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RE: Idolatry, what is it?

in #yeshua6 years ago

Not coming on to be devisive. Please don't take this the wrong way...but i have a question. Is this statement not a complete contradiction in and of itself:

"The only parts of the law Yeshua has fulfilled that no longer apply to us as His followers are the laws of sacrifice and the kosher laws. All His commandments stand and none of them will ever pass! And He even stated this regarding them, (Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments; )."

Are you saying you follow all the commandments? All but two is not ALL though. Does not Paul tell us we are to be "living sacrifices?" And if we keep eating unclean food contrary to God's Instruction, because we just like it too much... is this not idolotry?

Doesn't The Word of God tell us that "All fall short?" Are you implying in this article that you follow every command perfectly? If we consider ourselves to be following every commandment perfectly... wouldn't that be believing we can be "As God?"

Whether a Brother or a Sister...shouldn't we all be very careful about pointing out the specks in our Brothers and Sisters eyes publicly? If we condemn, will we not be comdemned? If we judge, and not in righteousness, will we not be judged by the same measure?

Thank you for the article. It was a thought provoking read. Again, please don't think i am judging or trying to be divisive. They are honest questions. I know we are all searching for The Truth. God Bless and thank you for taking time to write about The Name Above All Names.
Sincerely,
Servant of Yeshua 7

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The commandments are not a part of the sacrificial law nor the kosher law and vice versa! Yeshua fulfilled the sacrificial law and if you were to keep these that would mean you reject what Yeshua did for us on the cross!!!
Also the kosher law He did away with when He declared not only the gentiles as clean but also the foods that they eat! If you keep the kosher laws you also reject His Word!!!
And yes I do follow all His commandments as He requires us to do so! He also told us that the law and the prophets are fulfilled in these two, love the Lord your God with ALL your heart and ALL your mind and ALL your strength and secondly love your neighbour as yourself! Keeping these two you keep ALL His commandments as no one who truly loves God will offend Him in any way, but by disobeying Him and His commandments you do do so and you prove the opposite to be true! Hence why Yeshua said, "if you love Me, keep My commandments! And yes we all fall short of His glory but that should not deter us from being like Him as He wishes us to be! To make excuses and say you are a sinner anyway is just another form of self deception and it is what you use to justify your continuing in sin! (Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,) You clearly know all the justifications for the self deception to enable yourself to continue in that sin as you also bring up the speck in the brother's eye parable which you clearly do not understand! This parable is aimed at those who whilst still living in sin and contrary to God's commandments are judging sin in their brothers and sisters who also sin! As one who knows Yeshua, you should no longer be living in sin of any sort so that you can point out those specks in your brother's and sister's eyes! God's reproof and correction always begins with His own house and only those who are a part of His house will be judged in this manner as it is done out of love so that you may be reproved in your sin and corrected so that you live in obedience to God's will. It is the whole point of Yeshua's sacrifice for us so that we may be reconciliated to Him! (2Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,) For those not wishing God's reproof and correction there is no hope, no sacrifice remains! (Proverbs 15:10 Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.) God's Word says it all, know it well and you will know Him well and His will for you! We are to judge each other, not unto condemnation but unto the perfecting of us into the likeness of Yeshua! The judge not lest you be judged verse is often used by people who feel judged in their sin whereas a true follower of Yeshua will see reproof and correction and will love God for this whether it comes through His Holy Spirit or His Word or through a brother or sister in the faith! Those not willing to accept it have no hope of ever becoming like Yeshua which is the ultimate intention of God, that we all conform to the image of His Son! God bless you too.

I understand your perspective. I thank you for the thorough response. I myself try to follow as many commandments as possible, discipline myself to continually follow more, and encourage others to follow commandments as well. With that said, i do understand how much i have been forgiven, so i love much as the woman in Luke 7. I think you may be mistaken about the sacrificial system and the unclean animals being food. Kosher is not in The Bible, that is talmud. God calls clean things clean and unclean things unclean for a reason. All the animals Father names as unclean, Our Father makes clear, shouldn't be eaten. If our bodies are the temple of The Holy Spirit, why would we suddenly be told to eat things that God put here as the world's natural garbage disposals and have been proven above all things to cause disease and sickness when eaten. Also, God offers that sheet 3 times to Peter and each time he says no ... and even said he would not transgress against God. He still never ate those unclean animals after and i think The Word makes it very clear that the vision was about the roman soldiers. God says He will clean gentiles in His Word, not pigs and snakes and the such. He just doesn't contradict himself. The apostles still didn't eat this food unless they thought it would seriously make a Brother or Sister stumble, would do so out of love, and then go back inmediately to avoiding these animals... becaus they are not food. They kept things simple and easy to understand until the point they could tell them to eat clean as well. Unclean does not mean bad, it just means not food. These animals had a function, but it was not to be eaten... it was to clean the dead things and waste from the earth. Think about it... a pig is a garbage disposal. Do a small study and you will see that bacteria can not be cooked of it, it stores disease and bacteria in it's fat, and been 100% proven to cause cancer. The unclean animals cause disease and death when eaten. He told us for our own good, not His. With the sacrifical laws... I thank God it is in effect. If it weren't... Jesus would have died for nothing. The fact that the sacrifical law is in effect is the only reason Yeshua's Blood covers us. There can be no forgiveness of sins without the shedding blood... this is sacrificial law. While we don't have to sacrifice anything ourselves... like goats or red heifers... but because it is in effect ... our sins are forgiven by the blood of Yeshua Ha'Mashiac. A strong point i would like to make is that Yeshua said "not one jot and not one tittle will be removed." I think we should listen to Him more closely than anyone. I encourage you to season your words with salt Brother, love much, and be careful yourself about rejecting God's Word. The Word never says that we can eat anything we want. You are adding that. He says not to call unclean what he calls clean, he was talking about the soldiers and specifically points this out. The word says nothing about the food, only gentiles. He wouldn't have called those animals unclean in the first place if He was going to change it, because we know He is the same today, yesterday, and forever. If you argue with that you are arguing with God's Word and no one else. You should take some time with Luke 7. We are to help each other, encourage each other, and prove what we say is Truth. We are not called to point fingers at those who haven't come to full understanding. We are to be "wise as serpents, and gentle as doves" helping point them to Truth, not be clanging symbols on public platforms condemning others to hell. We are suppose to "Feed His Sheep" not be the angry servant beating slaves when The Master comes back. I pray you take some time with these subjects and test them to see if they are Truth. And indeed, I know exactly what the scripture about the plank and the splinter is about. You have proven that point with your words as they are a witness against you. Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions, but i do not believe you have judged correctly. God Bless and may Yahweh Yeshua Ha'Mashiach continue to work in your life. Blessed be Our Father and Lord and Savior Yeshua, Jesus Christ. Ultimately He will be The One to clear up many of these issues because there are many agent provocateurs out there propagating them very hard. I pray you find the correct answer or can set me straight via His Word... not man's... and not adding or taking away The Truth of The Scripture. Being that I have been studying for 3 years with Yeshua Following, Native Hebrew Speaking, and God Honoring Bible Followers... I believe we have found The Truth of the matter... In Hebrew... and in application. God Bless. Sincerely, Servant of Yeshua 7

I think you have quite a lot of reading to do! The sacrificial law and the kosher law are most definitely in the Bible. As for the talmud, it is satan's book just as the koran it contains the very same things and has nothing of God in it only evil and deception and I would never even be tempted to read it as the little from it I did shocked me to the core in its evil!
You will find the kosher law along with the sacrificial law embedded in the first 5 books of the Bible.
If you say you have love for people then why not tell them the Truth? God is love yes, but He is also our Judge and judge He will. False prophets will only foretell good weather and happy tidings but this is NOT the Truth. If you think I beat the fellow servants then let it be so because God knows I do it out of true love and in obedience to His Holy Spirit and His Word. Telling people the Truth is true love, telling them lies is of satan! Yeshua most definitely declared all food clean at the same time He declared the gentiles clean! To keep to the kosher laws after that you have been saved is rejecting what Yeshua did to include the gentiles! We have freedom in Yeshua and if you read Paul's letters at all you would know this! We are permitted all but not all is beneficial and when he said this he was talking specifically about food! The guiding comments was to teach us diplomacy regarding food eaten by the gentiles! When Yeshua declared the non kosher foods clean they were clean, that simple! He commands it and it is so! Denying it you deny Yeshua as He is the Word of God! I'm also a Jew and speak ancient Hebrew and ancient Greek so trying to qualify yourself as being better than me at reading God's Word falls on deaf ears as truth is revealed and not learnt! You cannot study God's Word and know Him. He has to reveal Himself to you and He is the Word.(John 1:1) If you wish to be corrected as you say in Truth than do so, don't give me lip service, do it! Only those with ears to hear will hear! God reads your heart and if you are sincere about wanting to be corrected than fine but if not God knows what's in your heart and if you reject correction because of pride and arrogance you condemn yourself. The pride in your writing shines through as you condemn me for what you consider to be wrong. What I have, I have received from the Holy Spirit by God's Word and as I said before truth cannot be learnt, it is revealed! If you know Yeshua at all you also know this to be true! If you do not think it is true you do not know Him. From your writings it is obvious you consider me to be one of those provocateurs you mention! I get that a lot as it is a side effect of telling the Truth as per God's Word and by His Holy Spirit! Many people reject it as they aim to find their own version of the "truth". That is why I said that this is and equals idolatry! You can either hear the truth or you can't. Yeshua is the Truth and only those who are His will hear! God bless you and I pray He reveals to your heart the Truth!

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