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Almost all translations were made by trinitarians so of course there is bias in the translation. I do like the KJV personally.

I want to focus of the word in John 1. I believe the word is not a person or being. It is God's word. God created all things through His all powerful word just as all things are created through His wisdom and yet wisdom isn't a person or being either. God's word is life. The word was made flesh. Jesus is the living word of God. That doesn't mean that the word was Jesus in some pre-existent form.

Any other understanding makes a mess of the Bible in my opinion.

These discussions have been going on from the very beginning so I don't expect to change your mind about God in one or two comments. I just hope that I can give you something to think about. I believe that in a simple reading of the Bible we can see that no writer thought Jesus was God, no Jew expected the Messiah to be God, and it is only through persecution and murder that the doctrine of the trinity reigns in the church today.

I believe that a good number of trinitarians will be in the many who will say Lord, Lord..

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

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I don't expect to change your mind either.
I do want to bring to your attention a couple of things. First of all you never really addressed what I said about the Covenant, man sinned and only God passed through the animals. Therefore, Jesus' death could not have fulfilled that covenant if he was only man. Rather he had to be fully man and fully God. If he was not fully God then he would have had a sin nature and therefore would have sin, making his own sacrifice worthless because he had sin of his own.

Also... With John 1. You can't make the assumption that "I believe the word is not a person." If that were the case the Bible would not have said in the beginning was The Word, and the Word was with God, and The Word was with God. HE was in the beginning with God.

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

Realize that I put emphasis on HE. He didn't say it. Because an it would mean that it wasn't a person. No it says He. Meaning The Word was a person and it dwelt among us. Sure The Word became flesh, but it still means that The Word has always been and always will be. The Word was in the beginning.

Furthermore, I understand how a lot of people prefer the KJV. It is known to not be as accurate as the NASB which I just proved in my previous post. Therefore preference doesn't have too much of a bearing on it, because truth is the truth. And that has no bearing on one's preferences.

Have a blessed day. I hope that I gave you stuff to think about as well.

I don't expect to change your mind either.

You don't need to change my mind. I believe in the God of the Bible, the Creator of all things.

You guys get all messed up trying to follow Babylonian style Christianity.

Your website says:

I believe in a triune God. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

Then a couple lines down it says:

I believe that God sent his only son to earth...

The triune God sent His son to earth? It really makes no sense whatsoever.

You may not accept what I say but it truly is the truth. You are too caught up on little things. Every Bible before 1600 had translated John 1 as "it" not "he" or "him", and that was done by trinitarian translators. Don't let simple words become a stumbling block for you.

As for the rest, I'm not sure what you are saying. The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus was a man and he had to be a man to atone for mans sins. If he were God in any sense, salvation and the Scriptures stop making sense. He didn't have man's sinful nature because he was not of Adam. He was of God and had God's nature, but to make him equal to God is to have two gods because truly the Father and the son are two separate individual beings. He was the perfect man chosen from the beginning to be our Savior. He died to atone for our sins and God raised him from the dead and God exalted him and made him Lord. If you want to lead people to salvation, you must understand.

You feel like you must change my mind, as I feel the same way about you. Okay so you keep talking about "trinitarian translations" and how perverted they are according to you. Then show me a non-trinitarian translation because according to everything that I have seen, the Bible points towards a Trinity. Furthermore, I don't see how you would say that it is "Babylonian Christianity" because that was a concept I would say that the Trinity is a term the Catholic Church first coined. Second... How do you explain Matthew 28:19 which states

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19 NASB)

Jesus himself said this. Meaning that if he was not truly God, then him commanding us to do that would be sacrilege and evil because now we are doing something, which is supposed to be for God, but for God and a normal man who just happens to be from God. If all of the scriptures are supposed to be accurate and divinely breathed by God... then this doesn't make sense. However, if we look at all three parts fully 1 God, but still three different entities with their own roles... it lines up correctly.

If you want a translation of the Bible that is not made by Trinitarians, look up The Scriptures (2009) which was written by a group of well-known respected Hebrew Rabbis who took their knowledge of the Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic and translated the Bible as literal as possible. It was published by the Institute of Scripture Research.

Please check that one out. It's about the most literal, including the fact that they keep all of the original Hebrew nouns. God becomes Elohim, Moses becomes Mosheh, and so forth. I actually prefer this translation because its the most accurate I have ever read.