Steemit inc have been creating most of the accounts on steem. In November they created over 80% of all new accounts and year to date they have claimed over 30% of new account creation tokens.
The level of new accounts created has dropped to an alarming level. Steemit Inc have laid off 70% of their staff and I don’t know if anyone is now responsible for this job in Steemit Inc.
We need to take some action now and I call out to the app owners, to those claimed account creation tokens and to @steemonboarding. Lets make this a priority.
Steem.com sign up page says there is a 1-2 weeks wait. Is this still true? Can we have this page changed. I have some suggestions in the video.
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I'm not sure it's bad for the ecosystem in the long run for Steemit Inc to play a less central role. Sure it's painful in the short term while other better account creation tools are created, but at the end of the day, we don't need a single centralized company creating everyone's accounts and contributing to the misconception that Steem = Steemit.
I create accounts for my friends and you should do the same!
It is bad because if new people don't come in , no one pays the bills. Don't you know how technology pyramids played out like , for example pets.com ?
Now any small dolphin could create an account.
So, the only need is to cooperate a little.
If you need an instant account for a friend, drop me a email at bugspirit[zero]@gmail.com with a desirable acc name
I'will sent you a private keys.
not really true. i am a dolphin with almost 10sp. it takes more than half my RCs to claim an account, and it takes a few days for these RCs to rebuild so I can only claim an account every few days.
Yes, It's like 5k SP to claim an account and 2 days to charge your RC. So 1 acc in a day for 10kSP.
365 new steemians in a year I'd call it a nice result )
I have a bunch of unused claimed accounts too. And don't know what to do with them.
Anyhow can I transfer them to somebody who may have a better use of them?
How do I create a new account without a phone number?
Someone with unused SP could create it for you directly into blockchain.
How do I do it? Is there a link?
https://github.com/emre/infestor
Soft that I use
Hi Paula Thank you very much for your work in creating these reports and more important sharing your gut feeling. On a personal level yesterday I added Steem as a payment on our wholesale business website. I also modified our contact form to make it more DTube friendly. It my particular case I have many long term relationships and 99% of the people are in their own business of some sort. So when I encourage any of them to either invest and /or spend time in being a quality member of a "newer platform" I have to be ready to back up with my personal time in showing how to purchase Steem etc. Just speaking for myself not as what I think other members of the DTube Global Commnuity should do. If you get a chance you will continue to see many other changes to our website during the next few days as we are getting ready for our 2019 new items, and coordination with agents around the World. I put some of this on my latest video this morning. Thanks again. Aloha from Hawaii Rich
this is brialliant, I too am moving my brand over to steem, best of luck, my 2019 be amazing
We accept steem on https://oneloveipfs.com . No SBD. Also we hope to have the subscriptions plugins for woocommerce/steem working by next month.
Its been at most about 1-2 days for me and some times same day when hitting that button for some dapps so it seems a little off. I am sure it either turns people off of the steem network by seeing that or simply they don't understand it. Having dapps do it would be nice we members deligate a good amount to some of these projects.
Thanks for raising the alarm.
Frankly this is a joke and prevents me from investing more in STEEM at the moment.
not a very funny joke...
It has been pointed out to me that maybe there is just low demand for accounts, however I think its more than that because I was expecting a few to sign up and there is no sign of them yet.
sign-up system has always been a ridiculous obstacle, and example of the huge failings of steemit in simple matters
SteeminviteBuildteam only 4.6 Steem and Voila.
About the rest...well, better don't talk.
Cheers!
Yo @paulag, solve the account problem with by @Pharesim if not just get in #SnapCmmentPlus
I completely forgot about steeminvite. Nice share, thanks
Welcome... by the way congrats for your Level 79! hahaha... Everything is so strange!!! Just dunno....
damn I am good, level 79. booyaaaa lol, im actually struggling to get off 69 lol...edit, just check I am 70 :-)
Yep I know..but was a mistake in Busy I see :) / Now it's fixed.. strange days over the chain!
Cheers
lol. i got confused until i read this one. Cheers, Leo.
Resteemed for visibility.
Where is @ned
It feels like we're on a burning cart rolling down hill and the driver abandoned ship a while back.
Can someone stroll to steemit HQ to see if that place is even still operational?
The captain doesn't disappear all of a sudden, even while sick, a one line post is more than enough assurance.
So true.
HF 20 made steemit inc less responsible for this. We don't need ned to fix this problem beside making some changes on the steem.com website
I will watch the video in a few hours. Resteemed.We have a couple of API services helping to onboard users. about 2 weeks ago, i created an account for a friend and it took only 24 hours to get it done. Last month, @matt-a helped me create 2 accounts for friends as well. We have a couple of accounts with large stakes. Maybe, if we could make the API process even clearer to people who aren't tech savvy like myself, it could become a responsibility of the entire community. I haven't watched your video yet due to data issues. So, i might not know about the solutions you are suggesting. But if we can get a different site apart from steemit.com to help onboard users (and then make it the community's responsibility), it could work. Steemit Inc's onboarding process is a joke.
I have the same issue when I created a account for my friend. It’s already 3 weeks now and nth have received
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really. I was also expecting a few people to have signed up and they have not yet, I wonder is it down to this. Very unfortunate. Lets hope we can do something here
My friend waited over 4 weeks, and left after 1. it takes forever, promises a lot, delivers nothing.#
It is what it is now, one huge circle jerk in decline!
As you say, there are plenty of claimed accounts already created, and being created daily. Turning them into created accounts merely requires a username and keys. However, that new account has zero SP so cannot do anything. The key here is to find those able and willing to delegate a minimum SP.
However, I was mulling this over and thought about how to do this in a way that is both helpful to the new user and to the whole onboarding process.
The existing platforms that take some beneficiary reward (BR) from their users could do this in a way that scales up. Let's assume a minimum of 20 SP delegated and that a platform takes 5% BR. A new user band can be created that has, for example, 7% BR; that 7% BR goes towards paying back the 20 SP. Once the 20 SP is paid back, the user has the option of requesting the delegated 20 SP to be undelegated. This only makes sense to them if they have already powered up more than this, so this also encourages to vest their earnings. Making it a request, rather than something that just disappears suddenly, places the responsibility on the user. Once the SP has been undelegated, the user gets the benefit of having just 5% BR.
At the end of this process, the platform has 40 SP and can onboard 2 new users, and so on.
Those new users who never make it to repay the 20 SP can keep it for a fixed number of months after which it is removed, or whatever arrangement the platform chooses. Some method is needed for those new users who make no effort to pay back the delegation.
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Hi, What is BR?
Beneficiary Rewards
Okay, thanks... With that, your suggestion becomes clearer and i think it makes a lot of sense. with Steem being this low, we get rewarded more. Should the community start-up a great support tag for these new users, A lot of them can pay off the 20SP in a very few posts. Worth implementing.
Thanks! I also edited my original comment to make it clearer.
Indeed, as you imply, any community (or individual) could implement this; just needs a bit of tracking of posts plus clear rules - and some spare SP to delegate initially.
I think I shall write a post on this - see if it gets more traction :-)
Yes its a good idea, will pop over to your post later to leave a more detailed comment
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Hi Paula, Rich again. Yesterday I mentioned my latest video. I did not include the screen shots in time, hit the submit button to soon. So I want to keep my credibility with you and will be doing an extensive video 5 with discussion and screen shots on the steem / and our shopping cart et cetera, Thanks, Rich
It kinda seems like common sense if we're looking to build numbers here, the sign up process should be simple. What do I know though :)
Looking good in the video @paulag, rockin' the haircut by the way ... oh, and the planks :)
Getting the hair done now for christmas , it will be even nicer later 😁
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Hi Paula. As far as I am aware, @steemonboarding is not actually intending to handle the process of creating accounts - they are primarily focusing on education. @steempassport, which is a project I started at the same time as @steemonboarding, is the technical project intending to facilitate the process of actually creating accounts for free on a large scale. There are other groups doing this in various ways too. @steempassport is in the early stages, but I intend to have a design document ready before the end of the year that can be used to start building software right away.
I thought one idea of HF20 was to get rid of any delay to receiving an account on Steem... 💭 So either it does not work or the demand for accounts is too big. Guess it doesnt work... 😔 @peekbit
Doesnt work sounds more like it
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yes... and @steembasicincome did a strange reset - so no reasonable upvotes any more the last time. Lot of things go wrong on STEEM 😔 But at least in 2019 it should work again... we'll see... I'm still optimistic ☺️
Your SBI should be back to normal by now.
👍🏼 thank you @steembasicincome 😊 @peekbit
I didnt even notice it was not normal 😁
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Automated system was released last weekend. There were a few days of disruption. Some people were affected more than others, as the upvoting bonuses were changed.
It previously favored a high SBI/SP ratio, and now it does not. We prefer to encourage members to keep a healthy balance between the two.
Of course it's a good idea 👍🏼 So can you tell me the optimal SBI/SP ratio you consider for the maximum payout? And how to calculate the payout if it's not a proportional function..
Hello @steembasisoncome Thank you 😊 @peekbit
I was waiting for this 1-2 weeks period, it took too long. So then I decided to sign up by paying through blocktrades. Now it has been a few days that I have an account with 100 steem tokens, but no ability to vote at all. "voter.voting_manabar.current_mana > 0: Account does not have enough mana to vote." . Not only that the sign up process was not easy, I can't imagine most of my friends being able to do it.
It's the sad truth! We personally aren't big Steem onboarders as we don't like to push people, but Becca's sister was interested and created an account. It took over 3 weeks to come through and by that point, she lost the excitement and interest. She did a few posts (3-4) over a two week period and with the RC situation, she gave up as she couldn't interact and also found formating the post difficult... She was using Steemit, even though we stated that there were other interfaces to work with like SteemPeak. Most of us are fortunate to join when we can comment and do whatever we like as much as we like on Steem, but I do understand the new restrictions (prevents spamming and that there is a cost per action), yet its harder for newbies. They need at least 100SP to interact within means.
I do agree that communities that on boards a new Steemian could help out in terms of Steem, delegations and acting like a mentor. There will be some that come and go and it will be annoying that you invested time and money on them, but the potential of finding that rare creatively different content creator or effective community builder that can expand and network further to bring in many more might just happen. It's a long shot, but all options are on the table.
#snapfeedback
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There will always be churn, thats not the issue and i for one have experienced this with people i have delegated too, but its still worth it when i see how far others that stuck around have done
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I am surprised to see this trend as I had thought that one of the benefits of HF20 was to enable a more automated process for account creation. While unfortunate, I think it will also be an interesting time to evaluate how those that are onboarding are doing with retaining new users or supporting their engagement as they start in thr ecosystem. We still have to solve for RC delegation pools but the data may show some different trends given that Steemit is no longer in the mix (or to a lesser extent).
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Agreed, no point in creating account and not having a onboarding process, although many of us here had signed up and were then picked up by a community after and onboarded that way
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Thank you for this very important information, I hope the right people see this. As this needs to be addressed immediately.
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the faster we address it, the less of a problem it becomes
the same for me, nothing for more than one month, I don't even know how to create a free account for a friend, but I know that we can create that with money, but why never for free ? Anyway, I hope someone will fix that .... .
I will make a video and show you how to claim accounts, the problem then is, these accounts still need delegation to transact
We current steemians can be a little bit generous to delegate friends. Waiting for your video.
I just read about steeminvite and buildteam. They seem to be popular and are working. I've never used them before.
both are not free
are the needs of hour. I have tried bringing my friends to blockchain. And most of them got discouraged by the response from steemit.
Is there a way to make registration instantaneous?
People being discourages seems to be a common occurance
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Remember the days before hf20? When everybody praised RC as the new messiah and how easy and effortless it will be to on-board millions of new users?
Haha..
Good laughs we had since then.
RC just made it worse. Delegation is still required, even more. And small acoounts like me can just create new ones by burning steem.
Yeah, thanks for nothing.
I hear ya
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Thanks for keep it up :D you are really awesome!!!
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you are welcome
Resteem.
thanks
Perhaps this is in parallel with the reduced interest in Crypto following the bear run?
But 2081 accounts over a month sounds drastically low. Scary even. In any case, Steemit is again doing a very very bad job at what they set out to do and as users wanting to onboard other users can start to introduce alternatives. I am aware of a few projects now running instant onboarding process and i'll try to list them out.
@Steemhunt @steemonboarding @share2steem
I do agree there is probably less demand, but really that much less? It would be nice to have the information and if there is no problem steemit inc should let us know, but lol thats not their priority
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I agree with you on that. Which is why as you said it's so important to find other methods of fast on boarding of steem users.
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Secondly, let us try to write more articles that will help educate the general public about steem and crypto.Each dedicated user advt. Steemit through social media by using steem images as background image or profile image. This way, we can make a difference, at least a small one. #promosteem
Why I wrote this?
I had asked my son to invite his college mates over to steem and some of them did apply but the waiting period put them off, sadly. If only they had known what a great community this is.
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So happy to hear you are inviting people and sorry to hear about the waiting period. I hope we can fix this problem soon
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I'm claiming some accounts that I hope to give away. We could do with a good 'how to' guide on what to do. That should include how to claim an account, what details you need to pass to the new user and how they should change their keys. Does this exist anywhere?
You can do all of this from steemworld.org, i just need to make some time to make a video on it 😀
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I've not seen much about how to do this, so a video would be great
Have you heard of the @steempassport project? It was announced in The Ramble discord a few days ago.
https://steemit.com/steempassport/@steempassport/a-video-introduction-to-steempassport-a-new-project-to-decentralise-account-creation-and-onboarding-for-the-steem-eco-system
Oh nice share, hadnt heard of it till now
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Thank you for this update news. I was not aware that Steemit had laid of workers. I suppose Steemit is trying to save by cutting their overheads. Its sad to hear this news Paulag especially with Christmas seasons now next week.
Yes its a hard time for many, i remember being in the position of letting people go and its really not nice
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I support your opinion，It took me almost three weeks to got my first steem account， When I received the email I was so happy I didn't give up. But when I registered for my friend, It took more more days.
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this is not good for first impressions
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STOP1-2 week sign up or pay to sign up is a big turn down
tell me about it
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Going the free route does take time to get an account. I've had friends that join take 3 days to 2 weeks to get their login details. Though I remind people more blocktrades can create accounts instantly and I hear steemmonsters can create accounts too.
#snappluscomment
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There is loads of options, the problem is steem.com links to very few of them
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@paulag yeah it would be nice if they suggested other options and maybe a link to other options for faster account creation.
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I wish steem was a meritocracy rather than being controlled by money (steem). Mainatream is already controlled by money if that is what we want.