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RE: What I should have said was: "Shut Your Piehole, Redneck! "

in #writing9 years ago (edited)

While I find the "redneck's" behavior boorish, embarrassing and inappropriate there really isn't anything that can be done. Last time I checked there aren't any oodling and/or inappropriate comment laws in this country (I gather you are in the US). Unfortunately there is that percentage of the population that will always make your eyes roll. Be thankful that we live in a place that still (or at least for the moment) that allows for all expressions of thought and expression. Now if he actually harassed her that is a wholly different story.

The reason we need freedom of speech is not to protect popular speech but to protect unpopular speech.

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  1. not from the us.
  2. i completely disagree. "unpopular" speech is one, being an asshole is another one.

And, to agree with you. YES, it ws my right to say he is an asshole too, right? Or to say that this kind of comments are disgusting and to vent his frustration somewhere else.

All I'm saying, and sincerely it's a funny story not meant to be moralistic is that as society will respond to this kind of comment, they will die out. Even assholes feel shame. Right now, they feel good about it.

It is not about freedom of speech, it's about creating a comfortable space for everyone to feel good in.
I don't care that you're horny and would "totally hit that yeah woo hoo", just don't vocalize this.

Okay not from US, cool.

Anyway, absolutely your right to call him an asshole. On that point I heartily agree but I think you missed my point about unpopular speech. If only popular speech were allowed everybody would lose freedom. That is how totalitarian governments operate and/or begin. And it doesn't begin with larger issues. It is called the slippery slope. Once you start not allowing smaller issues of free speech the people lose a little more freedom. Even "common sense" measures of suppressing speech is a terrible idea because once you start restricting speech for the good of the people it's hard to stop and before you know it more and more speech is restricted. That is why all forms of speech should be protected. The good, bad and ugly.

Safe spaces, etc are in essence restricting speech and can lead to more restrictions of speech and thought.

Well, I don;'t know that I did. I understood your point and sincerely agree with it.

You can say that Trump is good for example I won't hit you.

But calling someone an asshole, faggot, nigger are this OK now so we don't stump the feeble freedome of speech? I don't think so.

Those words are on their way out. Is this an example of totalitarianism?
I think not, it's an example of a society regulating itself.

That's my point I guess.

And that's the problem. You call freedom of speech, feeble. It is one of the precious thing a most things people can have. Should people say the above words, no. But they should have every right to. Whats next, dick, queer and black? And while we are at it you are no longer to express views that you local government find distasteful and if not you will be taken to your local re-education centers, gulags and concentration camps circa the Soviets, Nazis and North Koreans.