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RE: Announcing the Forthcoming Open Sourcing of UA, Free Accounts Give-Away, Unregistered UA Score & Rank Checking on steem-ua.com

in #ua6 years ago (edited)

I appreciate your response, we just view at things differently.

I look at Trust and Relationships as the main currency.

Putting $4 from the reward pool and giving it to one of the best content creators on Steem I don't see as a waste. For all I know you should have 10% of the daily reward pool. From my point of view I'm making an investment in a Stake holder with integrity. I believe in lavish splash of value as well

And I'm sorry if you didn't appreciate my boost. It was really meant as an act of love XD Won't happen again

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Because of the awkward position it put me in, knowing the community in general frowns upon people purchasing their way to the top of comment sections, I'd like to suggest the next time you do that for someone, make it clear you purchased the vote. Clear their name. Don't make people dig for the truth, because they won't. Not many will vote after seeing bot votes on a comment. If this was an insanely popular post, you may have cost me potential profits. Feel free to be stuck inside your own head but I suggest you look around and at least acknowledge how some others feel about certain actions.

If I didn't notice, and if I wake up tomorrow, sign in and see my comment got flagged, I would have been more pissed off than you probably think I am now and those flags would have been your fault.

Do I look like a man of integrity if I'm ranked 344 and use bots on comments? Are you trying to sabotage my reputation while thinking a few dollars would be enough for me to let it slide? You put me in a position where I had to make it damn clear to everyone I had nothing to do with that shitty bot vote.

Think about what I told you the other day. The man who rents a nice car and suit so he can pretend to be a hotshot for the weekend vs the man who owns the nice car and suit with nothing to prove to anyone. The fake vs the real deal. I have nothing to prove. People who use bots with the hopes their opinion will sound more important or the hopes their work will look better; those people are fake as fuck and I don't care who disagrees with me and for what reason.

The interesting thing is I arrive at the same general choice of action from a completely different vector. I (almost always) won't use my borrowed VP or vote bots to push my comments to the top because

  1. I generally don't feel convinced it is worthy of being placed so highly. If I did, I wouldn't hesitate to boost it. (I find the "power up enough STEEM to vote to that amount" argument quite spurious. There's a big difference between a small one-time payment and a huge 13-week long vesting commitment. Besides, when you pay a bot you are rewarding a large investor for vesting their STEEM in the first place, not "stealing from" the rewards pool.) How does the myth of organic value persist on STEEM? It has been mostly pay-to-win here ever since I've been here. The problem with expecting people (whales) to be philanthropic is that most humans are still operating at the level of basic survivalistic fear. The idea of a gift economy still makes no sense to most. We have to come to humanity's level to build a system that works for the present but extrapolates to the future. / end digression

  2. The promotional benefits of being at the top of a comment section are usually outweighed by the negatives of being too much in the spotlight.

  3. The entire senseless, guilt-tripping, pitchfork-wielding masses who insist on hypermoralization of what is essentially just neutral algorithms.

It doesn't matter.

Let's say the reward pool is worth one million (it's currently very close to that number currently). Votes are sold and the buyer is to be content with 10% potential profit. How much is the actual reward pool worth now to the majority? That's right. 100k. I see people complaining about a potential 50/50 share of post rewards, but they're content with a 10% cut of the entire reward pool. That's how backwards this place has become and a lot of people have the nerve around here to defend that as well as give financial advice. Governments don't even take 90%....

Anyway. I don't have time for this discussion today. I realize the issues I have fly over most heads here anyway.

That's right. 100k. I see people complaining about a potential 50/50 share of post rewards, but they're content with a 10% cut of the entire reward pool.

I wouldn't say they're necessarily content with it so much as either 1.) unaware 2.) don't know of an easily implementable solution to prevent the automation/selling of votes.

And some explicitly like the way things are now, you're right.

Anyway. I don't have time for this discussion today.

Yep. No problem, I never expect people to reply unless you specifically want to or have the time. These discussions tend to be quite circular anyway, though the optimist in me wants to believe we are getting somewhere by continuously contemplating them.

I realize the issues I have fly over most heads here anyway.

Or, they have a different vision of what will produce economic prosperity. Though, I will withhold any specific judgements currently as I've not read any of your proposals to improve STEEM.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@nonameslefttouse/turning-rage-into-the-soothing-steem-now-blowing-out-my-butt-as-i-mince-my-words-for-you-the-reader-of-this. Power through that, the included links, the comment sections. It's a deep rabbit hole. I've been yelling at the clouds for nearly a year.

I don't hold that same view. I think most are fine with upvotes. I think you take things way too serious. I don't think this place will thrive with dead seriousness about every single action happening. I don't agree with that view of being mega serious about every single thing.

You are trying to find a conspiracy in just a small loving action I tried to do. I love your work and personality but this is just too much. I love your Logic but using Logic to analyse a human with a heart and soul is the wrong tool. The Intellect is a cutting tool. If you use the Intellect on a Flower you will just have a bunch of pieces. Not a flower anymore.

I have people doing huge loving actions to me. I could go and try to analyze it all and probably find all kinds of stuff. But it's waste of time we are just humans trying to do our best. We need more love and understanding on this planet! We have Give and Receive on this planet. We need both! So we can build a better world together! 🌎❤️

Okay can the guilt trip. I tried my best to explain this to you. You're telling the guy who can't go a day here without writing stupid jokes that I take things too seriously. Obviously, instead of attempting to at least focus on what I'm trying to say, you'd sooner make me out to look like a fucking moron.

All this peace and understanding shit and you're not even willing to acknowledge the real world around you.

You're wasting my time.

This is ridiculous. It wasn't even two days ago I explained to you exactly how I feel about people buying their way up to the top. Two days later, what do you do? You go ahead, ignore everything I tried to tell you about how I personally feel about it, stab me in the back, and push my dumb joke to the top here. So now, at this point, the joke isn't at the top because it's funny, it's at the top because someone decided to put it there. That takes all of the meaning away from the joke. The joke is now pointless. The artform is dead. Entertainment value shot. My comment can no longer move up the ranks and become more popular as times passes, naturally. It's already there, can't go no further. You took a joke about being arrogant and turned it into looking like actual arrogance. Humor is all about the delivery. That joke is funnier way down at the bottom. At least down there, the irony still works.

Then you come at me with this being helpful peaceful and understanding shit all while making it crystal clear you have no intention of ever understanding another perspective that is not your own.

I will not be wasting my time speaking to you in the future. Two days ago I clearly wasted time now that I see your actions speaking louder than your words. Let me guess, you see it differently so therefore I don't have a problem? Right? Anything I say, no matter how many different approaches I take in explaining my perspective to you, my perspective does not exist because you see it differently and just can't seem to figure out what the issue is because of intentional ignorance. You've frustrated me beyond repair today. I'm done.