Watching little children grow up these days creates anxiety for the elderly... well for some of us. 
Different people have very strong opinions on what is required within a child’s basic learning environment. Creativity is popular these days. Listening... not so much. Obedience has lost out for quite a long time spanning decades. Following along with the group seems to top the list of lessons taught in schools.
In the 1950’s and early 1960’s we had teachers who were born as early as 1900. In general that generation was strict. My great aunts were school teachers. They were known to carry hickory sticks in class. They valued discipline. They realized and employed the educational value of pain.
It was dangerous at the time to let your mind wander. Disobedience was simply not tolerated.
In the 1950’s a singing group called the “Coasters” had a hit record. Here are some of the lyrics:
Take out the papers and the trash
Or you don't get no spendin' cash
If you don't scrub that kitchen floor
You ain't gonna rock and roll no more
Yakety yak (don't talk back)
Just finish cleanin' up your room
Let's see that dust fly with that broom
Get all that garbage out of sight
Or you don't go out Friday night
Yakety yak (don't talk back)
You just put on your coat and hat
And walk yourself to the laundromat
And when you finish doin' that
Bring in the dog and put out the cat
Yakety yak (don't talk back)
Don't you give me no dirty looks
Your father's hip; he knows what cooks
Just tell your hoodlum friend outside
You ain't got time to take a ride
Yakety yak (don't talk back)
The inspiration for this song was the teaching methods employed by elderly teachers of the time. Students knew instant discipline for poor behavior.
How many current teachers or even parents have earned the right to discipline a child. Would I be allowed to teach if I inflicted pain as part of my technique? Such methods have been lost. This is mostly for the good, but partly bad...
Under this reign of terror, my generation learned to respect. We also learned to rebel.
Children did not have the right to express an opinion until they became adult. The voting age was 21 for a reason.
Here is today’s beauty... a photo of a Veteran from the American Civil War.
Thanks lot for your important post share with us.This is really learning post for us.
I am happy that teachers are no longer allowed to beat the children. I remember that my ear was turned around by a teacher when I was 10 or so.
But no is no, also for my grandchildren.
I am glad I was a kid in the 60's, I Loved the way the world was to grow up in at that time. These young kids today will never know or understand what that was like. Yes I was disciplined as a child and that means I did get spankings when I was wrong and out of line......................
This look very much like you doc.
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STOPI concur sir..
The world is loosing her identity as a result of lacking of discipline, no parents or any other person is allowed to discipline a child.
I concur sir..
The world is loosing her identity as a result of lacking of discipline, no parents or any other person is allowed to discipline a child.
Despite concurring to some of your points, I would also like to say that this is entirely a perception issue. The older generation always complains that today’s children are more unruly than we’ve ever seen before. Adults have a strange way of forgetting all the hell they raised when they were younger.
I know the new generation has lost most of its sanity, but we shouldn't emphasized this issue as if there were no corrupt or disobedient children in the old days.
That apart, now lets talk about the root where the problem really comes from.
I don't and can never believe that only the teachers of old were responsible for the good growth of the old kids. The row of fathers and mothers were very very essential to the children's development. A dog can't give birth to a rabbit, most of the misbehavior of these kids were inherited from their parents. Even if the parents are good and discovered their little children are having another kinda behavior, then it is still the duty of the parents to caution the child of any inappropriate behavior, doing this continually would eventually yield good returns.
In this regard, the parental level of the modern age is nothing to write about, how do you expect a father or mother without self discipline to raise a child with self discipline?
Children are always observant of their parents, they see the behaviors and are quick to adapt to any kind of way they have discovered from their parents.
Here is another reason why the teachers can't be responsible for perfect upbringing of a child without the child's parent. Unlike the old days, most parents don't allow cautioning their children (Too Much Pampering). Some aren't comfortable with the slight of seeing or hearing that their children were seriously beaten, I bet in my country some parents can sue any teacher for such reasons. In my primary days, I once received 12 serious lashes on my ass just because I was caught playing with my school uniform at home. Unfortunately dad was not living with us, but trust mum: she gave the school a thumbs up for beating me and even went to the school authority to complain that I was so stubborn.
So if you say the old days children are more equipped in terms of discipline, then much regards should go to their parents before their teachers in school... CHARITY BEGINS FROM HOME.
Bravo! I appreciate the thought and effort! Parental errors seem to repeat in cycles.
These days children give opinions more than the elders. And that's how they were brought up
HI Dr. John,
I teach school in Shreveport. As teachers, we are underpaid and disrespected by all of society. It's a shame. Today's children have no respect (except for a small percentage) and this makes learning difficult. When a student is allowed to "tell an adult to shut the F up and nothing is done about it, other than writing up a referral that's never acted upon. Children that allowed to continue this disrespect in school are being set up for failure. It's very disheartening to watch a young person behave so inappropriately and do nothing about it. However, once the child gets older and disrespects a law officer , then the lesson is a hard one. I wish that society could show more respect and teach children to be respectful, so that they may have a more full filling life of happiness and blessings. I enjoyed the picture of the young soldier who looks to be about 14. Oh my, how he had to grow up fast and learn to be respectful to survive.
This is a paradox. Students need discipline. They should get it at home, but this is rare. I gave my children a very small dose. They are fine, but I risked quite a lot if I had been discovered. Pain given in love is difficult to teach. Pain given in anger is often repeated.
I can understand your way of thinking very well.