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RE: Anarchy is Common Sense. Nature is Property.

in #anarchy7 years ago

we have examples of societies where security is provided by competing firms, Mexico for example.

Lol. Mexico is nowhere near a free market, private law society. Cartels work within the protection of the corrupt state.

When dawn defense does not honor its contract with Alice what is her recourse?

Court.

So random corporations are able to arbitrarily enslave people in this utopia, sounds great.

You mean like they do now? Try again, Fun Bobby.

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The cartels are the state in Mexico, when there is one main cartel (which is usually or always the result of the CIA supporting that cartel) then the violent crime in Mexico is much less. When Carlos Guzman, a man who at one time had 500,000 employees, loses control then a bunch of cartels all compete for market share and the violence goes way up.

We see the same thing anywhere the state loses control, violent gangs always arise. Places in America where we can see exactly how competing security firms operate in real life include neighborhoods in Baltimore and Chicago and St. Louis. These firms are called the Crips and the Bloods and many others. Chicago has something like 100 competing security firms and it is a bloodbath.

LOL Court? there was no court, only private mediators, but why would dawn defense even bother to engage with the mediator Alice hires, assuming Alice has the money?

No, I don't mean like they do now, the solution offered in your video was actual slavery not the tax slavery that we hear so much crying about. Real slavery, if you don't pay AT&T they shut your phone off and send you a bill, dawn defense was going to enslave Bill in a workhouse.
Of course if I was dawn defense I would always find bill guilty, in fact I might find everyone who can't afford their private security bill guilty of some crime and then enslave them, and there wouldn't be a damned thing they could do about it. But of course Bill didn't turn out to be a productive slave, a shitty worker not worth his salt, so in that case we just decapitate bill and use him as fertilizer, right?

You yourself just admitted the cartel is supported by the state.

No, I said "the cartels are the state in Mexico", it's the opposite, the state is supported by the cartel.

which is usually or always the result of the CIA supporting that cartel)

a situation that we do not have at the present, at present we have dueling security agencies slaughtering people all over the country. An anarchist utopia.

We could go on like this for days.

Do you think stealing is wrong?

If so, we agree foundationally.

I don't believe taxes are stealing nor are they slavery. So there is where we part ways.

Can you define stealing for me, then?

Not sufficiently, it's not really a legal term, I could define "theft" for you in most states. I would define theft as taking something in an unlawful manner without force.