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RE: The HIVE FREEDOM PROXY: Over $1.7M Worth of Hive Witness Votes Available For Serious Free Speech Witnesses.

in #witness3 years ago

I think you're just lumping me into a pile and expecting me to be like those who you feel act that way towards you.

This is a post about the emotive situation on hive at present and your tone in this context causes you to merge with those doing the nuking. I am not saying you are doing it or agreeing with it, but you are taking up a lot of mindspace in this area so at best it seems like derailment in some senses.

I've become so incredibly bored with platform politics, and that's what this post is.

Fair enough, it's understandable, but the nature of this platform is such that internal politics will continue to be a major issue until things evolve significantly (maybe). We either have to carve a space through such processes and stand a chance of greatness for all - or we dive back into the mediocrity of Web 2.0 (or we just don't get involved with online communication much at all).

An internal memo making top dollar, like usual, while something like the best singer here today for instance not even being heard.

I actually work with artists and make music - so I understand. At the same time the reason this post is high in the trending is because it is attempting to gather focus to make shifts that serve everyone, including the artists - in the long term. I assure you that this post will probably have zero rewards on it's 6th day.

if I downvote this, you'll spin it around on me and act like I'm attempting to silence you.

all of my posts are likely to be zeroed regardless of what you do - so while your downvote wouldn't make much difference, it would be logical to conclude that in the midst of such a situation - which you are aware of, a downvote would be a thumbs up to the general gist of nuking the account. much more downvotes are guaranteed on this post than you can add.

WHAT IF those folks downvoting you simply feel it's overrewarded. I don't think you'd accept that as a valid reason and carry on acting like your speech is being suppressed.

They have mostly made clear that the downvoting is due to disagreement over science and understanding of health. They claim the posts are 'dangerous' while presenting zero evidence. All this really says to the community is that Hive is not a place to share scientific info/data and understanding. Since science is literally the open quest for truth, this effectively says that hive is not a place for truth. This is a terrible image to present to the world. This is NOT about a disagreement over the level of rewards, first and foremost - that is just a convenient cover to spin to those who don't look closely enough. I appreciate that there isn't much public evidence to look at, because the downvoters are usually careful to say as little as possible to demonstrate any intent at all - but it exists.

I feel your list of those who support freedom in this context is far too short. Maybe you wanted to narrow it down to witnesses you like but for the most part, the glaring majority of people here past present and future I can guarantee are proponents of free speech,

As I explained, I don't know enough about all of the witnesses to have a full 30 votes at present. My standards for respect for freedom of speech and free will are higher than most peoples. I have studied this topic for a long time and I know that most people have not and so are not seeing things as I see them. Denial of free will is all around, dressed up and normalised as being something else. We have to track cause and effect right throughout complex systems to know what is really going on - this is what I have done for decades professionally and.. well, just constantly for as long as I can remember. Most have not really started in this.

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Why not simply work on solutions? I've already spent enough time in the past not only experiencing and dealing with being handed the shitty end of the stick but also talking with people under their posts, offering potential solutions, literally wasting my time with several people who seemingly only want to yap about the problems and make a scene. Other times I felt like we gained some ground, but still went nowhere. Then it comes up again and again and again and again. All talk, no action. So I'm bored of it now. And I'm certainly not going to waste time retyping everything I've already said about this stuff, including the potential solutions I've offered. Pretty sure I'm already voting for majority of the people you list here and respect several more. Even voted for your witness at one point but not these days.

These platform politics though and the way things are framed, creating the great divide, then expecting change, when that change involves everyone to be working together and on the same page, go nowhere, because of the created divisions.

So whatever. Since the platform politics are now boring and unproductive, I suppose I'll just ignore the next edition of this post, since I expect to see several more of the same events, going on forever and leading nowhere. Prove me wrong.