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6 years ago in #utopian-io by crokkon (69)
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If I’m not mistaken, concentration of stake/influence was one of the main gripes around here prior to last year’s hard forks that were supposed to help correct it. But it appears that the changed/implemented protocols have failed to make much of a difference at all in that regard.
I think it’s safe to say that adding Steemvoter and other private automated voting would put this figure well over 50%, possibly into the 60s or more.
So, what we have here is a platform with activity that is dominated by automation and largely influenced by paying for what are essentially whale votes that are actually larger than most non-bidding (human) whales. To me, this is much worse than any superlinearity “problems” that previously existed. I’m not sure how a social media platform can survive like this if it continues down the same path.
But since very few seem to care - particularly the “leadership” that created the original problems, then created the worse “solutions” to the original problems they created - I don’t believe any of this data will matter much. We all know that something isn’t right, but instead of seriously looking at this data and trying to comprehend it, most people here will simply cheerlead and shill for Steem and STINC, then denigrate anyone who isn’t doing the same.
And the problems continue...
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What do you think of these proposals:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@quillfire/central-premise-and-proposals-a-series-about-fixing-steemit-part-4
https://steemit.com/steemit/@quillfire/follow-up-central-premise-and-proposals-a-series-about-fixing-steemit-part-4
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The top 20 accounts are taking ~53% of the pool each day, I could use some help publicizing that, if you wanted to power back up and be somebody, again.
After all that time it was right there using keys. Respect. This is an amazing analysis. 5% is not too bad. But the 41% autovotes hmmmm thats why no one is reading. Very interesting
Need to learn to use beem. Holger pointed me to it before, just need to find the time.
Awesome work.
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That is actually concerning. The contents have moved beyond from just reading and people aren't consuming.
Taking "don't read half the times" to a literal level.
Oooh great! This is very clever! I was doing this locally earlier by tracking memos, though it doesn't handle when people are using internal balances to initiate a vote (I do handle refunded balances though). This, while time consuming, should capture everything. Thanks for the analysis!
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Very interesting indeed, takes some time to assimilate all these numbers and figures... Well done thanks for posting!
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In your conclusion you wrote:
The votes from bid-bots and paid voting services sum up to 28.7% of all votes by value for that day
But doesn't it sum up to 28.17+3.82+1.44=33.43%?
In general this is really a great investigation as it solves a long time outstanding question!
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Interesting stuff, @crokkon. Very, very interesting!
I want to mention that Smartsteem previously had the steemconnect option and so far, still a solid number of votes are being made through steemconnect instead of posting key signing.
Which means, the number for Smartsteem will be a bit higher. And it would be quite interesting to have data for multiple days or even weeks.
Also, while I don't have an exact number for daily votes, so far over 6.6 million votes have been made from vote-sellers.
Anyway, thank you for your work!
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Great analysis, @crokkon ! Congrats!
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Automation isn't that bad if used properly.
I'm still doing full manual curation but I'm well aware of how inefficient is that. However, there's a chance here for some middle ground: https://steemit.com/wise/@lukestokes/sneak-peak-wise-vote-an-interview-with-noisy
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Great analysis. No wonder it's taken you so long to post since last time!
What I take away from those two pie charts are the small no.of votes from bid bots compared to large overall vote value in relation to the large number of steem auto votes compared to relatively small value.
So this must be case of a few wealthy players buying themselves votes via bid-bots and then the medium to small level players spreading their votes relatively thin via auto voters.
I don't think personalized auto voting is all bad, as long as you review it every few weeks!
Also aren't smartsteem and minnowbooster basically 'bid-bots' too, essentially?
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Oh OK - I must have just misread... about the SS and MB being a subset of bots....
Still, it's not actually as botified as I thought.
Cheers!
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If bidbots take 30%, and the top ten voters take 30%, how much is left once the top 100 voters vote?
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I'm trying to get this post recreated, too.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@bitgeek/payout-stats-report-for-25th-december-2017--part-i
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