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It just makes him seem angry and confused. I didn't down vote him but someone will if he keeps on like that. I like that you and I can discuss things civilly.

fuck downvotes. Stupiedest part of steem by leaps and bounds. We should be building people up and catalyzing voluntary association not breaking them down and letting mal contents run wild to harm others arbitrarily.

Idk if ad hominems are necesarily incivil, still using words i'd say is civil. But no point to not keep it to logic. I want to facilitate discussion that realizes truth, not hurts and intimidates people and makes them fear to speak their mind.