RE: Fathers Talk About Their Unvaccinated Children and the Unbelievable Differences from Most Kids.

[timbo]

Through a lot more research than a simple google or asking a Dr. I have come to the conclusion that in today's world Vaccines are not usually the answer.

I have also come to the conclusion that once upon a time. They were, and in some parts of the world. A vaccine can very well save your life.

Traveling abroad without vaccines is VERY VERY dangerous but the risk is more so in getting vaccines when a younger child or as an infant.

If you planned on traveling to an area that a vaccine is going to benefit you I would recommend waiting until the exact time you are the healthiest and able to accept something of the sort.

Personally, my mother had us vaccinated when we were kids only because of a forced hand of the state and not being able to attend day care.

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[canadian-coconut]

Thank-you for commenting Timbo!
The best answer for 3rd-world conditions would be better infrastructure, specifically sanitation, along with a well-rounded diet. Vaccines aren't going to make a malnourished person healthy.
If my children ever decided to travel someday somewhere filthy and diseased, they can make their own decisions on vaccines as an adult. I believe that with research on what the threats in that location are, they could probably just bring along proper water cleaning systems, and/or certain supplements that are known to prevent that specific affliction.

A person does have to be very careful with travel vaccines and getting everything recommended. For example a neighbour of my mother's, a young woman, came down with Guillain Barre Syndrome and was hospitalized for a long time because of her vaccines for a trip to Africa. I think that she would have been better off taking her chances in Africa without the vaccines, or just not going at all if she had known the risk of the vaccines. As it was, she had to cancel the trip anyways since she was hospitalized.

[timbo]

I believe that with research on what the threats in that location are, they could probably just bring along proper water cleaning systems, and/or certain supplements that are known to prevent that specific affliction.

100% Agree

[timbo]

PROOF:

Smallpox vaccine, the first successful vaccine to be developed, was introduced by Edward Jenner in 1796. He followed up his observation that milkmaids who had previously caught cowpox did not later catch smallpox by showing that inoculated cowpox protected against inoculated smallpox.

SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine

In the time of smallpox, a similar strain of the sickness cowpox would prevent others from getting sick if they got cowpox via working around cows, or by vaccine.

As your challenge stated:

Prove your claim, that vaccines save your life, in certain parts of the world, at one time or another.

So in Europe during the years 1796 to the late 1800s I believe and the proof shows, getting a smallpox vaccine was very likely to save your life.

"The mortality of the severe form of smallpox—variola major—was very high without vaccination, up to 35% in some outbreaks.[4] A method of inducing immunity known as inoculation, insufflation or "variolation" was practiced before the development of a modern vaccine and likely occurred in India, Africa, and China well before the practice arrived in Europe"

In China in the time from 1567–1572 the below information would also prove that a type of vaccine, or inoculation which is another word for vaccine. The case of smallpox vaccines would also have been praised as saving millions of lives.

In China, powdered smallpox scabs were blown up the noses of the healthy. The patients would then develop a mild case of the disease and from then on were immune to it. The technique did have a 0.5–2.0% mortality rate, but that was considerably less than the 20–30% mortality rate of the disease itself.

Now, don't get me wrong, the easy way to prove that there was a time and a place that vaccines were effective and the better choice is easy to prove yet... I will also have to state... this is no longer the majority of cases. Especially in the corporate world of the Big Pharma Companies all over the world trying to make a buck on the backs of the fear mongering they cause.

I do appreciate the challenge though, this was a eye opener and a fun dive into more information on the subject.

Have an awesome day!
~ @Timbo

[canadian-coconut]

Yes, yes ... I will have to do an articlw on the REAL history of smallpox.
What we have been told is mostly myth.

[timbo]

I have been offline for 4 weeks. Just seeing this for the first time. What I have to say right now is that this isn't worth my time and I work a lot so I am not spending anymore time on this. Nothing personal just the last thing I want to do is sit here and argue with someone about who is right or wrong on a topic that doesn't have much weight.

Wishing you the best and good luck my friend! I do appreciate the time and effort you put into it and it is obvious you have a passion for this.

Have a great night!

[timbo]

I read the first 2 lines of your comment.

Look man, it is a month old.

I didn't realize you did anything either, I commented a month ago on someone elses post, and you proved me wrong good for you. Can't be right all the time.