I have done this a couple of times in the past, but then it was more a rant towards a specific mod where it is a view on the moderation now. As some might know I contributed on utopian a lot in the past.
What we currently have is an atmosphere where people are stopping their contributions as mods take away the upvote because their opinion says someone has not done enough. Some mods even invent their own rules. And other mods do not even say why something isn’t approved.
As I have most experience in the graphics section I will share some of my experiences:
The rules state you need to add an editable file when someone asks for a logo. The files should be a vector file. All ok there. But lately you need to add a .png a .eps (or something similar). You need to ad a color image of this another image of that maybe some more of Y and Z. They are inventing rules whenever they feel like. And you need to do all of this without the certainty to even get a upvote. I can understand a .AI (or vector file) an .png sure. But all the rest can be an extra when the project owners choose your design, and we will gladly help if help is needed.
Then there is the way we need to setup a post. You need to add a bazillion things that have no extra value what so ever. We need to add a one color example (black and white) we need to add different color variations we need to add sizes we need to add proof of work we need to …… . Seriously where in the rules does it state we need to add all those things. Yet again the same problem as before. We need to spend a lot of time making these adjustments without a certainty of a upvote.
Then lastly every mod chooses themselves to approve or not approve with there own judgment. This by itself is a wrong concept. That means that if a mod does not like your design personally you don’t get a upvote. They don’t get the design, no upvote. They find some small detail not good enough, no upvote. They find some bullshit reason not to approve, no upvote.
The same happens in the tutorials section. Where I have seen perfectly good explanations being disapproved because someone used already written code in the tutorial. Well it is the same in car design why would you change a round tire when it works? Good code should never be rewritten. Good code is good code. But why is good code and why should you make it like that. What is the logic behind it. Well some moderators copy a piece of code and google it. Does it already exist. Bam no upvote. Logic I guess?
They are pushing contributors away. A lot of people invest a lot of time in their contributions. They invent rules to even spend more time without something in return. You can argue we are contributing for free and we know something might not get approved. But we all like a upvote and without the chance of a upvote nearly no one would contribute. Time is money!
I talked to a lot of mods. And they either do not care. Don’t explain. Or just ignore. And then judge on good presentation and explanation with too much personal opinions. So, my advice to utopian would be school your mods how to moderate, and invent a system where everyone is judged equally.
As to be frank it all depends on who is moderating if you get a upvote or not!
So from now on when I see a moderation fail i will be adding this image.
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this one color version is a total fail.
who want print a logo on screen printing technique ????
it's not fair, MODS who do not accept your logo or design make their repositories themselves.
They give themselves to aproved
Totaly agreed. They invent these rules for god knows what reason
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Honestly this is a serious issue because I know a lot of people spend quality time to put a story together and 12 hours counting the post is still reading zero. Something has to be done. Time to act
Agreed, but i wonder what this has to do with anything :)
haha lol, I think he didnt read your post haha. But he still got an upvote from you :) how generous
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Judgment should never be a opinion of ONE. If a rule is broken a rule is broken. But one moderator alone should not decide if quality is good enough.
I agree, but some rules have no logic. Why do i need to add diffrent sizes or colors when i as a designer don't like a diffrent color palet. A banana is yellow why should i depict it as red? The sizes can be generated by the vector file :)
I am felling sad this all comes to a discussion like this. I really hope they improve the rules and handle this because this is not an ideal situation.
They wil not. The dictatorial regime runs that shit
Wow i did not know it whend like thise. Why do moderators invent rules and let you edit all these details without a upvote?
That is my biggest question. Why let us add all these diffrent things that have nothing to do with the design or a logo. To then just say sorry the spacing is not good enough -> no upvote.
Oo i joined steemit after seeing the utopian site and a explenation on a facebook post from a friend. Now i am wondering if i should even contribute. Thank you for sharing your opinion.
I wish you the best of luck. Most of the time the first contribution gets approved after some mod fills you in on all there invented rules :D
Do not give up, try your thing and make your own decision. I am not sure if this is a 'alone-standing' case. Anyway welcome to steemit!
They are a bunch of dickheads
You are right about subjective moderation. There is no such standart.
My last utopian post was good in my opinion but mod said your design well but doesn't work on small versions if you can edit it to thicker I can aprove. I didn't want it to be thick because My design works with thin lines for my opinion. I said you can hide it I won't change I want to see my design in my profile how it is now. There is no problem with that. I can handle rejection.
But now I see some contributions which are not working in small versions and they are approved. This siguation is realy make me angry and I don't want to contribute anymore.
Maybe there could be a voting panel for mods for contributions and with inside voting they can decide what to be approved or not. with this moderation we have It is changing by person to person.
Moderation improving us with new rules by the way I like that part 😇
waw i just typed for someone if I didnt know if this as a stand-alone case but seems others feel the same. I am not sure why this get no reaction, I hope they are discussing it inter and apply some solutions.
Good point
Agreed. The personal opinions should not count. I could live with a democratic voting system.
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