Authored by @evecab
Dear readers,
Welcome to week #4 of the Vegans of Steemit Newsletter! Let's see what happened in the vegan & veggie community these past days and catch up with some of the best posts out there!
The goal of this Newsletter is to showcase the most interesting publications from our vegan Steemit & Whaleshares community during the week, and introduce new members worth checking out. We also feature a Q&A section at the end of the newsletter, in which non-vegans can ask anything they need to know about veganism and how to get there. Help us spread the vegan love!
This week, @plantstoplanks is keeping us fit all while earning some Steem in her plank challenge. Come on guys, let's show people that we have enough protein in our system to win this, and show her some support:
Many people believe that vegans don't have a lot of food choices, but they are wrong! The purpose of this section is to portray just how many different delicious meal recipes there are to choose from, the options are endless! Each week, we'll show you at least three different recipes, one for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
- Start your morning with a full load of vitamins, and try this healthy and delicious smoothie bowl recipe by @injiskitchen:
- If you ran out of ideas for lunch, you may want to try @flamingirl's delicious carrot and sweet potato cream. It's easy to make, and will fill you with the energy you need for the rest of your day.
- Dinner time! Are you craving pasta, and want a little protein boost at the same time? I don't know what you think, but I might just try @ura-soul's mouth-watering recipe at my next dinner party:
This week, I would like to introduce you all to @jepper who is questioning whether eating animals is morally justifiable. Even though he is not yet vegan, he is on the right path and therefore he gets credit for opening his mind about these issues and deserves our support. Nobody was born vegan, and even though some may jump into it with both feet, it is a lengthier process for most of us. Thank you @jepper for voicing your thoughts about this important issue!
Is it true that plants can feel pain?
This is something we as vegans hear every day. People who are not vegan, or opposed to veganism always come to us with this argument. Why give up animals when plants can feel pain too? Should we stop eating all together?
What I like to explain is that it is true that plants have the ability to react to stress factors, however they do not have a complex central nervous system as animals or humans do. Hence, plants do not have the physical capacity (like a brain) to experience pain, fear, panic, love and compassion like animals and humans do.
You wouldn't sit on your couch and watch TV while petting your cactus, would you?
Animals are conscious beings and we know this for a fact. They can play, think, they can miss you, fear us and show us affection. I don't think it's fair to compare the terror of a cow about to be slaughtered with a chemical reaction of a plant being cut. Animals are much more similar to humans, so saying that veganism doesn't make sense because plants could feel pain too is a little ridiculous, don't you think?
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Another great roundup of yummy recipes and content! Thanks for mentioning my plank contest! Come on over and join us everyone! :)
you're very welcome =) Love your initiative!
Great initiative, keep it up.
thank you @gguy773 =)
I think ultimately vegans are correct about the plants feeling pain not being a valid argument. However, to pretend we understand how their experience is derived neurologically is pretending to know something we do not know.
I personally believe plants are extremely intelligent, and do feel suffering as intensely as us. However, while I can live without animal products, I must consume plants to survive. That is the relevant factor.
If you say that ''vegans are correct about the plants feeling pain not being a valid argument'' and then that ''they feel suffering as intensely as us..'' it sounds like you are contradicting yourself.
Yes, plants are extremely intelligent, but there are various forms of intelligence in nature. In humans there is emotional, intellectual, biological, etc.
What is primitive/unintelligent is the blood shedding and deliberate torture of innocent beings at the hands of ''intellectual''beings, the human'kind'.
I am not contradicting myself, so I suspect it's not clear what I'm saying.
I suspect plants feel pain when harvested and consumed, but if I don't eat them I will die, so I will eat them anyway. Animals definitely feel pain when harvested (and even while being farmed) but I don't need to eat them to survive.
I did not choose to live in a world where I must kill to live, but I will choose to survive anyway while also attempting to minimize the inevitable suffering which results.
It'd be great if it turned out to be true that plants don't suffer, but it feels like we're kidding ourselves to claim to know for certain that they don't. We simply don't know that for sure, and my research leads me to believe they probably do.
I sure hope they don't suffer @cahlen. I'm not a scientist but from what I understand they can have defense systems and chemical reactions without actually being conscious...I don't know if plants are self aware. Maybe science will tell us more in the future.
I hope they don't either. However, science does not understand how biology generates conscious experience, and I suspect it never will.
Consider aliens coming upon a man with "locked in syndrome", where he can feel and sense his environment normally but is completely unable to act, speak, etc. They could burn him and measure his chemical response (which is similar to plants), but they may ultimately conclude he felt no pain because he did not protest, when in fact he felt it very intensely.
very true!!! good example
I understand what you're saying. Though I have no doubt plants have a powerful energy system, if I don't pick an apple to eat it, it will fall to the ground anyway. If I don't pick the grapes from the vine, they will wither anyway, same goes for lettuce, etc. If I don't 'pick' a cow, it most certainly will carry on living.
I don't believe fruits suffer. I'm talking about the plants themselves (i.e. eating leaves, roots, etc.).
I'm mostly fruitarian. I consider it a crime to harm the plants and trees themselves, not the leaves and fruits, but the mothers of all fruits.
For health reasons I can't digest roots so that's not even an issue for me. And we can do just fine without them. As for leaves, I consider them the edible part of a plant.
My diet is very limited thanks to celiac disease, but I am and look very healthy. People don't believe me when I tell them I have a chronic disease....I think knowing how to get all your nutrients is key.
Nice, I hope to move more in that direction, so it's good to hear you're maintaining good health.
What are the foods you eat the most of?
thanks for stopping by @cahlen btw =) Are you vegan or vegetarian?
Thanks @evecab! I was a raw vegan for a year, and a vegetarian several other times. I wasn't able to maintain health back then, but have more knowledge now, so am trying again.
However, I prefer not to use the labels because it's a bit messier than that. I prefer to just focus on minimizing harm, and that happens to align with vegan/vegetarianism most of the time.
That's great!!! I'm the same, I don't really fit in a label either, although vegan is what describes me the best I guess. I usually call myself cruelty free, although now with the plant topic maybe that's not true anymore LOL =) Anyways, who cares about labels, feel free to join our discord for more interesting discussions =)
Thank you, I'd be glad to join the Discord Channel. I use a different account now than when we were don't Sandbox. Are you able to send an invite link to my email address [email protected]?
sure! You can also just click on the discord logo at the bottom of the newsletter, but will send it
''Plants feel pain, too''... is becoming so obsolete. It's usually the cowards who don't want to hear the truth, choose to live in denial. These are the hopeless ones.
Btw, good job with the newsletter. I resteemed to spread the love <3
Thank you so much @mirella =) I'm glad you like it and thanks for the resteem!