1.) I've stopped auto-voting on them, but since the proposal isn't funded yet and the infrastructure costs are still going, I've voted them manually, fully well knowing that they will be downvoted, so the initial vote was higher than before to combat it.
2.) You're being ignorant if the only thing you're seeing are automated posts. It's not about them being automated, it's about where the rewards are going. And clearly, they're going into a project that brings value to Hive.
Real Talk
I hope, that I'm not too rude or annoying right now, but I'm feeling quite lost for seeing a witness acting in this way.
So because I'm a block producer, I can't give you some of the same downvote sauce back, that you so ignorantly put on my posts, because they're automated?!
If I wanted to abuse the reward pool, I would do it completely different, as so many ppl are already doing. Like, start posting some of those nice ai-generated/ google-translated posts into GEMs or OCDB categories? Would that be okay, since they're not "automated"? I would also promise to use @reward.app and sell those rewards right when they come in, instead of hodling it..
But because I'm transparently posting automated posts by a project I've built and upvote them WITH MY OWN STAKE after a day of waiting time, with the goal to use those rewards FOR the project, as it has REAL ONGOING COSTS, its okay to downvote it or create hate-speech against it?
THAT is one of the biggest reasons why the global rewards pool is so damn stupid to work with. If I would farm my own posts 10x per day, I could understand people going against it, but ONCE per day for a project that actually brings value to Hive WITH MY OWN STAKE?!
And @acidyo, why does it matter how much HIVE I have? This is about principles. If I can't even upvote a project of mine ONCE per day WITH MY OWN STAKE without the downvote police coming along, harassing me and questioning my morality, then what the fuck are we doing here?
I think you're underestimating the effort and work curators put in not to reward your idea of abusing the rewardpool, it's true some may go undetected for some time and having to deal with assholes running hivewatchers who are supposed to help with that is also a pain, but yeah it's definitely an attack vector if big stakeholders actively attempt to do that and when found out can just plead ignorance and that they didn't know it was ai-generated/etc. There you may start noticing a pattern though and your reputation can quickly go down the drain.
Anyway, like I said I wasn't really talking about you and automated posts aren't completely worthless or not worthy of rewards depending on how they're used. I hope your proposal gets supported and many others use that gateway instead of the rewardpool for such things. We'd need an easier entry point for that into getting funded though cause right now it seems close to impossible - like why is dapplr still not being funded after all the proof and usability of their work and dapp they've already shown us.
and ehh, why does how much stake matter, i mean, i've seen you use it to reason that your opinions should have more weight about the future of the platform and your proposed changes, so I don't see anything wrong with pointing out that you have a lot of stake so not sure why you bother voting up those posts to pay a fraction of the costs of hivedapps. Hivedapps is not just helping everyone else but your own stake as well, it would seem in your best interest to also keep it up to help the value of your stake instead of trying to also make up for that "cost". I realize there's many using the pool and proposals for their own projects so they don't have any costs associated with it and I'm not a big fan of that personally. At some point, with a certain amount of stake you should be okay to pay for some things from own pocket that help hive, if people were less ROI focused the platform would be a much better place imo. Now again this isn't just about you, but think about it, if @freedom would focus on growing the value of his stake by trailing or delegating it more diversely to bring hive to new heights he could afford losing a couple % of ROI. Instead we're so focused on the rewardpool that we're literally gambling on other blockchains surpassing us and doing what we do better because we keep pointing and comparing with others and avoid doing the work or sacrifice it would take to bring help the platform. The higher the stake you own the bigger should be your incentive to help hive, keep building, keep spending some hive and not keep comparing with others or try and outperform them. Some will just maximize and abuse no matter if hive makes it or doesn't, only thing that'll matter is what people think you did. At least personally I'm going to care if I was on the side that helped hive succeed or tried or if I was on the side who made a lot of stake and then went passive and hoped others would take care of the rest.
Anyway, chill a bit man, you seem a bit overly stressed lately through your posts and comments. Don't let the markets affect you too much, hive is hive, it's so different from other cryptos and even tho some look at the lack of movement in price and think it'll be our undoing, others realize it may lag behind in movement due to the way it's distributed and speculators won't push the price up if there's people selling at any price. What some think is something wrong with it will be what sets it aside from the rest, on top of that social media is way harder to get right and needs a lot bigger userbase until it starts seeing some real change in value and onboarding. There's a lot of competition out there but most lack our experience, growth, fairness, distribution and investment not just monetary but sweat equity and the potential they see in it. We've come a long way and the platform is better than it ever was.
Memes aside, I approve that. Covers a lot way better than my mega comment. Sorry, @therealwolf, read this first. 😅😂
May be we can all take a step back and think this through @therealwolf. I think you have muted me, so maybe what I write does not matter. But still since I made the comment on your automated posts, it is my duty to try and put some reasoning into this discussion.
Question of morality comes in only because it is a social network. You are a block producer, you are asking the community to vote you. Right?
You made a proposal. You are asking community to support you. Right? Why don’t you ask it nicely? Because if the community don’t like your morality they may choose not to vote your witness, or your proposal.
Nobody cares what you do with your stake/money until it harms something. If you had some disposable income nobody cares what you do in your island. But if you come outside and asking people for something, may I please recommend to ask nicely. If you make a proper case the community might support your proposal. Why don’t you lobby for it?