i disagree that the settlers were more civilised, the tribes had access to clean water, fresh air, animals in abundance for hunting, rivers full of fish no obligations to a feudal lord etc...the tribes existed in balance with nature for 12000 years. Then came the settlers that thought they could improve on what the tribes had...Now look at how things have turned out, poisoned air, dirty polluted water, contaminated land and empty fenced plains and poisoned rivers...all within a couple of hundred years....I agree that the tribes require help, however i disagree that they should turn to the government for that help. that would be like asking your jailer for a day out....and to be happy for it..... The best way to help the tribes in my opinion, would be for the government/crown to pack their bags and leave and compensate the tribes so that they can clean up the mess.
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Well, my friend we can not turn the clock back. A lot of water has been passed under the bridge since then. What we can do is to make present beautiful and future secure.
Any one who doesn't cope with the changing circumstances perish. Its the law of nature no one can deny. You adept, you make change, you progress, you develop; you survive other wise you are no more on the competing forces of nature.
For generations the natives faced isolation of the developed world. When they were made contact they refused to change and cope with the modern world; most of them vanished.
The remaining can only survive if they can re-conciliate what is in hand. I am not saying that they should surrender but at least they should demand their rights within the treaties and constitution of the country.
I agree with you opinion that the settlers had polluted much of the natural environment and that should not have been taken place. But I politely disagree with your opinion that they were more civilized than the settlers because the natives had their own issues. They had their own fighting among tribes. They didn't know the advance ways of living, cultivating, ranging, ranching, farming etc.
The modern easy ways, like we are talking thousands of miles away, have taken the price in their own way. I respect your opinion.
Actually the native Americans taught the settlers how to farm their land. https://modernfarmer.com/2016/11/pilgrims-no-idea-farm-luckily-native-americans/
Yes there was fighting among tribes, but the whites have also been warring since time began and continued to inflict it on their arrival in America.
I appreciate your sharing of knowledge and good research. But despite their sound knowledge of farming they were outnumbered by the people carrying "guns, germs and steel." Please have a look at book of "Jared Diamond" or documentary by National Geographic Society if you have not already read or watched.
Does the carrying of guns, germs and steel make the invaders more civilised?
I am very much aware of what occurred historically, and still occurs in many ways. I was merely pointing out that the native Americans were also capable what we call civilised activities. I feel we run a risk of downgrading others races and cultures if we don't acknowledge we all have both faults and greatness. We could all do with being a bit humble in order to accept that our ways are not the only ways.
Well, my friend I appreciate your balanced approach. I like to add that "guns, germs and steel" wasn't about civilized or uncivilized. I thought to share a good research for your knowledge.
Neither I called anyone uncivilized nor tried to downgrade anyone's culture. I only said "more civilized" in the sense that they didn't know ADVANCED ways of the modern world. I used it in a broader sense.
In history hundreds of civilizations perished and new one emerged in a particular time at a particular place. My humble opinion was only to highlight that by not accepting change societies (be that any) perish.
Very true, nothing is permanent and many advanced civilizations have perished, but people continue after their fall. It makes you wonder, is it the ideal of civilisation that cannot be sustained? Many tribes deep in the rainforests have lived that way for hundreds of generations.
Anyway, I digress now. Thank you for a thought provoking conversation.
I like your heartfelt feelings and healthy thoughts about nature. It was my pleasure to know about your good positive mind. Thank you for your valuable time:)
I think I have the same opinion that we should try to compensate the loss and stop worrying about the past time. We should look into future and do good to them in present so that they can get maximum benefit from their ancestors' land.