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RE: Response to misleading vegan information

in #vegan7 years ago (edited)

If what I say is so unbelievable, why do you need to attack and slander me? Do you have a problem with people who disagree with your dogma?

I do know what you're talking about. I read, and bought into, all that shit for many years. Only when I started to do my own research did I notice how misleading the vegan propaganda actually is.

Oh, and you still haven't brought this precious evidence with you. If you're gonna demand I back up everything I say with evidence, then you'd better play your side of the game too. If you wanna protect your precious dogma, bring the proof it's the best diet. You won't, of course, because there is no proof. It doesn't exist.

You don't like proof; you just like to feel as though you're RIGHT. You don't strike me as the type who needs evidence. You just believe, don't you! Like a feeble little sheep. You get your information from a cluster of incestuous sources and you believe. You swallow it. And you close your ears to anybody that says different. They're just wrong. Heathens. Dangerous. Burn the witch! You really think a diet where you need to INJECT YOUR ARSE with synthetic B12 is the healthiest diet of them all? Listen to yourself.

all humans are physiologically herbivores

Let's just give this gem a moment on its own. Let us reflect on its ignorance. LOL. Humans are omnivores. Open a biology book. What other bullshit do you believe? I'm genuinely interested now. Unicorns? Fairies? Magic men in the sky?

Dr Greger: cherry-picking, vegan propagandist! Are you serious? Jesus! I'm not gonna read through someone else's filter. Especially not his! I go straight to the original scientific source and use my own cognitive abilities. BTW, Greger claims that blood cholesterol is linked to dietary cholesterol. He's wrong. Look up the science.

So veganism works. If it doesn't it's not the vegan diet's fault; it's incompetence or the person is just lying. You sure there aren't any other options? Vegan diet: don't eat animal products. Stick to plant based. Keep an eye on macro- and micro-nutrients. Ok. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. But I didn't eat any animal products. And I took all the supplements recommended at the time. And I made sure I was getting protein and... YOU'RE A FUCKING LIAR THEN! rage quit

You didn't mention for how many months you've been vegan. I'm guessing not too many.

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Sorry, I meant to say frugivores not herbivores.

I don't inject my arse with B12. I don't know of any vegan who does. B12 is produced by soil bacteria, and can thus be found in dirt and water. Drinking from natural water sources or eating vegetables that haven't been washed could both provide our original needs. Because the livestock are also deficient in that in the modern world, they too are supplemented with it.

I think your ignorance about B12 clearly indicates you were never really vegan.

If Dr Michael Greger is cherry picking, then you must be picking the individual atoms of cherries, because the contrast between what he does and what you have done is quite stark. All you seem to have done is cherry pick the cherry picking of paleo and keto websites and/or blogs.

The second last paragraph is again completely unsupported by evidence. Science shows that if someone is actually doing all those things (which I don't think you were. In your apparently fraudulent story you weren't even committed enough to veganism to stop cooking meat for others) they will have no nutritional deficiencies and very good health. There are vegan ultra marathon runners.

Anyway, as I said. If such an ignorant statement about B12 is one of your arguments, it is really obvious that you were never a vegan.

And lowering my dietary cholesterol lowered my blood cholesterol. Vegans typically have lower blood cholesterol levels than non-vegans. That's why doctors recommend reducing dietary cholesterol intake to reduce cholesterol. It's pretty obvious. Another nail in the coffin for your supposed veganism and scientific understanding.

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