Github Repo
https://github.com/themarkymark-steem/buildawhaleblacklist
@buildawhale blacklist
The @buildawhale blacklist is a project I started a while ago to prevent spammers, plagiarizers, scammers, and abusers from being able to use bid bots to boost posts. It also attempts to identify them via @badcontent so curation efforts will be able to easily identify bad actors before rewarding them.
The blacklist currently has 11,246 entries, all researched and verified by me.
How to use
The blacklist is currently hosted on Github and can be accessed via the raw file link. This link is a list of all blacklisted users updated in real time in a flat text file format. The Repo is licensed MIT so any project on Steemit is able to use it for free.
I do recommend caching it, as Github does not handle frequent requests in real time to raw files. So either pull the report every hour or so or cache the list in ram and update it every so often (hourly is what I recommend).
Who uses the blacklist?
I don't know all the projects who use the blacklist, as I am sure there are some that use it I am not aware of. A few I know of are:
- BuildAWhale
- SteemHunt
- SteemPress
- SteemCleaners
- Minnow Booster
- Post Promoter
- brandonfrye
- Steemflagrewards
I know other projects are going to be using the blacklist soon and some I don't even know about use it now. Let me know in the comments if you are using my blacklist and I can add you to the list.
Future plans
There are plans to release a public API to make integration easier and more standardized. There is additional functionality being added as well to allow consumers to identify what blacklist users are on and ultimately categories of abuse.
Difficulties
Maintaining a blacklist is not easy, it is extremely time consuming and it opens me up to a lot of harassment. I have been threatened, harassed, and flagged as the result of my efforts. I even have a bounty on my head for 100 SBD by one user to get my personal information so they can come to my house and film whatever they plan on attempting. Not a day goes by I question why I bother in the current state of things. Why care when so few others do? Why should I take profit loses and devote countless hours to fighting abuse when most of the 100+ bots are running on autopilot.
Many decisions to blacklist or not are very difficult as spam is subjective and does not have a consistent black and white definition or benchmark. I have guidelines I have developed to maintain focus and bearing to what I consider spam and abuse. Even with these, I frequently find it difficult to make a decision.
Many of the blacklist entries involve hours of research using custom tools and techniques to identify them. None of this time is rewarded and actually becomes a cost center to me on Steem. I do not have free delegation or sponsorship to maintain this project and I currently do this out of pocket.
I have frequently found large abuse networks consisting of hundreds of users. Some abusing faucet delegation, some market delegation, and some their own stake. There is no one clear rule of what the community allows and will tolerate, in fact almost every Steem user has their own opinion on the matter.
Contribution
The blacklist is updated multiple times a day and is a living list that is maintained on a regular basis.
Currently, I am the sole contributor and supporter of the blacklist project. I do work with SteemCleaners closely as well as a few other projects who focus on reducing abuse on the platform.
Witness
If you want to support a Steem platform free from spam and abuse, please consider voting @themarkymark as a witness. I am passionate, present, and active, something that severely lacking on this platform. I also administer multiple public and private full nodes and spend a lot of time helping and educating other users and preventing other types of abuse.
Why you should vote me as witness
Witness & Administrator of four full nodes
Active, Present, Passionate
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So far this week you've reviewed 11 contributions. Keep up the good work!
@themarkymark It is regrettable that people are resorting to threats, but money and social media bring out the worst in people, and Steemit combines both. I'm sure you anticipated that response from some, inexcusable as it is.
However, having been designated a bad actor by your system, resulting in every post of mine being tagged by your bot, I can understand the frustration some people are feeling.
I use my account to publish original content using automated tools. Some people may not like my content, and that is fine. But it is legitimate content, and I consider it to be art. I have described my purpose and method in detail:
https://loggiaonfire.com/magazine/it_is_time_for_humanity_to_eat_our_feedback_1490821089.html
https://loggiaonfire.com/magazine/fresh_and_exclusive_culturally_recycled_haiku_to_grow_your_brain_1491508203.html
I suspect I was "referred" to your system by someone that does not like me. Plenty of people don't, because of my association with John McAfee. An association that I leveraged to help bring eyes to the Steemit platform.
https://steemit.com/dogecoin/@loggiaonfire/wow-much-endorsement-john-mcafee-selects-dogecoin-as-coin-of-the-week-on-twitter
The comments give a good idea of the traffic that resulted. I did not need to publish here, I have my own blog. I did so to give the platform a boost. Mr. McAfee was gracious enough to play along and, as usual, got only abuse for his trouble.
Rather than threaten you, I am going to humbly suggest that perhaps you are casting a bit of a wide net and, as a result, waging a campaign of automated slander against people using the platform in good faith. Regardless of you motives, that is not a good outcome.
Or perhaps you evaluated my content and genuinely believe it to be such garbage that it qualifies as spam. That is your business, but realize that this attitude holds Steemit back. I've spoken with quite a few individuals over the last year, some with very large audiences elsewhere, that will not come over because of this kind of hostility towards content producers.
Anyway, these are my thoughts. You may continue to denigrate my work - no harm will come to you from my direction. But I wanted my perspective to be in the record.
As a footnote, I must say that it is interesting to me that your profile tagline discusses not taking life too seriously. I subscribe to that philosophy to a religious extent. But it is hard to reconcile that sentiment with the image of a self-appointed policeman such as you have become. I can't say I get it.
Oh my god! This is terrible! Why do they feel so entitled to ruin other people's lives as if the world around them belonged to them? This shows their dedication to breaking the well-being of the community for their own benefit. I'm glad you still go ahead despite all of this, but I wish you'd take care of yourself. I don't want you to be a victim of these people.
Is it automated or do you push every name by hand? If you could create an API and then just "approve" new blacklist insertions, I think it could save a lot of time (unless you're already doing this).
I know (from my own experience) that the work you put in to make this blacklist available is incredibly time-consuming, and doesn't even benefit you as a promotional service. As you've mentioned, from a financial perspective, spammers are our best customers. And rarely do you even get a thank you for researching these users.
So I thank you for making this available for all bot owners to use, and I hope more will decide to use it. It's an invaluable resource and if more of us simply plugged this in then we could really put a huge dent in the abuse here. Keep up the great work. It's exactly why you have my witness vote (oh, and the fact that you run 4 full nodes!) :)
Thanks for all the hard work you do.
You are well deserving of a top 20 spot on the witness list.
You stay up late and get up early. I believe you are doing your very best to help all grow on steemit.
Abuse fighting is very time consuming and some days I don't even want to vote at all.
Then something happens and I get my focus back and start all over again.
Everyone needs to help us establish what is good and acceptable on the platform. And right now the only tools we have are the ones we create ourselves.
Its odd at times that the folks at steemit inc don't seem to care. I think they do but have limited what they can accomplish by the quality of help they have hired. Its odd that a company that creates money from nothing can not hire enough good people to get the job done?
There must be some other agenda we don't know about?
Your Blacklist should be part of Steem Blockchain code :)
Good job mate!
I don't think a centralised blacklist could be added to a blockchain described as decentralised, but witnesses could work it in nonetheless. It would be pretty hard to push for it, though.
The problem is the only solution to many of the problems steem faces are centralized. Until the community has the resources and desire to police itself, it will decay or require centralization in some degree.
Totally agreed!
Regulation is centralised in nature given the subjectivity of rules, but to create a community with certain basic limits to enforce safety and comfort, it's necessary. I'm not sure how it can be done without hardcoding it into the blockchain.
As you say, the community needs more resources and desire to police itself. There is a lackluster unwillingness to meddle with shady projects.
The ideal solution, also unlikely, is the birth of many measures like your blacklist. People creating bots, stuff like Steemcleaners, to massively influence the quality of the site. The community needs moderators, but decentralisation blocks this in its core. Though it's accomplishable, it's much harder than on any other community.
Do you think blockchain-based centralisation is the best solution to this?
I think it is the best solution considering the near zero community involvement. It’s not best for decentralization but it is the best for getting the done.
Decentralized doesn't mean all's fair..
Doesn't mean one party can block everyone from even posting in the blockchain either.
It's one thing to flag or deny certain services. That's the purpose of this blacklist. If someone wants to launch a project and they don't want fishy users in their land, they can plug their verifications to this blacklist and it's easy-peasy.
It's another thing to disallow digital presence. Decentralised Freedom of Speech means that anyone can create an account and post whatever they want. The principles by which Steem was created and by which it's publicised make this an essential quality to the blockchain.
Right but, decentralised freedom of speech doesn't mean all's fair because freedom doesn't mean all's fair.. if "you" come here just try to scam someone you don't come to speech, you come to scam/steal
Yeah. Let's make an assumption. Let's say the person who created the blacklist is not themarkymark but someone else, someone without scruples who pretends to be noble. Everyone believes this person and allows them to create a blacklist where they personally plug in those "approved" as spammers and scammers.
The blacklist is inserted into the blockchain. This person then writes a name into the list of someone who's speaking against them (someone like Wikileaks vs. Hillary Clinton). Not a scammer, not a spammer, just someone saying things that are not convenient for a "purpose". Boom, freedom of speech is dead because their posts are "rejected" by the blockchain.
The only possible conciliation measure for this would be to create a consensus system where people "agree" that the person is a scammer or a spammer and does not deserve to post on the blockchain, but that could also be played with if everyone is plugged into the first person's blacklist and they just "approve" whatever they insert into the list and make it global in their own lists. Or if the most influential witnesses all want to play the same game.
It's not about fairness, because I agree with that. It's about who would have the right to decide on other people's right to speak.
We already have flags and warning bots. We have @arcange, who tells people when a commenter under their posts has a scammy link. There's a lot that can be done protect people without taking away the right of accounts to post to the blockchain due to centralised lists.
I repeat, though. I love the blacklist and what it currently does. I'm just arguing against making it a centralised blockchain-based censorship measure.
What I've said "blacklist inside blockchain" of course I mean that blacklist should be approved by witness, like hard forks, etc... Anyone ask you if HF20 is ok to you? But it doesn't come from "someone without scruples who pretends to be noble"
The amount of spam on this network is crazy. I see Cheetah catches a lot but some of those spammers it's only like 1 in 10 blogs that it picks up. I sometimes cruise Facebook steemit groups which are full people who don't speak English but post transcribed lectures lectures from professors, and a shit ton gets by. I don't either bother taking away their 1 cent with a flag. I don't know if robots can catch a high percentage of scammers on here maybe we need gangs of downvote vigilantes. Good job with the shitlist
Nice work @themarkymark your influence is really being felt on steemit. Kudos!
I have to applaud your effort in battling the abuse and maintaining the blacklist. People do take it to the extreme, as exemplified by your two comedyopenmic post entries. Appreciate your time in tackling such an ugly subject here on Steem.
You now have my small witness support. I didn't think I would vote for another bot owner besides yabapmatt, but I know you are also doing a lot for the Steem community.
Thanks :)
YW. Thanks to you too! :)
They say some people just like the thrill of the chase. I often do these cross word puzzles where every letter of the alphabet is assigned a number, the only clue you get is two letters, you fill in area's of the puzzle assigned to those two numbers then you have to figure it out from there. For the last three weeks I've been working on one where I've met my match....I can't get it started because I can't figure out any words to get a start off...but I don't give up and look on the answer page, there would be no challenge in that.
Are you in the steem speak server for discord?
Yes. Right now in my pool but I show up there a lot.
Ahahaha, i realize you are there. I saw you on the server.
@themarkymark in your first line you have written @badcontent means if suppose any person who is abusing on comment or if some has write a very bed thing on blog we have to use it?? Please correct me if i am wrong. Thank you
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It is my bot that comments on posts by users on my blacklist.
So is there any specific things by doing it your bot keep that user in your blacklist?
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There are so many of us that appreciate and support your work on this project. It sucks that more don't upvote just to help you maintain it. It doesn't even help just bots, it helps all of the groups and communities (especially the curation ones) to help maintain quality.
You definitely have my vote! Thanks for all the effort you have and continue to put into making Steemit scam free. "I aim to misbehave..." Just not on Steemit. lol
lmfao! 100 sbd to DOX you? I'd require alot more SBD than that! :P Thanks for doing all this for the community :) People are ***holes, but I can only hope the rest of us make up for it!
My question would be, how do you define abuse? Are you talking about abusive language or harassing of people who have a differing opinion, political or otherwise.
I want Steem to be a community unlike the other platforms where people are experiencing censorship and deplatforming simply because they don't hold the right opinions.
Plz remove me from blacklist
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