The frontier of physics today is the Grand Unification Theory.
It is an attempt to combine general relativity and quantum mechanics, so that one equation is enough to mathematically describe everything in the universe. Having interest in the subject, I went on pouring through multiple journals, constantly following up on latest developments in the Large Hadron Collider, and always attempting to understand the counter-intuitive and exotic weirdness of quantum physics.
Recently, I've been wondering about the equation for consciousness.
Is there something abstract enough to describe it?
Consciousness is a hard problem.
Going through tons of materials online on the topic of consciousness yielded no interesting insights - the topic seemingly too convoluted for my minimalist mind. Sure there are both theological and cognitive explanations. But these are rather coloured by philosophical assumptions.
Personally, I think subjective consciousness is the same as objective consciousness. There's no real way of telling what you might've thought or acted differently at each slice of time. This is the point of debate when it comes to free-will (which will be my next post). So I took a look at quantum mechanics.
The very nature of quantum mechanics itself cuts deep into the core of fundamental reality. All manner of bizarre occurrences like quantum entanglements and seemingly random quantum states have been tried and tested to be true. All these have been a staple for the inner workings of lasers, MRI scanners and other practical technologies of this century.
Perhaps, the key to understanding consciousness is to pry into our human brain and explain it in terms of neurons and its interactions. It is in my best understanding and opinion (without the need for mathematics and the invocation of theological explanations) to be able to describe consciousness broadly as the experience of the senses, generated by the complex soup of neuronal activities in our brains. The sum of the neuronal activities in your brain at any given point in time is exactly the sum of your conscious experience and subconscious processes.
The deep-rooted problem with this have always been in the very nature of consciousness trying to understand consciousness itself.
Any theory about our consciousness cannot disregard the fundamental reality itself as described by both general relativity and quantum mechanics. So the only way for it to be understandable, it must fall within a combination of both scale-adaptive equations. The two major reasons to think of consciousness in this way:-
- Our immediate consciousness works within the realm of general relativity
- Our brain's neuronal activities fall within the realm of quantum mechanics
To bridge the gap between the nature of neuronal activities giving rise to our consciousness, there has to be a link between both concepts of time-space and wave-particle. Another consideration for the nature of consciousness is to have the speed of light taken into account as well, for it is the speed of information transmission - neuronal activity. This perhaps could only be solved by De Broglie's equation, a formula that could accommodate the understanding of both realms in this fashion:-
- E = hv (E being energy, h being Planck's constant, and v being frequency)
- Wavelength is inversely proportional to the momentum of a particle, or more simply explained as λν = c (λ being wavelength, and c being the speed of light)
- Frequency of matter waves is directly proportional to the total energy E (sum of its rest energy and the kinetic energy) of a particle
Without elaborating much onto the radio nature of our brains, De Broglie's equation is in line with the understanding that our particulate neuronal activities generate brainwaves, with its major waves being dubbed as alpha, theta, and gamma, as you may have heard. In quantum mechanics, each particle has its own field of effect. This is certainly not science fiction, as there are already plenty of brainwave applications being implemented these days.
To formulate a consciousness in conjuction with De Broglie's equation, an understanding of the big and the small must be established.
The four important things to keep in mind when trying to understand general relativity:
- The frame of reference regards the concept of space and time
- The speed of light is fundamental to space and time
- As the name of the theory implies, space and time is relative
- Our consciousness are suited for perceiving the effects of general relativity simply because we have evolved as a fairly large-scaled organism.
The four important things to keep in mind when trying to understand quantum mechanics:
- The frame of reference disregards the concept of space and time
- Space and time could be replaced with interference and coherence
- Waves are really like particles, and particles can also be like waves
- Our consciousness are not suited for perceiving quantum physics simply because we have evolved as a fairly large-scaled organism.
By combining the understanding of general relativity with quantum mechanics, I think I may have arrived at wet-market equivalent of the equation of consciousness. The following equation is in no part of any philosophical and theoretical consequence, but instead, it comes in part of quantizing all matter and energy in the form of De Broglie's equation for wave-particle duality:-
In the end, our consciousness could be mathematically expressed in terms of brain function. It comes back full circle as the expression of energy.
Cnow = h x f
In which Cnow is the unit of your conscious experience at this infinitesimally small moment in time (that can't even be defined by moment, but rather, your mind's interaction in regards to the illusive space-time continuum), h being Planck's constant, and f being the unit of frequency. What does this really mean?
The easy one to look at is the conscious experience that occur during life and death. The concept of life itself is an accumulation, an abstract construction of Cnow and the previous Cs in which is subject to the wave-particle fluctuations in part of your neuronal activities. Death is zero fluctuations, zero frequency, the death of the brain implying zero consciousness, which well, makes sense.
Here's the interesting part: h, being Planck's constant, a quantum of action, can be equated to h = 6.6262 x 10^-34 J.S. Our average brain activity takes up about 400 calories = 1670 Joules per day. This means the cost of your consciousness amounts to roughly 0.02 joules in a quantized instant. This really means that an average of 30 nonillion (30 followed by thirty zeroes) fluctuations happen in your brain in a in a quanta to give rise to your consciousness.
Roughly assuming that the total number of neurons in the brain being used up in a second is 50%, the average fluctuations per neuron amount to 0.6 quintillion (6 followed by 20 zeroes) per quanta. Your consciousness, if quantized, could still be only resolved into a continuous stream of experience. Simply because our consciousness could only perceive such an experience without any discontinuity.
0.6 quintillion fluctuations per quanta is a mind-boggling amount, considering that modern CPUs only currently work in the gigahertz level. And that's gigahertz, which is in per second! Our brains are at least a trillion trillion trillion times faster in performance. If you consider the richness of your consciousness. Try now - switch the channel(s) of your "consciousness" and query the following:-
- ability to resolve reality with incredible detail and depth
- ability to have an imaginative mental life
- ability to experience through multiple senses at the same time,
- pattern and prediction modules running at background and foreground
- your behavioural daemons running silently to keep your body in check
.. it's no wonder that our brains are immensely capable machines.
To keep this formula in check, let's revisit De Broglie's formula E = hv, which after
playing around with other formulas ends up being C = h x f (which is essentially the same), remember Einstein's equation of E=m x c^2. Plugging in, it yields to be C = m x c^2. The speed of light is a large number, hence the mass will be a very small number. How small? Quantum physics kind-of small, which relates to the neuronal states of mass and energy, or particles and waves.
In a way, our unit of consciousness C is in proportion to the number of neurons that we have. Incidentally, the human brain contains the most neurons in the animal kingdom (and most saturated too). The lower the C, the lower the level of your consciousness. A bacterium that only has the consciousness of 1 unit to detect light and dark inadvertently contains only low amounts of fluctuation in its brain, which probably doesn't allow for it to be sentient and be aware (in the sense of free-will).
One final musing
Will artificial intelligence ever come to a point that it attains the kind of consciousness that we have? The formula C = h x f shows that a high amount of fluctuations are required to simulate the kind of consciousness that we have. Software usually only operate in series, not in parallel. A series system implies unity. A parallel system implies chaos, which really represents the structure of our brain and its internal neuronal connections. So in a way, robots need to have an immense network of parallel-type systems to simulate our kind of consciousness (emulating our ability to cross-disciplinary connections).
While this isn't a necessarily practical or a life-changing equation, it says plenty about our consciousness in a simple mathematical form that in my opinion, obeys the laws that govern our universe. It doesn't contain any form of meaning and purpose in attachment to our consciousness, because there's no way of quantifying them into fundamental mathematical equations.
So wtf is consciousness again? I don't know man. Maybe it's not even the right thing to ponder about. For me, the entire state of your brain is your consciousness, and you experience consciousness frame-by-frame.. as time pushes you forward (rudely) without your permission.
It's fascinating how, basically, our brain cannot figure out itself. We are conscious about our consciousness, but cannot understand our consciousness.
I remember reading a story on reddit where a person was having a surgery that involved her brain being visible, so she had asked her doctor to take a picture of it.
Its like the person was asking a selfie of her true self. :P
The true self is the heart, not the brain. The heart takes information from your environment. your brain takes information from your heart as well as the rest of your body.
LOL :)
I think, therefore I am, or so I thought.
consciousness doens't "come from somewhere".
Believing that something to exist needs to have a cause is already a product of consciousness.
Consciousness is an originary phenomenon. It doesn't need an explaination, but it is the source of explainations.
Maybe for good reason! The show must go on, we can't have the players figuring out the game.
A lot of stuff in this article went over my head since I'm not that into it usually.
But I found it really interesting. Considering they aren't able to "emulate" a human brain into software or hardware yet, because like you stated:
I think we will be able to further expand on our knowledge of conciousness and how the brain really works when quantum computers are up and working. They will probably be able to further evolve the "emulations" we are trying to create today, and AI won't be a far reach after that, I believe.
Really interesting article, gave you a follow to read more stuff like this!
I can't wait for scientists to start using Steemit and announcing new finds and getting rewarded instantly for it. The future is very exciting!
The future is going to be nuts. I'm twenty-eight. When I was ten Nintendo 64 came out, the internet was for weirdos and no one had a smartphone.
Haha, I'm 27 so I can relate to that.
I still remember getting my first PC and being like, wow, my world just opened up in front of me. :P
Thanks man, sometimes I don't even know what i'm writing and yapping on about! Glad that you find it interesting - at least it's entertaining..? i guess.
Yes if we're gonna get true blue scientists gettin' on Steemit to do this that'll be super awesome.. :)
Entertaining to say the least, yes!
Made sure to give you a follow to read more of your entertaining writing/yapping, hehe. :)
This was so awesome and insane at the same time, half went over my head and the other have changed my perception on reality in less than 15 minutes.
@kevinwong: this is one of the best discussions on consciousness I've seen which actually discusses quantum theory without getting all woo in the process. Very well done, sir! I like to think of consciousness as an emergent property of memory, time, and our stimulus / response mechanisms including pain and pleasure. I love these discussions. :)
Emergent property of memory, time, and our stimulus/response mechanism -- man that's a good description, you've packed those words nicely! Glad you enjoyed the piece :)
A guy named PeterWotz wrote a book called blindsite where he postulated that conchessness is an evolutionary fuckup and that perhaps other aliens are intelligent without being conchess. I'd never considered that.
matter arranged in certain ways = bam, conchessness (like the way you spell it!)
I'm blind and a lot of the time if I think I'm close enough I don't spellcheck. Everything is digital these days so I'm reading less braille thus I'm seeing fewer words spelled out so I spell a lot of things phoneticly by default.
The interesting question for me is "Is what it feels like to be human what it is to be human?" There are many people who think our sense of self is an illusion.
@laconicflow I've noticed that when I dictate too. Seems saying con see us ness is the only way to not get conchshells out of it. ;)
Oh, I was typing, I just can't spell.
Thing is, trying to explain consciousness without any "woo" at all, might most likely lead to an incomplete picture.
Consciousness: is it held within the connections in the brain, or in the aura surrounding the entire body?
My logical mind is telling me that it's all in the brain, some of my experience tells me that it's not just in the brain.. : /
A theory of everything is an all-encompassing, coherent theoretical framework of physics that fully explains and links together all physical aspects of the universe. Finding a theory of everything is one of the major unsolved problems in physics. Over the past few centuries, two theoretical frameworks have been developed that, as a whole, most closely resemble a ToE. These two theories upon which all modern physics rests are general relativity (GR) and quantum field theory (QFT). GR is a theoretical framework that only focuses on gravity for understanding the universe in regions of both large-scale and high-mass: stars, galaxies, clusters of galaxies, etc. On the other hand, QFT is a theoretical framework that only focuses on three non-gravitational forces for understanding the universe in regions of both small scale and low mass: sub-atomic particles, atoms, molecules, etc. QFT successfully implemented the Standard Model and unified the interactions (so-called Grand Unified Theory) between the three non-gravitational forces: weak, strong, and electromagnetic force.
Through years of research, physicists have experimentally confirmed with tremendous accuracy virtually every prediction made by these two theories when in their appropriate domains of applicability. In accordance with their findings, scientists also learned that GR and QFT, as they are currently formulated, are mutually incompatible – they cannot both be right. Since the usual domains of applicability of GR and QFT are so different, most situations require that only one of the two theories be used.As it turns out, this incompatibility between GR and QFT is only an apparent issue in regions of extremely small-scale and high-mass, such as those that exist within a black hole or during the beginning stages of the universe (i.e., the moment immediately following the Big Bang). To resolve this conflict, a theoretical framework revealing a deeper underlying reality, unifying gravity with the other three interactions, must be discovered to harmoniously integrate the realms of GR and QFT into a seamless whole: a single theory that, in principle, is capable of describing all phenomena. In pursuit of this goal, quantum gravity has become an area of active research
@kevinwong:
I didn't see any mention of panpsychism. According to Wikipedia:
Panpsychism is my favorite philosophical question to ponder...
All that math is utterly and totally beyond me, but this is a great post. All the questions surrounding conchessness are questions I find super interesting. When I think about it I think that we are our brains, they are our humanity.
Consciousness. I like to think about it sometimes. I'm no quantum physicist or anything - but it's interesting to examine the relationship of space and time, infinite outside ( galaxies, universe, etc) and infinite inside (atoms, electrons, quarks, etc) we have to realize more than one "thing" at the same time is true.
I have no idea what it is.
For example, How am I able to remember a dream while I'm unconscious when it happens. I think it's because there's always different levels of consciousness even when we perceive nothing (unconscious) . With this being said, when our bodies have failed and our neural network is inactive, and the we reach our 'final' unconscious state - does quantum theory allow a 'glimpse of consciousness' to still exist ie; paranormal phenomenon?
As I said before, I have no idea, and now I'm going to take a nap.
ROCK ON DUDE!! Excellent thought provoking post!
-bigedude
I have no idea too, i wish a quantum physicist drops by.. lol. Glad the article has sparked something or two, thanks for spillin' some of your thoughts about the subject here :)
You just blow my mind
Funny how some people just totally ignore cognitive science. You won't find the answers to consciousness in your equations, but in empirical studies fo how the brain works, and how consciousness itself can be predictably altered by altering the workings of the brain. The philosopher Daniel Dennett in his book "consciousness explained" does a great job at providing a model of how consciousness can arise, based on subjective experience, neuroscience experiments and studies on patients with brain damage. Other big names in the cognitive science of consciousness are Gerald Edelman, Douglas Hofstadter, Stanislas Dehaene, Giulio Tononi, and they say really fascinating things, it's worth digging into this whole scientific field. No need for quantum physics here, neuropsychology will help you much more in understanding consciousness.
Great article and pictures! upvoted and followed.
What about collective consciousness?
Have you noticed something similar past 60 days?
;)
What's happening?! Tell me bout it :)
I don't think one can explain consciousness within a purely "materialistic" worldview or formula, that tries to find an "objective" way of describing something that by itself is most likely based vastly on "subjectivity".
You'd at least have to look down an interdisciplinary road, way beyond physics (even quantum physics doesn't really have any clue at all) even moving out of the comfort zone outside of mainstream science.
But that will not happen, since a lot of sectors within science are trying to seperate topics and dissect them individually instead of looking at the broader picture and it's interconnectedness.
Concepts Quantum physics is discovering atm, is stuff that shamans, psychonauts, artists etc found out hundreds and thousands of years ago. They were/are just not able to use a common, mathematical language to describe it.
Unless science and all those weird traditions and wild experimenters don't start working together, there will not be a satisfying answer.
I love i.e. the approach by Dr. Rick Strassman, trying to figute out more about all that.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0892819278
Yes personal experience is telling me that it's somewhat beyond materialistic worldviews.. :)
Mine too... :D
I prefer looking across the board, without any dogmas or strict (neither naive) believes. From science to all kinds of traditions to totally fringe areas.
Also quite like of the ideas of this guy, a former NASA physicist. Tons of videos of him on YT, btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_W._Campbell
Campbell's theory could be considered the Grand Unifying Theory but he chose to call it My Big TOE (Theory Of Everything). Consciousness gave rise to brains not the other way round. The entire physical universe, all the quantum effects, and relativity, are a simulation. This sounds crazy at first but even the double split experiment provides convincing evidence that the universe is information-based not material-based.
Now if the universe is computed then where is the computer? It can only reside completely outside of and separate from the universe itself. (The universe cannot compute itself). The difficulty many physicists have with the hard problem of consciousness is they are still looking inside the universe for answers.
Campbell's trilogy 'My Big T.O.E.' is on amazon or for free at google books https://books.google.com/books?id=RYHtBPiZVgsC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
edit: I watched his 2011 Calgary presentation on youtube first and that was enough to get me to read the trilogy.
Suppose you can remotely control a mechanical "avatar" that lives in a remote environment. You can get all its senses, you can move around the environment that is located into, etc etc.
You play for days with it and then you think you are the avatar's mechanical body. You start to identify with that mechanical body, thinking that IT IS YOU, and that the world that it lives is YOUR WORLD.
Then you start wondering where your consciousness originates... why are you conscious? You see your mechanic body but you cannot figure out where is your consciousness.
Of course you can't. Because you are not your mechanical body and your consciousness is not in your mechanical body. It is all RF-controlled. The source of consciousness is elsewhere.
Our brain is just a type of RF receiver/transmitter of consciousness for our real self that lives outside of this virtual reality. This is why consciousness is elusive. Because it's not here.
I'd rather say "because it's not there".
Good point man: when a consciousness seek for itself inside itself it's easy to reach the Truth!
This is a more scientific definition of consciousness. But in truth consciousness has to do with the mind. You are conscious of the things you do because your mind is there.
I've read somewhere excellent definition of consciousness: common knowledge, exchange with symbols, meanings of which are known to all participants.
this is amazing!!! and so educational!! thank you for taking time and doing this! :)) Allasyummyfood
Consciousness is the ability of the brain to subjectively analyze the enviroment.
You appear to be modelling consciousness as entirely physical, a product of the brain supercomputer. Well, it is, but the brain isn't just a supercomputer. It's a two-way radio, and the other end of the connection isn't necessarily in this physical universe. And even that is an overly-limited model. Can I prove it? Unfortunately, no.
You don't news to prove test, but to experience that!
My favourite explanation of consciousness currently is Integrated Information Theory.
And one prediction that theory makes is exactly what you write, @kevinwong, about how a being's measurement of consciousness is in proportion to the number of neurons that it has.
It's not easy to understand or explain, but you can read more about it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_information_theory
Or better still, watch this great series of YouTube clips with Giulio Tononi who proposed the theory:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMDgR9XqmpVT7ZJVKc_N0oKdEV3Aq7cFS
Thank you for the links. I'm checking Giulio tononi out.
Consiousness is simply neurons firing at each other in order to ensure survival.
No need for so much analysis. You give way too much credit to our existence for no good reason.
The neurons you talk about are just a concept inside your consciousness.
To understand consciousness you need to look inside your own being. Looking outside is useful to understand what your consciousness is not!
A very interesting post~
I have some valuable experience to contribute so I shall~
If you really look at quantum physics/science you will see that infinity exists. Also if you really use logic than the only logical conclusion is that infinity exists. If this is the case than everything that has ever existed or ever will exist exists. So the question of "will AI ever reach our level of consciousness" is already answered and really irrelevant. Infinite possibility exists, infinite dimensions exist and so not only does advanced AI already exist but also beings much more advanced than "humans". What we experience or believe to be "truth" is simply based on our level of consciousness. Of course this could be measured in science in some way, but what is of real importance is the experience we ARE having.
So the real question then becomes why are we conscious of what we are conscious of and not conscious of what we are not. By exploring consciousness "consciously" knowing we are only conscious of what we are and yet there is infinite more, we begin to evolve at an accelerated rate.
Ultimately what it comes down to is if we are happy or not. For when we are happy it matters not where we are, what we have or who we are with. Everything is great! Simultaneously when we are not happy it matters not where we are, who we are with or what we have. Everything sucks!
So of course happiness is relative and different on an individual basis. Yet I have fond much more success in happiness/health/love/fulfillment not by trying to quantify or define consciousness or life but by embracing it CONSCIOUSLY knowing anything is possible~
Blessings on the way~*~
Consciousness, being your forte through direct experience of enlightenment, I love that you share your perspective here Quinn. This entire post and exchange intrigues me. Kevin, thanks for raising the awareness. I'm grateful to tune into possibilities of unlimited potential and the exploration of it.
Thank you for your support and I am grateful you receive something of value from my comment as that is why I chose to invest the time in making it~
Did you read my article I posted today?
https://steemit.com/revolution/@quinneaker/why-steemit-is-so-important-and-even-revolutionary#@miki/re-quinneaker-why-steemit-is-so-important-and-even-revolutionary-20160813t024032747z
These are very much my thoughts on existence and reality. Looking at an idea like the Many Worlds Theory we have to realize that every possible outcome of every possible interaction occurs. The consciousness we experience is only navigating a single path through these eventualities. A lot of interesting ideas can spring from this view. Imagine "mind over matter" situations for instance. We can't actually change anything in reality through our thoughts, because that eventuality exists no matter what. We're simply steering the consciousness that we're perceiving into the eventuality of our choice. To modify The Matrix... I would say, "Do not try to bend the spoon with your mind, simply realize that the spoon is already bent."
Exactly!
The Paradox∞§∞
The reason why science has a hard time dealing with consciousness is because they are mistaking their abstractions with reality. It is called the fallacy of misplaced concreteness.
What scientist have done is abstracted away essential parts of reality for understanding consciousness. That is, they view the world as being composed of lifeless mechanical particles, and they do this because its useful in making predictions, such as in chemistry, but then they elevate these useful abstractions as being reality itself, which creates questions as to how can life and consciousness exist?
The truth is that the components of our consciousness exist in matter. How would you tell a man is conscious? He responds to you. In this way also, matter itself responds to stimulation, showing an awareness, showing a preference (magnetism for example), showing consciousness, maybe not the same consciousness as us, as we have an expanded and integrated awareness.
I'd recommend, if you have time, to watch this video:
Isaac Arthur just put out a new video on Consciousness and Identity:
thanks for the wonderful explanation. but you did not explain the guilty consciousness and pure consciousness.the feeling of the guilty consciousness is when a person doing any thing against the inner person, the real being, the spirit of the man, he will feel the guilty, if he does according to the will of the spirit of the man , he is pure in his consciousness. i hope this may not be matching with the mathematics. I am the servant of God , dealing it in this way in the spiritual realm. thank you sir , you are free to clarify me if you wish.
Personally I do not place a distinction between "guilty consciousness" and "pure consciousness". My guess is that the internal paths of the brain can be trained by thinking (just like becoming a master of something after 10,000 hours of training). So my explanation for guilt is simply different connections being made in the mind by events unfolding as your mind tries to comprehend the situation :)
i dont like doing fake science talk : I mean mixing facts with myths, and i think that you are doing exactly same thing.
Just stay with facts please, adding some stupid theory won't be smart.
Sorry, I've clearly labeled it under pseudoscience knowing that i'm nowhere close to being an academic/professional on this topic :). But it's been a topic that I've always thought about, and tried to explain for my ownself by self-inquiry
You can make any random connections to fit any narrative, including a "scientific" narrative. Consciousness is an interesting topic, but the relationship to quantum physics is weak.
Agreeable :) at the moment i was just inspecting the possible relationship between consciousness and birthplace of consciousness
Fascinating. However, I feel uneasy with any "equation of consciousness". Consciousness is a property of the mind, and the mind is more like a computer program than a physical thing. As such, it cannot be described by physical laws, rather it IS itself a (very complex) equation. It's connection to physics is only through the hardware that it is implemented on. In this case, the brain.
The overwhelming majority of neuroscientists agree that the function of the brain is not dependent on quantum effects.
Well, there is an attempts to build a quantum computers, and probably we're going to be still alive to see the moment when they start to imitate the consciousness - maybe not the human one, more like an animal in the beggining.
It is also a curious fact, that humans can notice the consciousness in other species, but still not able to figure out where is the point where lifeform can be counted as conscious. Or they all are?
@kevinwong Consciousness is what information feels like when it's being processed through a sufficiently complex system.
I'm surprised you went through papers on the subject of quantum mechanics and missed Max Tegmarks ground breaking paper on Consciousness simply being another state of matter.
I'm on my phone right now. Will follow up with a link to the paper and a couple of videos when I get home.
Ah i think that's an apt expression! Nice, link me up when you're free. Thanks!
Thanks!
Here is paper 1 https://arxiv.org/abs/1401.1219
Here is his second paper on it https://arxiv.org/abs/1405.0493
They are both similar but it's still worth a read.
Here is a ted talk he gave on the subject
He has a lot more out there and there are several people pursuing his line of reasoning. But this was the ground breaking stuff.
I'm planning to post a reply to you as a blog post tomorrow some time.
So stay tuned! BTW I'm following you now!
Thank you very much! Checkin' it out right now :) Link me up when the post is up!
Thank you!
Related: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind
See also Max Tegmark's book: Our Mathematical Universe
Do you have experience with ketamine?
k-holes :D...
Did you try?
Sorry i missed this, nope don't think i'm gonna try tranquilizers. But i heard there's some spiritual moments to be had!
Thanks for your reply. To take these substances is usually the job of a shaman. Like a whole village would have one shaman who is altering his consciousness to help others.
In the modern days this has changed a bit. Still, it is not for everybody. Both, shaman and non-shaman, are playing an important role for societies. The bummer is that shamans get hunted by the government since a long time. Put to jail or get killed for exploring consciousness first hand. Peace.
I like your train of thought. However - the African Elephant has more than 3 times the amount of neurons that we have.
The older you get, the more patterns you spot... and the more the fractal or recursive nature of the universe gets revealed to you. I think these can all be broken down into simple archetypes, just like plus and minus repeated gives you multiplication, and exponents and so on, there are other patterns not contained in mathematics - but in computer programming, and yet others that are too subtle to capture in code even, yet all of these stare back at you constantly as you go about your day, in the rhythms and patterns of life. Physics has found some incredibly fascinnating ones, but it's still trying to pick up grains of rice with chopsticks, held with chopstics.
To me it's all about metaphors... I'd love to be able to take the time to write about these because I've not seen anyone else crack it the way I think I can, and I think I can do it in a way that will give everyone plenty of ah-hah moments.
http://theinfosphere.org/Brain_Spawn
I don't think it's as densely packed like the human brain though, if that's the case. Thanks for dropping by your thoughts, link me up when you got your article up! Sounds good :)
Interesting read!
What a great post! I´m looking forward to your stories!
or so :)
Upvote for not being a make-up tutorial and for interesting subject, content, and effort.
Having said that, this would clearly fall under theoretical physicist Wolfgang Pauli's "Not only not right but not even wrong" category.
Or, if you like, ""What you said was so confused that one could not tell whether it was nonsense or not."
Bender and Fry gave me a heads up about this on New Years Eve of 1999-2000 when it was released.. Fry was frozen after he fell into a cryogenics chamber and thawed if not hundreds, thousands of years later. Morality of my obligational thought ( unconscious mind ) says " be careful " with this one. The ultimate goal of the brain spawn is to gather all the knowledge in the universe. This ultimately leads to the construction of the Infosphere @christoph3 @mysonjosh @katecloud @kristylynn
Truly awesome post! So much to think about here. I remember the movie "Waking Life" and "What the Bleep do We Know" -- both great movies on this subject. I've been thinking on how dating relates to this as well.
Thanks for dropping a good word. LOL that's a fun thought!
Pretty complex. Do you know much about the unified field? I don't and am very interested.
Hello.
I would like to respond to this, but to do so I will need to make a post about it. Please look forward to my post. I believe I have an answer. :)
Hi @kevinwong . I couldn't read your entire article, but I got the gist of it and saw the trajectory of it kicking in early. I just wanted to mention and share with you that you should look beyond the brain/mind. Especially when searching for COUSCIOUSNESS. Look at the heart, it has it's own neural network and inteligence, it's facinating. Each organ has it's own "mind", but only the heart can literally overwrite signals from the brain. It starts "thinking" (beating) in a fetus before the brain is even formed, is just one out of a many examples of how the heart dominates our lifes in ways you would not have thought about!
Yes maybe I should have included some metaphysical elements. Personally, I've experienced the metaphysical part of consciousness. Just don't have enough words to describe that part atm :)
Hi. The "brain" of the heart is not as metaphysical as you THINK. It litterally has it own neural network. Check out the science of cardiolagist dicoverd the past 15 years. They are doing "brain" scans and EMGs and whatnot the same way its done with the brain.
And the heart of the body is not the heart of philosophy and metaphysic. You feel things in your heart, but it is your brain generating the sensation.
In other words it is your mind playing tricks on you.
Whatever the origin of our consciousness it is essentially a collection of programming instructions gathered haphazardly, much of its assumptions based upon faulty data. One of the breakthroughs in life occurs when we realize if our particular program isn't useful we can change the code.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@codymac40/response-let-s-talk-about-consciousness-wtf-is-it-science-and-the-bible-2-repost-from-my-own-mylot-com-account-feb-2012
YAS! This was awesome :) When I clicked in I was like "oh please @kevinwong don't go woo-woo on me. An extremely interesting and entertaining treatment of the question and I love the end - NO ONE KNOWS :)
Hahah.. thanks man, glad you enjoyed it :) Next I'm gonna go deeper into the topic of free-will. That'll be interesting :D
CONSCIOUS DREAMS
https://steemit.com/photography/@edrivegom/beings-malignant-in-lucid-dreams-true-story
you incorrectly attributed calories with the speed of brain processing.