I rather suspect thealliance is not the only place you have experienced that.
Nope, I also have issue with the SPL community for similar reasons. You had a witness that sponsors it that attacked MSP and MSP witnesses. If you attack someone I care about, you know I will be ready to defend them. That's not an issue with me, that's an issue of the attacker. You should have the dignity not to make baseless attacks against people. That's toxic and lends towards tribalism. I willingly left SPL because I didn't want to participate in an SPL vs MSP tribalism.
On the sneaky grumpy thing, the situation is that you have a someone having a conflict with someone you consider to be family, and you did not take the action of defense. Instead, you took the action of supporting the attacker by becoming an attacker yourself.
If there was a bully picking on my brother, and my brother and I got in a fight, I can't see any situation in which I would run to that bully for protection or retaliation...that's not how families deal with things.
And maybe that's the thing. Maybe you're not really interested in a family type environment. In order to be successful in such a situation, you have to be willing to be accepting of everybody as they are, even if you are a contrarian (which I sense you may be). Being a contrarian, you also have to express that acceptance a bit more than others because going at people the way you do cools relationships.
We are a group of vastly different and distinct individuals with vastly different views and beliefs. There are no rules regarding viewpoints on any subject that I know about. In fact, the only rule I know about is that we actively support each other to the best of our abilities. To be truthful, I'm not entirely sure how you feel about that requirement.
I didn't defend Grumpy's actions or really him until closer towards the end when I started noticing the slander wasn't stopping after many requests to stop spreading slander.
evidence of "bullying".Even now, you describe @GrumpyCat in the same manner that has been used in a slime campaign I have seen oh too often. I was skeptical from the beginning, but the more you guys attack me for saying "Maybe we should use logic rather than slander" the more I am convinced that Grumpy isn't the "bully" you make him out to be and the real "bullies" are you guys that won't stop attacking him. Senseless nonstop slander. Not a trace of attempts to provides
Maybe he is a bully and I haven't seen it. That is your responsibility to... habeas corpus? Show us the body of evidence? This is all I've seen:
Grumpy launches a political campaign against bid bot abuse by flagging their consumers. Sort of the same way people protest YouTube Advertisers to stop racism on the platform (Coke is YouTube's customers)
The campaign is successful as several bots already switch to the new policy which provides time for Grumpy to flag "Placeholder" posts
Michael gets flagged by Grumpy
Michael takes this policy as a personal act of theft and launches anti-Grumpy Campaign
All negative comments about Grumpy situation has been entirely by those that campaign against Grumpy.
Now, feel free to correct that timeline, but as far as I see, the real bully is the one that fails to use logic, replaces logic with emotional snags from people that were also flagged by Grumpy, and uses mob mentality to try silence anyone that tries to bring in a different perspective.
hey, now JP... careful there.
SPL doesn't have negative feelings or opinions about MSP, please be clear.
SPL doesn't but an SPL affiliated witness does.
SPL doesn't have a witness. There are a number of witnesses who are a part of our community, including @enginewitty, who - as individuals - have their own personal likes and dislikes. Please don't smear SPL with falsehoods, JP. This isn't right.
You're right, SPL doesn't have a witness. A witness is in SPL, holds mod privileges, gets endorsements from SPL, and heavily finances SPL / whoever shovels out 200 SBD.
See, JP, this is where you have issues. This person we're talking about does much for the SPL community and the SPL community tries to acknowledge and support that. It's a nice thing. They've been around, supporting SPL since the very beginning, so of course they have mod privileges. You had mod privileges too, for a minute.
Here's where your mistake is; in this case right now and it would appear that you have had the same problem within the #Alliance... You're trying way too hard to make the actions/opinions/verbiage from one person mean that the entire community equals those actions/opinions/verbiage and that's neither true nor appropriate.
You and this witness didn't get along. You butted heads on numerous occasions. Then, according to the first comment I responded to here on this thread, you chose to leave SPL. And now you're trying to ... I'm not sure, either smear the SPL community, or start some made-up fight between the SPL and MSP, and that's not fair, JP. It's not right.
It will go far in my view if you can respond to this comment with more fairness than you've shown thus far.
I would absolutely love to agree with you, but unfortunately, I cannot. To do so would establish an unfair double standard that I would prefer notmy supporters questioned why they continued to support me and a demand for those supporters to withdraw their backing from me. I was faced with a dilemma: either be silenced over a political issue or create a second account to hold my politics on as a distinction between my personal support and my political support. to create for the steemit community. See, the creation of @JPolitical96 associates with the fact that I had
If such a standard is to be made, then I concur that the standard ought to be rightfully applied towards the Alliance and SPL. Whereas you are the official spokesperson for SPL, the said witness is the political spokesperson given the already well-established reasoning I have provided above and enforced upon myself; providing support for a witness means believing in the witness's vision for the platform which can adequately assessed through the person's actions, opinions, and verbiage.
This isn't even a recent phenomenon, however, because it could be seen within the SPL's founder himself. Every single time he would give a contested opinion, the support for his SPLleast a fractional degree of representation for choosing to support the individual. posts would be withdrawn, thus the necessary but slow transition of providing content on @SPL rather than his personal account. When an individual holds certain actions, opinions, or verbiage, his supporters reflect at
I hope you gained a great deal of satisfaction with that absolute ridiculous pile of drivel right there.