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I was tempted to put in a comment in there that I was NOT trying to say that the authors of "The Bell Curve" are the authoritarian excuse-makers I was talking about.

There is no need to. Everybody who listens to Charles Murray knows that he is not an authoritarian.
I'm a teacher in Germany. My students come from all over the world. At the moment I have lots of refugees from Afghanistan and Africa. I have read the Bell Curve a long time ago.
But I'm also saying so what?. Should I give them lower grades, because statistics say, that they are not as intelligent as Europeans?
Of course not! They get their grades based on their achievements and not based on their skin color.
These kids have managed to come from Afghanistan to Germany, mostly by foot and have managed to cross borders without getting caught.
If they would be idiots, they wouldn't have managed to do this.
And besides that, these kids have a very freedom loving mindset. They have seen by themselves, how governments have fucked up their countries.
You don't have to tell them that governments are the problem and not the solution.

There is also the serious difference, these people have never trusted the governments. The trust was in the families and the surrounding environment created. When I was allowed to spend six years in this culture before the first Iraq war, I could clearly feel the distrust of their rulers.

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But aren't the US a proof, that not even the best constitution can't protect you from corrupt politicians.
You Americans still have much more freedom than we Europeans, but as far as I can see your freedom gets more and more restricted.

One needs 12 years of indoctrination camp to over-complicate what a 3yo already starts understanding, like that. You have no idea how ridiculous this sounds to anyone who is not in your cult. How often do you have to repeat this to yourself, praying to your masters? Iceland is so great? People thought they were a collective, not individuals, therefore a majority can gang-rape, a minority and this is not being confused, because majority is hallucinating this to be moral? How about you visit me and I and my buddy force you to pay for the pizza, when you want a burger? If you refuse we will decide how long to lock you up in a room. We can beat you up whenever we want. You do not get basics of peaceful coexistence. This is why you think this convoluted nonsense is logic. Dumb shit always seems like logic, to people who were trained not to get logic

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