comments. Generally speaking people that write a post in a language are expecting that same langauge as a response. To account for violations of that practice I don't think is your need to work on. That handles 1,2,3,5

As for paragraph 4 ... why would you need to handle when someone does this? I guess the answer is... allow them to change the language tag.

Much of this stuff you kind of just have to let the community handle... "Hey i noticed you wrote a post in Chinese however you tagged it English... here's how you change it. Thanks."


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Which also suffers from a language issue.
image.pngSo coming back to this @aggroed and @yabapmatt and team could use this same technique to help with languages on the condensor running splintertalk.io

Similarly steempeak is completely willing to run interface for ScotBot posts and is very willing to do the same thing... so thus coordination and decentralization of nice system.


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I think Jarvie's idea is great and offers a solution with a whole new approach. What are further benefits of doing this upon post creation?


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I agree with Jarvie's proposition. By the way, I cannot see your images. I can only see 'image.png' thing.


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User @kimjaguar wrote at 30.05.2019 04:36:42 UTC:

I agree with Jarvie's proposition. By the way, I cannot see your images. I can only see 'image.png' thing.

Image upload is not yet included in this forum and people unsuccessfully drop their images into the editor. It only spits out an empty image tag.


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