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RE: Huge Win for Vaccine Injured, Lawsuit Wins $101 Million Measles Vaccine Settlement

in #vaccines6 years ago

Thank you for proving my point. You said:

"... generally those infected without proper treatment beyond handwashing get lockjaw and die. "

I said:

"Bullshit."

Now you correctly state that the vast majority of people survive tetanus.

You are also here diverting from my point about hygiene, which is that it prevents immune systems from being constantly under attack, leaving it strong to deal with diseases like tetanus.

Handwashing doesn't wash away tetanus. I never said it did, and you pretend that is the issue.

Staaaaaahp! Just be honest, and quit playing games like a paid shill. If the facts support your thesis, you will be proved right, and people that listen to you will be safer as a result.

Playing games like you are forces people like me to discount everything you say, because you're clearly playing games, so nothing you say can be trusted.

Insofar as vaccines are of medical benefit, you're harming people by forcing them to distrust vaccines because people playing games with facts are promoting them.

People could die as a result.

The harm from vaccines is not neglible. Huge numbers of children suffer death and mental disability: incidence of autism has increased as the vaccine schedule has, by orders of magnitude.

Alzheimer's and other dementias have as well.

The correlation between vaccination and mental injury is obscured. You're doing it now.

"There is loads of data, but you reject it all right?"

Strawman, get thee behind me!

You make your bed, you lie in it. Keep playing games with words, and no one will trust yours.

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the vast majority of people survive tetanus because they get treatment beyond handwashing!
even with proper treatment beyond handwashing 10% still die.

"You are also here diverting from my point about hygiene, which is that it prevents immune systems from being constantly under attack, leaving it strong to deal with diseases like tetanus."

That's not how immune systems work, the more they are used and exposed to the stronger they get. Too much cleanliness and not enough exposure to different things leads to allergies and other problems.

like a paid shill

LOL, we have come full circle, if there were paying shill positions they have to be targeting platforms with more than 60,000 daily users. Can you help me find such a job? I would quit Steemit. in a minute.

You seem to be trying to totally deny that vaccines are of medical benefit, which is just absurd. If people are going to die from listening to either of us, and I can assure you that not one goddamned person has read this far into our discussion, it would be someone who choose to believe that vaccines in general are dangerous and represent a bigger threat than the diseases they prevent.
"people could die as a result" is just more hyperbole and fearmongering to try to play up very very small threats and make them seem significant.

So how many people do you personally know who have been seriously injured or killed by the polio vaccine?

"That's not how immune systems work, the more they are used and exposed to the stronger they get. Too much cleanliness and not enough exposure to different things leads to allergies and other problems."

While exposure increases the breadth of responses immune systems are preprogrammed to provide (vaccine theory in a nutshell) poor hygiene overtaxes immune systems by depleting the resources the body has to provide the responses.

Srsly. You know this. Why play games?

While 'People could die as a result' is hyperbolic, it's factually correct. 'A very very small threat' is equally hyperbolic, and untrue.

It is highly likely that I have been injured by the polio vaccine, by being exposed to SV40, a virus that was wrongly delivered to millions of children via polio vaccinations.

I ain't dead yet, but that don't mean I ain't pissed about it, or that it won't kill me eventually. A viral infection is a gift that keeps on giving - forever.

It is highly likely that I have been injured by the polio vaccine, by being exposed to SV40, a virus that was wrongly delivered to millions of children via polio vaccinations.

But you are not sure? do you have cancer or not? Is your cancer worse than what happened both those who died and those who lived but were then later killed by polio injuries? I think I would rather have cancer than end up waving to people on the side of the road before an early death.

Something or other will kill everyone eventually but way fewer people die from various diseases thanks to vaccination.

And there is this:

Looks like there is not any evidence of increased mortality, I wouldn't worry too much about it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2375249/