You know, you're missing a giant point in the 11 vs. 81 argument.
["In 1912, measles became a nationally notifiable disease in the United States, requiring U.S. healthcare providers and laboratories to report all diagnosed cases. In the first decade of reporting, an average of 6,000 measles-related deaths were reported each year.
In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 4,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles."](https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html)
The whole REASON there were only 11 measles deaths is BECAUSE of vaccines. I know there are a lot of factors going on, and I'm not addressing NAP. But to call for a return to the good ole days is pretty short-sighted.
Measles mortality rates were in steep decline far prior to the introduction of the vaccine due to improved nutrition/sanitation.
This is always the point that "the science is settled" people miss. I'm always seeing comparisons between vaccine-preventable deaths in third world countries vs. first world countries, and none of them EVER take into account the massive differences in nutrition and sanitation between the two. Even though it is well known that disease transmission rates are dramatically reduced by things like modern plumbing and air filtration, and that immune systems are highly compromised by a lack of protein and other essential nutrients, all of which these third world locations are known to lack wide access to.
I also talk about this point in my answer post:
https://steemit.com/health/@lennstar/replay-to-kafkanarchy84-article-on-unvaxxed-it-is-full-of-holes
Your answer post misrepresents the whole point of my whole article, as pointed out above by another user. It also misquotes me.
Nobody is calling for something as stupid as that.
You aren't, but I think a lot of people who are very decidedly anti-vaxx are. But do you see the point I was making? No doubt vaccines aren't perfect, and there's no good way of reconciling it to NAP, so we're stuck with a healthier population from ethically questionable methods.