Great article, thanks for sharing! I'd like to mention another aspect. If you buy upvotes from an upvote bot, it also increases your reputation level, which is a really bad thing for the system in my opinion, because that number should actually give other users an impression about the quality of your content and not about how much money you have already invested in upvote bots.
I really don't know... The solution in my opinion will be a conglomerate of individual changes as well as updates to the to the system's infrastructure. I myself just came to the same realization with the up Bots as I have not made nearly what any of them say I should and breaking even has been about the best outcome. As long as there is power out there, power will always do what it has to do to maintain itself. That is the biggest problem. While not all whales are acting like sharks, there's definitely some that are and that's where independent changes need to be implemented by us individually. We need to change who we follow who we give our power to and how we treat the system that has given us so much. I recently started cleaning up my follow list. To be honest I feel a little bit grimey doing this but it seems to me to be the only solution, I've started unfollowing anybody who doesn't have a high-value account in an attempt to make mine grow. While there is a lot of good material being left in the dust my justification is that once I do grow and get to where I want to be I will give back by following and boosting those individuals. It is a very difficult situation on our hands and I don't know the answer but I think if we continue to keep this dialogue open in a democratic way we can make change. Thank you for your article.
Probably, I am doing something wrong. But so far I somehow always ended up with by far less as actual reward payout for my upvote bot treated posts than the number below the article claimed it to be.
You are not doing anything wrong but it's the actual fact.
I've tried almost all of those upvote bots but none of them gave profit...Now I have almost stopped using them, I prefer to buy steem and power up with the SBDs rather than giving it to upvote bots.
Probably, I am doing something wrong. But so far I somehow always ended up with by far less as actual reward payout for my upvote bot treated posts than the number below the article claimed it to be.
I have the same experience, can you smell it... :)
:)
I´d never used and will never use voting-bots! For me it is ridiculous. The people think they are good, but they have to pay to seem it. Wow, so much different to the World outside of steemit :)
Thanks for sharing your opinion. As I mentioned in my comment reply, I prefer people think about long-term value and be an owner, not a renter. I like how @minnowbooster shares profits with token holders via the @buildteam token. I like that team and I can see the value for those who want to purchase immediate influence, but long term, I hope people will choose to increase their influence via obtaining more Steem Power.
Ahahahahahahahhahaa yeah, I know, I've seen this multiple times before. PeopleString did the exact same thing and then network marketers came in trying to promote various affiliate programs and clogged the system with spam and made the system garbage and it just went poof.
The same thing I've seen in the past with other companies is happening to Steemit. There is a way to fix it though, and that's basically to require "Proof of Brain" in the strictest sense possible. Owner of a bot? Lost all your SBD and your accounts. You have to make it so it's a fear to use a bot at all.
I'll admit I looked into the bots, decided not to use them. They're not mathematically feasible, unless, of course, you actually own said bot in question, in which case you have every incentive to use it because people are quite stupid.
Great article, loads of info, magazine feature caliber story for steemit platform. Great work, keep it up. Ha, yeah and they carry virtually no investment value, they are so overbid right now. There are a lot of people jumping at them, they have become yesterday's news on steemit, which shocks the hell out of me being on here only three months I didn't realize their value has no where near keeping up the demand.
It's absolutely ridiculous that the issue of upvote bots and site exposure hasn't been addressed properly.
Instead of trying to fix the problem we programmers are stuck in the old ways of simply trying to abuse the system.
It's like a professional athlete that does performance enhancing drugs: "Everyone else does it so I have to do it to stay competitive."
No... no you don't. The programmers on this chain need to remove head from ass and program ways to find the real content. Wade through the shit and find those candy sprinkles.
You're using minnowbooster. You're paying for upvotes to make it look like your content is better than it is. You're part of the problem.
Obviously, the whales drowning out your content with their massive payouts is a bigger problem. Fixing a problem with another problem seems to be how people operate around here.
I have been feeling the same lately. I think I may have used them for the last time yesterday. The thing that gets me is that it increases the wealth gap like you said. Plus the numbers just never add up in my favor.
Great article, thanks for sharing! I'd like to mention another aspect. If you buy upvotes from an upvote bot, it also increases your reputation level, which is a really bad thing for the system in my opinion, because that number should actually give other users an impression about the quality of your content and not about how much money you have already invested in upvote bots.
Great article thank you! I have been struggling with this as well and your article has made sense of nonsense for me.
I really don't know... The solution in my opinion will be a conglomerate of individual changes as well as updates to the to the system's infrastructure. I myself just came to the same realization with the up Bots as I have not made nearly what any of them say I should and breaking even has been about the best outcome. As long as there is power out there, power will always do what it has to do to maintain itself. That is the biggest problem. While not all whales are acting like sharks, there's definitely some that are and that's where independent changes need to be implemented by us individually. We need to change who we follow who we give our power to and how we treat the system that has given us so much. I recently started cleaning up my follow list. To be honest I feel a little bit grimey doing this but it seems to me to be the only solution, I've started unfollowing anybody who doesn't have a high-value account in an attempt to make mine grow. While there is a lot of good material being left in the dust my justification is that once I do grow and get to where I want to be I will give back by following and boosting those individuals. It is a very difficult situation on our hands and I don't know the answer but I think if we continue to keep this dialogue open in a democratic way we can make change. Thank you for your article.
Will do, thx for the thought! Ill be following as well
You are not doing anything wrong but it's the actual fact.
I've tried almost all of those upvote bots but none of them gave profit...Now I have almost stopped using them, I prefer to buy steem and power up with the SBDs rather than giving it to upvote bots.
I have the same experience, can you smell it... :)
:)
I´d never used and will never use voting-bots! For me it is ridiculous. The people think they are good, but they have to pay to seem it. Wow, so much different to the World outside of steemit :)
Da ist etwas was nicht ausgesprochen wird. Fühlst du das auch?
Thanks for sharing your opinion. As I mentioned in my comment reply, I prefer people think about long-term value and be an owner, not a renter. I like how @minnowbooster shares profits with token holders via the @buildteam token. I like that team and I can see the value for those who want to purchase immediate influence, but long term, I hope people will choose to increase their influence via obtaining more Steem Power.
All I can say is
The same thing I've seen in the past with other companies is happening to Steemit. There is a way to fix it though, and that's basically to require "Proof of Brain" in the strictest sense possible. Owner of a bot? Lost all your SBD and your accounts. You have to make it so it's a fear to use a bot at all.
I'll admit I looked into the bots, decided not to use them. They're not mathematically feasible, unless, of course, you actually own said bot in question, in which case you have every incentive to use it because people are quite stupid.
Casino is a valid comparison with "house always wins".
Great article. And I hate them pesky Bots to.
Great article, loads of info, magazine feature caliber story for steemit platform. Great work, keep it up. Ha, yeah and they carry virtually no investment value, they are so overbid right now. There are a lot of people jumping at them, they have become yesterday's news on steemit, which shocks the hell out of me being on here only three months I didn't realize their value has no where near keeping up the demand.
It's absolutely ridiculous that the issue of upvote bots and site exposure hasn't been addressed properly.
Instead of trying to fix the problem we programmers are stuck in the old ways of simply trying to abuse the system.
It's like a professional athlete that does performance enhancing drugs: "Everyone else does it so I have to do it to stay competitive."
No... no you don't. The programmers on this chain need to remove head from ass and program ways to find the real content. Wade through the shit and find those candy sprinkles.
Ohhh but, steemit frontend developers if they exist are not steem blockchain developers - right?
You're using minnowbooster. You're paying for upvotes to make it look like your content is better than it is. You're part of the problem.
Obviously, the whales drowning out your content with their massive payouts is a bigger problem. Fixing a problem with another problem seems to be how people operate around here.
I have been feeling the same lately. I think I may have used them for the last time yesterday. The thing that gets me is that it increases the wealth gap like you said. Plus the numbers just never add up in my favor.