There are people who have some popularity outside of Steem, and when they get here, their popularity rockets them to good rewards from the get go. They have good material. But then they don't engage in the comments on their posts. It seems that interaction with your supporters in comments doesn't seem to matter to these high-profile popular users. Yet, they keep getting rewards just for dumping content on Steem. Just posts, no interaction with the community (or very little).
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They post daily or every few days, getting upvotes and high-rewards, yet they don't reply to the comments from their supporters. What gives? Why doesn't their level of interaction factor in to people who support them?
People who go through their content are taking that time to do so presumably, and then they take the time to comment. I understand not all comments might be contributing relevant additions to the topic. But all comments aren't just fodder. I have a backlog of being 1 day to 2-3 days behind on some posts for me to reply to comments and upvote them (been busy with girlfriend in evening so time to comment gets cut). So I understand if that's the case of having a backlog and not getting to comment replies right away, but it's not the case, as they have week- or month-long no commenting.
You can go see their #comments page and check to see when they last made a comments. They may have made 6 posts in the past week, or 6 in the past two weeks, and get comments, but their last comment is sometimes 6 days ago, 10 days ago, 2 weeks ago. One accounts I saw recently, @pressfortruth, has not made a comment in a month, yet they post each day pretty much and gets well-rewarded for each post. I am using this one account specifically because it was the last one I saw recently and to demonstrate the veracity of what I'm saying. There are other popular users who come from antimedia or other journalistic sites and do similar on Steem with not engaging in replies with their commenters. They get supported by high-SP user upvotes and get decent rewards for their content.
I appreciate the knowledge of many posts. But when I see that they don't even care to interact with the commenters who leave them support, I am left a bit disheartened by their behavior. I am left wondering if they should be getting the support they do -- the rewards they do, when they don't seem to care to interact on the platform at all beyond posting.
Many users are just doing hit-and-run posts, and not responding to comment or interacting on the platform in other ways. They get rewards and are happy I'm sure. Why reward others when they essentially ignore the community of supporters who interact with their content? Engaging in the platform to get rewards apparently doesn't matter in order to get rewarded, at least for some users. If you're popular, you can do hit-and-run posting and reap the rewards without caring to interact with your supporters. Sure, they might be (probably are) busy, but is that a valid excuse to ignore your supporters?
People are free to vote how they want. I am bringing to light some behavior I have issues with. Does anyone else have issue with this, or is it just me? I'd like to see well-rewarded posters care more about their supporters. Maybe all of the users doing the upvoting/rewarding can take this into account, whether they want to support hit-and-run posters that much or not. Is the content all that matters, or does their interaction on the platform with their supporters matter at all when you support them with an upvote?
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Some content producers are so busy making content, they just don't have time to interact much with their followers/commenters. Add on top of that family/social engagements and other life problems, and the time for commenting on Steemit is almost non-existent.
So it doesn't matter at all to reply to comments. I should just not bother either then :P I could be doing other things instead of replying to comments for sure. But I see it as obligation to the supporters to give them the courtesy or replying to their comments, rather than ignore them.
I agree that those large accounts should make a point about interaction - as to whether it makes a difference to success - clearly not if your a big account, as to whether it does down here in minnow land I couldn't say with any statistical certainty, but I certainly feel that if I didn't reply to people's comments I probably don't deserve their rewards.
I'm still trying to figure out whether I find lack of engagement 'distressing' or not. I probably have about 20-30 people who clearly make a point of occasionally checking in and reading something I've written and making a comment, and I probably have about 40-50 who I do the same with.
I don't think I could handle more than that!
Even with the people who want to engage - they haven't got that much to engage with! to give you one example - @mountainjewel is an excellent e.g. of an account putting out excellent posts, and who clearly wants to engage ( they are active in two community/ curation initiatives (e.g. part of @tribesteemup and @abh12345's curation leagues, and more) - but check out their feed to see how little engagement they get.
To further this, I always come in the top 50 (I think) of Asher's engagement leagues and TBH, even though I respond to every worthwhile comment and make a point on digging around, I don't spend more than a few hours a week on this.
In short, even at the top end of 'engagement', engaging mainly means adding someone to auto-voter. Or to put it another way, I don't think people on here are that interested in engaging, in particular! Being one of those who does 'engage' it's a very, very small world! Maybe that's something to do with the rewards structure?
Of course, the record on here doesn't tell us anything about what's going on off-steemit.
As a teacher this doesn't surprise me, however, churning out content/ lecturing is much less stressful than engaging - interaction takes more time, and is more stressful.
Also, I don't think it's possible to churn out content on here, maintain a full time job outside, bring up kids and engage meaningfully with more than 30-50 people anyway.
But zero engagement, that's taking it too far for sure!
Thanks for the mention! Yeah I wonder if there’s anything we could do differently to get more engagement? Open to suggestions. For a while there, I had a lot of free time and would take more time to go out and find new people and comment on their stuff, that usually got the engagement going a bit more. Like a tit for tat thing unless you build relationships, like you say, where you “check in” on people. I do that quite a bit too.
But truly I think it just comes down to the money in the account (or appearance of money with consistently big upvoted). That’s where people flock to to earn! Totally get it!
Agreed- I always feel a little burn when people don’t bother to engage at all and just rake in the awards, not really adding any community value to the platform. But again, I know this place means many different things to different people and we’re all in different situations as you mention. I for one don’t have kids or a structured outside of the home job so I get to choose by and large what I do with my time. Good topic for convo!
I knew you'd respond, I was interested to hear what you'd say on the topic!
I don't think we need to beat ourselves up about lack of engagement, rather it's just a 'functional necessity' - people aren't inclined to comment because it's just exhausting!
It's just impossible to do that much of it, especially when you have to maintain a life outside.
BTW - I don't generally comment on permaculture things ATM as I'm hopefully heading that way myself next few months, but not 'in it' yet, don't want to jinx it!
I save most of my commentary for 'steemit issues' like this one. Bizarrely enough I sometimes prefer commenting on other people's posts rather than responding to comments on my own.
Also, there's a place for bants too.
Yeah it takes time to engage. Steem is a full time job :P But just hit-and-run posting with 0 engagement is not cool at all.
Well done and effective post by you and the Steemit community, @krnel. Great engagement/responses. I also agree that content providers need to interact more with their commenters. Most of the big-names on here simply use Steemit as an extra form of revenue from content they initially post on places like Youtube. However, I find that to be selfish. Their perception of this issue is that they are providing the "great, professional content," so we should just be happy and vote for it.
It wouldn't take much for them, however, to assign the job of perusing and responding to comments to some low-level peon. As a matter of fact, I think Sean @Sgtreport does that. I did get a response from a comment, but noticed it did not quite fit with my comment. And, it was not upvoted - although I had not intended or expected to get one.
Anyhoo...we can just vote with our Steem-dollars and they'll eventually get the picture.
They add good content sure, and I guess that's all that matters to them and the high SP upvoters... :/ The courtesy of replying to at least some comments factors in at 0... :/ It seems even upvoting other people comments on posts is something they don't even bother with either...
Thanks for the upvote, btw @krnel. I'm sorry I didn't see it earlier. I've been off-site for over 2 wks. I always (eventually) respond to comments, though. I don't have much in the way of voting power, but do take a few hours of my time as much as possilbe to try and spread out the little I do have among our community, and especially to individuals who have likewise commmented and/or voted on my content in the past.
An essential note, by the way!
I've noticed that the more powerful the person is, the less often he replies on comments (though there're exceptions!)
Yes, you're right, not all comments are worth of replies, but there're rather logical and deep opinions, but they're left without any attention or even "thanks". It's a pity.
I am often in both situations: my comments are ignored sometimes, and sometimes they get a little upvote as a way of interaction or a reply.
Of course, I'm happy to have last two variants, the last one is even better for me, because I tries to express my thoughts about the topic, and when a person replies me, it means, it has touched me, and my words are somehow interesting for him.
When a person only writes posts without any interaction wiith his followers, it's sad. he is a money-maker only in such a case.
I tried to pay attention to all people who have supported me and who it now as well, even if they have low SP and can't give a profitable upvote.
Steemit is not only bussiness, it has much just about human relationships as well.
Do you agree?
Ot is it better to be here just like in a working place, trying to get profit?
Yeah popularity and less comments may seem to correlate :P Yes it's sad when they don't care to be courteous enough to respond to commenters :(
Steem is a business money making path for many, they don't care about adding useful content or interacting. I think it may take time for people to adopt a different approach than just trying to make money :)
do you think it's possible?-)
Moneymaking is in blood of most people nowadays, and Steemit isn't an exception unfortunately...
But you're right, struggle for quality content is necessary, otherwise, the platform will sink in trash posts.
There're cleaners and cheetah but it's not enough as we can see.
You know, I've come to Steemit from Golos (the Russian clon of it), and here they tried to fight for unique and good content by giving additional rewards to authors. There were some criteria: uniquness (plagiarisms programs tested it), the article or photos had to be published in Golos first (and then in other resources), and deep or interesting plot of the article.
This very program was initiated by one of whales, and was supported by founders of the platform. So authors got reward from that very fund, and there were curators who analyzed all posts, checked, tested, and gave rewards (or made notes for plagiarism).
It was great, and really stimulated people to write more and better.
The maintenance of it was expensive (but upvotes of whales covered it), but It really helped.
I was one of the curators there for some months.
The idea was cool, but it had too much critics from haters.
I left the platform soon when it stopped functioning.
How do you think it can be appropriate for Steemit? Or it's too big for it (I mean the number of posts and users). Golos is much much smaller.
I, being a plankton, comment under the posts of people like you to be rewarded and show the world my existence. It is the truth. If someone produce a content, there should be consumers. @krnel need not to put as much efforts as he puts now to get decent rewards for all his posts since he has already gained enough support. Yet he tries to add value and engage with community because that is the reason the steemit has been designed this way!
People regardless of their power and position should engage with those who consume their publications. Haejin is such a person who doesn't care about anything other than making loads of money. I believe in engaging with the community for the success in long run!
Thank you for recognizing that I actually do reply to most comments, even though I could ignore them and keep making rewards as most upvoters don't seem to care that an author does that :/
If I am allowed to speak truth, I will definitely say that Steem is not doing anything better than traditional social media platforms. It has rather become a tool of earning for many. This virtual world Is one of the most unequal society where automatic voting, use of bots, self voting and the worst herd mentality prevail.
Most of the people upvotes those who don't reply because they don't even see the content of a post. When They see that someone has good reputation score and his posts earn a lot, they began to upvote him with the help of automatic voting tools, in a hope to earn handsome curation reward (which is totally bullshit). These writers of trending posts are well aware of the herd mentality of public, so they don't care for their opinion either.
I am a new user of steem. So I experimented with many things here, including upvoting trending posts to upvoting new but well written posts of minnows, using bid bots to self bots and no bid bots. I found that upvoting a whales post is totally wastage of voting power. Trending posts are seldom good. Bid bots can help a new user but not effective in a long run.
What do you think?
I agree, the steem voting and rewards system need to be updated if we want new users to stick around.
Not everyone is going to make a fortune, but at the moment, good content doesn't get the reward it deserves.
It's mostly whales and dolphins circle jerking each other
This is very bad.
Yup, something I've noticed early on... :/
I think bidbots are shit for helping steem, certainly against helping to change the quoted part... :/
Ok, one more upvote before my break. I noticed @pressfortruth doing this as well. I added some information to bring something to his attention, and nothing.
If I comment once, and there is no response, I usually just give them the benefit of the doubt, because I understand that sometimes it's hard to respond to each one, or life got busy, or whatever. If it happens a more than that, I'm insulted, and am much less likely to support their post in the future, even if I like it.
Engagement is integral to the health and identity of Steemit. Some people are better at it than others, but either way it shows the author that you valued their post and that you respect them enough to engage them. Accounts that post and don't engage the people who support them come off as ungrateful to me.
Yes, one time, or a few times, ok, but if it's every time... psshh. It's a lack of courtesy to someone who took that time to give you their attention and talk to you... to just ignore them each time...
I've actually noticed that with the hodgetwins they were pretty big on YouTube and when they moved to steemit I thought wow their videos have such low engagement if i comment im more likely to get a response from them then on their youtube videos where it would most likely get lost
But they havn't responded to a single comment. seems like a very one-sided dialogue to me. Which mediums like YouTube are when you're a big channel you engage with your community as a whole by reading the comments and creating content in response and not replying to each and every response
If its a side hustle id get that you dont bother but if this is your full time job you should engage its what will set you apart from others and have users coming back for more as you build a strong relationship with them
Yeah, when the popular ppl get attention here, they just don't care it seems. They get upvotes regardless of their courtesy t their comment supporters :/
I'll give people a few tries, but if I never get a response on a comment I will most likely not continue to support the person. I can find good content a lot of places, so I prefer to spread my vote and comments around to people I enjoy interacting with in a genuine way. I don't comment near as much as I would like to on content, but I always try to reply when someone takes the time to stop by my posts!
That's a good way to go about it :)
Yup, if someone gives you the time to comment, at least an upvote if you can't think of something to reply. Sometimes I can't, and just upvote...
I appreciate you taking the time to respond. ;) Yep, just some small acknowledgement is all it takes! I'm sure it gets tough to reply to everyone when you get hundreds of comments a day, so I do try to take that into consideration, as well.
Well I had just replied, agreeing with your way to go about it, and made another remark, but I forget. Steemit.com had a network error and it didn't even leave my comment there...
I will upvote tonight--have to wait for a little recharging before I use my votes. However, I would like to respond to your post before it gets lost in the stream of other posts.
All of the issues you raise are legitimate, but I'm not surprised by the obvious imbalance between merit and reward. There are always people who have an edge, advantage that seems unfair. I grew up with five siblings. Learned early not to expect fairness. So, on Steemit, I don't look at what others get. I try to see if I can make progress in my own quiet way. Is there a path to success? Is there a mechanism whereby those without influence can still reap gains? I think so. I didn't invest any money. I'm not chatty and don't socialize a lot on here. What I do is reciprocate good treatment. And I work really hard to make quality posts. My progress is slow, but it is progress. I'm inching along, climbing the mountain. I see chalets at the top, but I don't aim for them. One thing that gives me encouragement is the small groups that are forming, almost organically, to help associates along the way. There's no entrance fee to become part of the groups, just a commitment to write quality posts and check in on blogs that members write. Now, I"m relatively new here. So maybe I've got it all wrong. But I weather moments of discouragement and try to give a lift to those who seem to be making even less progress than I am.
I'm having fun on Steemit. I'm learning a lot as I research different topics for my posts. Maybe in a year I'll think I've been on a fool's errand. All the more reason to enjoy myself while I'm here. Then my time will be well spent, no matter the material rewards.
Peace to you. I'll continue to follow your blog because you have a lot to say.
I agree with you on this. I take a very similar approach I like to engage with many people and I don’t necessarily do it through posts but comments. There are some great groups that comment on similar authors. I’ve seen your name here before as well though not sure if on krnel here but I appreciate the groups and the support we give each other. It won’t get us the chalet but it’s not so glorious at the top and I appreciate that and understand I enjoy my position in between.
I'm here for the possibility and for the experience. As time goes by, I realize the experience of getting there is just as important as arriving. After all, it's time, our most precious resource.
Be seeing you around :)
I'm not chatty either ;) I had to lean to comment more hehe. Well enjoy it indeed even if there are problems, it takes work to climb up ;)
Thank you, for the encouragement.
I tend to operate on the opposite end of that spectrum. I have spent most my time here thus far commenting and engaging with others before posting anything original myself. Building a small following through comments and getting individuals engaged through my personal contribution is my main goal. I don’t want a post I spend 7 hours researching and building to fall on deaf ears. So my approach is to build a following by showing my support for others. With well articulated comments and replies I think it is possible to get better results than posing blindly and praying. Thanks for sharing!
I’ve actually taken a similar approach. I have posted a lot more recently but I mainly comment because I find it easier than trying to come up with original content lately. It doesn’t pay as well sure but it’s not costing me anything I don’t already pay like internet so it’s a win no matter what.
Well that's a good way to start off, because early on for the time to write post, it can get unrewarded. You have more chance to get upvotes on comments on other people's posts ;) You are doing it right I think :) You're welcome.
I only follow people that have content I like and also engage with their supporters. If I’m going to spend time reading it all and commenting I like that the poster writes back; doesn’t even need to be complicated in response but acknowledges what I’ve said! I thank you for that, dialogue needs to happen more often. Too many people are used to the Facebook and Twitter style where you post and just leave it. People need to communicate!
Yup. Some people don't seem to care, neither the commenters or authors, and neither do their upvoters :/
Ya, it’s all good though they don’t get to socialize and expand their community like we do who talk to each other; cheers!
This is something that is very common, in the hispanic communities (I'm Venezuelan) It seems like the ethics represents nothing for most of the people here in Steemit. They are just here because of the money, and that's just fine. But they are ignoring that steemit is a platform based on rewarding content based on the utility of it. Then how could you find utility on something you rewarded, if you did not read it? then what is the point?
We must seriously sit down and have an honest conversation with the people here on steemit because it seems like ethics and morals do not represent anything for the community.
Only for some. Many many don't care about the utility of the content, unfortunately... The "community" is just not integrated on the common direction and use of the blockchain...
Excellent!
I think it's a matter of manners, I try to answer 100% of the comments that they make me, or failing that, leave a positive as a sign that I agree with the comment, since after all, someone has taken the trouble to read what I have written, and to comment on it.
I have also seen the problem you describe, sometimes I really want to have feedback with the writer of the publication, but they simply do not respond. It is very demotivating.
Yes, I don't always have something to respond with, so I often just leave an upvote in that case. Good point on how leaving a comment, not just once, but many times on different posts by an author, and they never respond, can certainly be demotivating to even bother.
Even if the author doesn't engage in the comments the commentators can still engage with each other.
In my opinion Steemit doesn't give much incentive to respond to comments.
Steemit should give all the power back to the bloggers. The authors of posts should be able to fully moderate their own blogs. You should get to choose the order of every thread if you want to. A 1% flag from the OP should auto-hide any comment. This way bloggers can increase the value of the blog by showing readers the best comments first.
Obviously this would just be an option anyone can opt in to (for censorship concerns). You could view the blog regularly or how the author wants you to view it. At this point you could also make an option for anyone to be able to moderate comments on any blog. Users would opt in to the best moderators. This would be an interesting proof-of-brain concept and a form of curation.
So what if there is no incentive to respond to comments? Why the hell does everything have to be about incentives to make money, and if there isn't one somewhere, then it's not worth doing... Jeez, but yes, many people operate this way, and it sucks. That's why manual curation isn't too popular because hey, just auto-vote and save yourself the trouble :P
That's an interesting idea. Someone would have to code it because I doubt Steemit inc has any interest :P
This trustless smart contract revolution isn't about trusting people to do the right thing. It's about forcing them to do the right thing. When you join a smart contract community, you agree to the rules and the rules are hard enforced. If we want people to do things we should at least be giving a small push in the right direction.
Wouldn't it be nice if everything just worked perfectly even though the space is massively underdeveloped. Yeah! It would... but... at the same time, would that really make sense? It's more satisfying to struggle and accomplish something than it is to be handed it on a silver platter.
Although you have made a good comment here how can you say it is the best comment made under this post so far? You have said it is upto the author to decide the order of comments in his/her post. But what about this self upvoting and pushing your comment to the top? (I even saw you downvoting a fellow commenter just for expressing his views.) Do you walk the talk?
I never said it was the best comment. In fact, under my system, people would no longer be able to boost themselves by self voting. I also said it's not up to the author it's up to anyone who wants to moderate.
There are no rules for flagging. It's the Wild West up in here. I gave that guy a full upvote because he cried so hard.
As Newby I find this really frustrating and discouraging!
@pressfortruth earns more with 1 post as I do in a full year. And don't get me wrong, cause I'm not saying I should earn much more. But the financial weakly should be divided way better. Which means these kind of users should earn much less. And a whole bunch of newbies should earn just a little bit more.
Another aspect that is important in my opinion is of such an author gets upvoted for his great content? Or is it because of what I think they call circle jerking? Or because of auto upvotes?
In the past you could get an idea about this by looking at the number of views. When a post has 40 views and 160 upvotes it seems something is wrong.
Seeing these kind of things happening sometimes just makes me this angry that I send the top10 upvoters a comment to all why they upvoted that specific post? But since I'm around on Steemit for several months now I realize how useless that is. Since almost no one replies to such a comment. And how many Steemonians will change their behavior? Close to zero I would guess.....😥
Circle jerking all around with those folks, they don’t even try anymore. They copy and paste whatever crap they find on the internet and bots they control vote it and their friends do the same. Parallels to the contemporary business world eh? 🤔
Yeah crypto is like the digital world of bankers 🤐
Auto votes factor in, popularity too, and just liking the content. If you have lots of SP, you get to decide how to apply your influence of the reward pool to others... :/ Money rules many of the people here, that's why they use bidbots ;)
I agree with you. I read the whole post. Pressfortruth was who got me to Steemit in the first place. I know he does do QA streams on Youtube. So for some Steemit isn't a place for engagement or community maybe because the traffic doesn't compare to other platforms? But it's more a place to assist moneytise existing content. Just more exposure. Also observe those who post and run, do a Dtube post and then a different youtube post of the same thing.
Yes, most of these people do the same dtube+youtube, pressfortruth, joshsigurdson, titus, and others, all do that.
This post is pretty funny. Looking through your comment and post history you rarely reply back to anyone on your posts or in other people posts either. You seem to be doing exactly what you are talking about in your first couple paragraphs.
This post makes it sound like you are some community engagement specialist yet you rarely engage in your posts...
Sure your content is ok depending on personal taste. But this community should celebrate and embrace the comment section on posts. If we don't steemit won't compete with other platforms.
Maybe I am missing something, but this post seems a little hypocritical...
EDIT
WTF flag?
I have done nothing wrong. Was offering an opinion/thought... Not cool.
He does reply to his comments. Just not all of them as it would probably take every waking moment. He just replied to one of mine from a previous post. @krnel posts more than the average Steemian, so he gets more comments, also he admitted that he was a day or two behind because he's been spending time with his girlfriend.
Disagree :D
SO, why flag. Leave a real reply.
Flagging a comment like that is pretty lame.
You upvoted your self for visibility and I downvoted you for the same reason. It's as simple as that.
I don't take flagging as seriously as most people. A 3% flag is nothing. Let's see if I can upvote you and flag you at the same time. I give no fucks.
Edit: no, you cannot upvote and flag at the same time. lol
Wow. You are clueless. My comments tab shows how many comments I put up. "Rarely reply" is an outright lie. Anyone can go look and see how full of shit you are. Go look at any of the posts in the past month that are over 4 days old and it shows how much I do actually reply. You're either blind to be so mistaken, don't go look past the most recent comments that I don't reply to right away (as I mentioned above), or are a troll out to spread lies.
I think people upvote these posts for curation rewards or to upvote their own post as they may not be creating original content themselves. I dont watch such content, I dont upvote or comment on such posts because i dont want steemit to be youtube or twitter or facebook. The interactions are what make steemit unique and it doesnt matter whether the author upvotes the comments or not.
Worst part is most youtube celebrities do not have good content and its repeat information. To me no one here is a phd on any topic and comments are sometimes quiet enlightening. Yeah i just dont like authors who dont interact.
I am a chartered tax advisor and boy, wait until Her Majesties Revenue and Customs start looking at everyone's Steem accounts.
I am expecting my work load to increase a lot ;)
I doubt if hmrc needs to. Well, let me not get into the territory of what they need to do or not. They should be eyeing deposits into a bank account from crypto exchanges and unconverted steem is just gas, thin air.
Just because someones decided to change the symbol for likes to $ and people started trading those likes, doesn't mean i made any money. Once i sell the likes for money and its cash in my account, then i should pay taxes.
Interesting. You may feel that way, but HMRC don't think the same and the law is the law. They see all Crypto as digital assets and subject to taxation. You are correct in that there is no capital gains tax for individuals on 'unrealised' gains. But each time you go from steem to SBD, or make exchanges, you are in effect crystallising gains and possibly exposing yourself to taxation.
It's still a bit of a grey area, but anyone who thinks HMRC is not looking into this space is very mistaken.
Yeah, i agree that hmrc will always see it as that. The whole steemit proposition was earn money for your content. So it is money, and you're the expert so you should be able to make a more informed comment but i wonder if steemit income is simply capital gains. Wouldnt it be revenue? Any fluctuation is price is like unrealised fx gain or loss. And when you cash out, you either realise cap gain or book cap losses. I dont know the tax treatment but would be similar to unhedged revenue earned by selling products in a different currency and reporting them to hmrc in £.
That's a very good point about reporting your steem earned as income to HMRC.
Much better reporting early and be taxed while the value of STEEM is low.
That way any future gains in the value of your steem will be taxed as a capital gain which is taxed lower than income
Yup, thats actually very well explained. Reporting early is def better in case of steem.
Some just get upvoted for popularity indeed, despite no having something good for content ;)
Hmm I checked their wallet and steemworld.org expecting to find bots, but they aren't being used. His latest 2 big payouts are from a Steem millionaire.
I've said it before, but it merits saying again...
This iteration of Steemit does a pretty poor job of justly compensating worthwhile efforts.
As proven by your post mentioning those who make no effort at making this a social network platform being rewarded so well...
You're welcome ;) It's taken more over an hour so far to respond to comments here, lots more than I expected :P
If the author is popular on many platforms, taking time to answer lots of comments usually isn't really possible along with creating the content and running the other aspects of their business. Often, they don't even run their social media accounts themselves
Yeah, well if they don't even run it, then they can't reply can they... lol. Then it's not them, it's just copy-paste for making money someone else does... not being part of the Steem community...
Agreed, but, people who are popular across many platforms can and do bring attention to Steemit and Steem. Even if they barely participate themselves, having them on here is probably better than not having them on here, no? And the more Steemit grows, and the better DTube and Dlive get, the more chances they might decide to use Steemit as their main platform and interact more with the community.
I've noticed two things on steemit over the past year:
Hoping more people use the upvote tools provided. It's a small reward for participating in steemit. It's a small reward for writing good comments and stimulating discussion.
That good to give 100% upvotes, your choice :) I try to spread upvotes around to more people, so I do lower votes. Currently 512 upvotes on 209 accounts in past 7days.
You are one of a handful of high reputation regular posters that make it part of the process of writing a post to actually engage in comments. Leaders will lead...
I'd like to think it's easier to keep a follower by treating them well, than it is to get new ones who dont and even bother interacting with your material.
The best comment I got was that I made someone's day. Freaking awesome. Most of my work is a giant piss take of my life and I use humour and sarcasm constantly. I drill my own readership. Not because I am argumentative, but because I respect them enough to know they're intelligent human beings who know how to take a joke.
Keep up the grear writing.
Nick.
Well, I don't think they care about a following when they get well paying upvotes.
This seems to be a growing trend here on Steemit.
As a newbie minnow, I'm noticing a number of differences.
The more followers someone has the less they are able to respond. I get that but should they not at least respond in a general comment?
Are we able to see their commenting history on other posts? Perhaps they are busy replying and commenting on others' posts in their network?
I also have a general question. Why do some people say it is bad to upvote their own articles, posts, replies, and comments?
I was told by a friend with a very large following I should upvote all my posts. articles, videos, replies, comments, etc.
He said it used to be seen as a self-promoting, not the best thing to do sort of tactic, but now it should be seen as I am a real person trying to keep up with all the bots out there.
My question to the group is: Would it or does it help a minow like me to upvote my posts? Like this one.
Or should I just give in and start using more and more of the different bots out there?
I have tried both. Not sure which one works better.
They can respond to some comment if they have too many, but to not respond to any... that's cold...
Comments are plenty if you engage. Upvoting yourself all over is "bad form". Posts are more limitd as they take more work, so ideally if the whole community was upvoting others for their content, we could do away with self-voting, but sadly so many are stuck in autovotes or selling votes that they don't upvote other people's content. I used to not selfvote posts, but I do now. Don't use bots. Upvote your own posts, not comments.
I have noticed this and I agree, it's disheartening but I don't think there is not much we can do if they have die hard powerful supporters. What I usually do before following or commenting on someone's post is check whether or not they usually respond. If their content is that good(rare) I might just keep reading their stuff without leaving a vote or comment and they miss out on an extra 0.1$. There is not much else we can do really :(
Yup, the supporters keep them going, and the supporters don't seem to care either :/
I think the big accounts are supporting each other by auto upvoting and they don't care about commenting. It's sad, but not much we can do...........I just don't comment anymore on account that ignores me. But I guess, there always will be someone leaving a comment before they realize doing so is futile :(
Yeah, why bother giving them attention when they just keep not returning it... as long as they get upvotes it doesn't seem to matter to them :/
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I see lots of them as I cruise around steemit. I understand you can’t comment on every single comment but at least try or attempt to comment on a few good ones.
Yes, one comment per post, at least... or something :P
I've seen that behavior in a lot of accounts and I know each one have its mean, perhaps supporters should also start to care about who they support, at last this seems to be a back scratching system and we may give some importance to interculturality.
Yes, supporters should care about who they support more ;) But much of the time they just want to get in on early curation to get more rewards from bigger SP accounts that upvote later ;)
There is a lot of strategy here, I would not know if it's good or if it could or should be avoided.
The contents is what attracts me, interaction is what keeps me coming back!
It is not that I will judge people on missing a reply or a reply on my comment but when I so notice that there is no interaction at all, I will unfollow and move on!
Yup, no replies to comments after a few posts... meh... not cool.
I have stopped following a lot of these so called popular people because of this reason. If i took the time to write, i would like to know that they read. I always comment on my posts and that have gained me some active readers.
Indeed, they feed you with writing, you write to them a little thing, well they can write a little thing back if your comment adds value to the post, or they can just give a little upvote to signal it was read or something. At least reply to some comment, if not most... some...
I have noticed the same, especially with some users than just post videos.
Perhaps because in youtube almost anyone reply to comments, then they believe steem is the same, post a video and then forget about it.
With articles I do see more engagement.
Yeah, it does apply to videos an youtube effect, but as I've mentioned some are authors from antimedia or other sites, and they post their content here too, and they still don't reply. I checked their work on their original sits too, and they don't reply to comments there either.
@krnel you are 100% right...there are many people with high reputation who are doing that...they only think about their-self and family an not the people that follow them...we take time to read all the stuffs they have and comments by making suggestion and contribution to it but they seem not to appreciate what we do for them.... very sad how newbies found it difficult to be on steemit.. they all end-up leaving this platform because most of people with high reputation are greedy and dont share their upvote with anyone except their self. But at least there are some good people like @thejohalfiles who has never posted but help people with good, quality content and others...but the rest are all greedy..they never help the community grow...
Yup, no appreciation for the comment supporters, and no courteous as a result to even bother replying to even some comments... Not all are greedy, you just don't know them yet ;)
@krnel then please let me know them because am not having a good time on steemit as others do...
I agree. It’s a respect issue. People take the time to write comments, and they would no doubt appreciate a little feedback. Ignoring comments speaks to being self-centered. If you have limited time, post less and respond more. Support the community that supports you.
Indeed. Some post infrequently and still don't reply to comments :/
Letting a comment go unnoticed may not be a good choice, especially if it's a good comment, as it adds a lot to your post
Sometimes they are, but not always ;)
For a new member of steemit like me, this is even more discoreging. If the commets are ok then yes they deserve something back. And if this is constant behavior than definitly this people dont deserve the attention.
Make sure you stick around, this will be a rollercoaster ride ;)
Yup, give your support where you think the person aligns with your values for the platform :)
I noticed that too. That is so annoying. One of the reason I follow you is because I can expect a reply for my comment.
Sometimes, but not always. I like when people add to the discussion ;)
I also just noticed this which might be of interest to people: @thejohalfiles has just undelegated from minnowbooster and started manually voting - and guess what he/ she's voting for....
lol :P
It is a full time job yes! The key thing is to be disciplined enough to drag yourself away from it properly at night and for periods during the day rather than constantly checking-in.
I wonder how I'm going to cope when I get back to full time work on Monday (that 100% upvote was a 're-sign in accident BTW, it's now happened 3 times this week with various people, when the damn weighting resets itself).
Might have to revert to 'bants' for a few more weeks until I leave.
Edit - I was replying to your reply above! Not this one.
send me the link @revise
hay que dar para recibir...
As I’ve said previously, I keep my expectations low. But as far as comments, if someone doesn’t respond and I made a lot of effort to reply thoughtfully, then I almost always move on. I usually wait a bit before I unfollow. I know it’s hard to reply to your followers. So I’ll be one less for them to have to get to. :) I don’t come onto steemit to join a fan club, I’m here to engage.