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RE: Debate Forum - Week 9 - Legitimacy of Government

in #ungrip7 years ago

I'm not sure how this fits in with the legitimacy of government. Are you saying that because people by nature are violent we need governments for protection and safety? Until we get our tribes re-established the safety is in jeopardy because it is within our nature to be violent?

So would that then suggest that if we work on our tribes and strengthen our communities so that the bullies can no longer intimidate or threaten, then we could let go of the state?

Do you feel people are prepared to make such a transition and if not, would that not continue the legitimacy of the state that we are talking about? If so, how do you see that transition unfolding then if people are too afraid to 'let go' of the state in order to give peace and prosperity a try? After all, the state is doing everything it can to ensure dependency on it and discourage any efforts for independence and freedom. How do we counter those types of actions if safety is the primary concern?

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yes, I believe some people 'think' that we need protection from each other, probably due to media coverage of constant destruction and killing, one of the reasons I don't watch or read the news anymore. I am not sure if this is the truth, but it is what we have been brainwashed to believe. So we legitimise the governments by allowing them to 'protect' us. I hate conflict and I am easily intimidated and when the riots and looting broke out in the UK a few years ago, I was terrified and stayed indoors the whole time, waiting for the govornment and the police to get on top of the situation. Without a govorning body, I think people like myself would be too scared to function properly in times like that, so yes, tribes would need to be established and communities developed before completely removing the government for people to feel safe.

If there were such things in place, I believe people would be happy to let go of the governments because they do so much damage and are making decisions that can ruin lives, but I truly believe that safety is an important aspect of why society continues to legitimise the government, whether this is reality or just a fearmongering response to another form of control.