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RE: KYC and AML are Good - Yum

in #bitcoin6 years ago

I understand why they want KYC and AML but at the same time, I feel like Governments are the biggest thieves out there. Governments are generally run by people who only look out for themselves and their political party rather than for the people they were elected to represent. If we truly want our freedoms back, investing in cryptocurrencies is not enough. We need to eject all of our paid officials and make governance a volunteer position (then watch all the rats abandon the ship!) Once we stop the biggest thieves, the little ones won't be so intolerable. There will always be those who would rather break the law than work within it, so whatever system prevails, there will be bad apples. Catch them if you can and deal with them. Now, if we had honest Governments, we would no longer have a NEED to worry about our Government knowing how much we have in crypto-assets and KYC wouldn't be a thing any more!

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Dear @happyme

I understand why they want KYC and AML but at the same time, I feel like Governments are the biggest thieves out there.

We share similar feeling :) To some degree. If gov would keep money to themselfs, then we could call them thieves. But in general majority of money raised by taxes / money printed etc. are being redistributed by our goverments.

Governments are generally run by people who only look out for themselves and their political party rather than for the people they were elected to represent.

Not 100%.

Goverments consist of people who are politicians and most of them are the way you described them. But goverment = also thousands of people who do dirty work "behind the sceenes". Wouldn't you agree?

Saying that everyone who is part of goverment is evil is not always right. We need to remember that politicians care about votes in the first place. So pleasing their voters is their agenda. So more often than not - their decisions will help their own supporters.

Cheers
Piotr

If gov would keep money to themselfs, then we could call them thieves

It is worse than that! Government is the entity that is comprised of several people. They don't just keep the money in that entity, it actually goes beyond that and goes into the pockets of the individuals that make up the governing party and their supporters, influencers and friends!

But goverment = also thousands of people who do dirty work "behind the sceenes". Wouldn't you agree?

Those people working and doing the grunt work are usually EMPLOYEES of the Government. They do not constitute the Government themselves.

Of course there will always be exceptions, but the general majority is as I described them. There is too much corruption there.

So pleasing their voters is their agenda. So more often than not - their decisions will help their own supporters.

I don't know about the politicians in your country, but I have not seen any benefit to the voters in this country or its neighbour. We are all slaves of the Government, despite slavery being considered illegal. Sure, they throw us a bone once in a while to make it look like they are being nice to us, but in the end, we are still slaves.

Dear @happyme

BIG THX for your reply. I very much appreciate your time and effort and I'm grateful that you're sharing your thoughts with me.

Those people working and doing the grunt work are usually EMPLOYEES of the Government. They do not constitute the Government themselves.

I'm not sure about it. People do not seem to differenciate EMPLYESS of the Goverment and goverment itself. Because the reality is that even Prime minister is an emplyee of the Goverment.

From my experience people complain that "goverment" is making their life difficult even if they deal with low-positioned tax officer sitting in goverment office.

That's my impression so far.

I don't know about the politicians in your country, but I have not seen any benefit to the voters in this country or its neighbour.

Politics is always very close to "buying" votes. Pleasing voters is something all of them do. But it it just like you said: just a bone.

Yours
Piotr

You may be correct about people's impressions about government employees, but that does not make their impression correct. I was a government employee myself, and I can assure you that the employees have less influence on what happens as far as legislation than anyone else. Those in power seem to think that the employees know nothing and that the elected leaders are the ones who know everything (or at least that is the perception they give in order to hold all the power and make the rules to suit themselves).

Dear @happyme

You were government employee? you mind sharing with me what sort of job did you do?

employees have less influence on what happens as far as legislation than anyone else.

I believe you.

Zours
Pitr

I worked for a crown corporation (they have nothing to do with running the country, but it is a government operation that is funded by taxpayers).

My point was simply to say that not all government employees have a hand in what is being decided by the politicians. In fact, the company bosses listened more to outsiders than those who actually worked within the company. Lots of employees provided input as to how to make the job better/more efficient/safer, etc. however practically none of the suggestions (if any at all) were ever implemented. However, when an outside contractor or consultant said something, the bosses listened and often acted on it; sometimes with terrible results! It was very frustrating.

As far as legislation: We had absolutely no input there at all.

Politics is always very close to "buying" votes. Pleasing voters is something all of them do. But it it just like you said: just a bone.

These days they don't even need to "buy" votes. They manipulate social media and the press so that "public opinion" is moved by brainwashing and other psychological manipulations. It is all trickery of the less educated and even some of the more educated into believing that their party is the one you SHOULD vote for. It is not always done by pleasing the public, but also by creating fear that if the other party gets in, something bad will happen.