Note the table of domains in my prior comment post can be scrolled horizontally if viewed on busy.org.
Neither of you guys mentioned Graffiti (nor Graphitti). I agree that it’s not the best fit for the technological consensus ledger name, because the direct association is — at best permissionless or rebellious art and at worst vandalism — not a DAG (directed acyclic graph). Even if the user contemplates the ‘graph’ portmanteau, they’re likely to think of graphing or graph paper and not a DAG hash tree.
However, I still like Graffiti, Grߥffiti or GRƎFFITI (but not so much Graphitti) for a dApp that involves the very popular activity of scribbling on the videos (and websites/blogs?) of others:
Also the lack of comments about Nodal seems to concur with my feeling that it’s the weaker of the new names I suggested. I suppose it’s because the meaning is less well known and could even be conflated phonetically with ‘nodules’ or ‘noodles’? Or maybe it’s because the other name ideas are superior and not that Nodal is inadequate?
@quillfiller wrote:
I almost included Affinity, but I think it is perhaps a little bland; I'm not sure. Also four syllables as you say.
Agreed. Affinity is actually capable of being both the blockchain technology name and the non-technological user-facing dApps portal, because ‘affinity’ has a technological interpretation (e.g. the affinity-of-trust in the WoT) and as well the social dominions groupings (e.g. choose your own moderators and curators as I had explained earlier in our discussions). But the problem is that it’s not the strongest name for either if we only will have two names. Realms (or Realmz) is more interesting for the social dominions and the other names we’re discussing are stronger for the blockchain technology name. However, I think Affinity might be a better name than Realms for the social dominions for dApps which are intended to be more professional. Realms seems better matched for gaming and Affinity seems better for the decentralzed Wikipedia, Reddit and Medium clones.
So I’m thinking three dApps portal names:
- RƎALMS for gaming
- ߥffinity for blogging, forums, wikis
- Grߥffiti for videos and music
The three most positive reactions I have […] are Tensor, Lightning and WoT.
And Rails has some appeal for me too.
Without factoring in incorporation of Ǝ into these names, I agree those 4 names are the strongest of my suggestions for the blockchain technology name.
Personally I also like Tensor in isolation, but is likely to be confused with (currently ranked #24) extant altcoin Tezos. And it doesn’t mean anything specific (other than generally being mathematical and technological) even for most engineers and geeks. Since Tensor is just technobabble and doesn’t directly associate to any specific technological USP, I’m afraid it may become lost in the sea of technobabble names at coinmarketcap.com.
WoT means nothing for those who don’t already know. And if they google it, they will see only “World of Tanks” instead. WoT is very succinct and even stands out visually for being only 3 letters with a lowercase letter sandwiched between two uppercase letters. For that reason, it’s not as strong of a name out-of-the-starting-gate as Iota (for IoT the Internet of Things). It’s very brandable though over time.
Rails is very technologically compelling and will drive massive speculation FOMO, because it implies there’s some new technological rails which accelerate transaction latency. It’s very succinct and well known to programmers from the Ruby on Rails product. It’s very unique and stands out well compared to extant Top 100 altcoins.
Unlike WoT which speaks to some nebulous technological feature which doesn’t directly connect to needs most people are concerned about for blockchains (i.e. scaling, latency, anonymity/privacy), both Rails and Lightning associate emphatically and directly to transaction latency and scaling. I like WoT but I think it is much less compelling from a marketing perspective.
@johnnyflynn wrote:
I like Lightning, but question if it would be tainted by a clone/copycat tag that suggests it’s doing the same thing as other lightning networks.
There’s the risk of some resentment and some cognitive dissonance around whether it’s the same technology as Lightning Networks. OTOH, that can be advantage because controversy is free marketing, if the negative aspect isn’t overwhelming. Imagine all the hype and news articles that will be ongoing about Lightning Networks scaling on Bitcoin and then speculators go to coinmarketcap.com and they see only our Lightning listed there.
And remember we can rename the blockchain (as RaiBlocks did renaming to Nano) if we did launch with the Lightning name.
Lightning isn’t listed anywhere in the Top 100 at coinmarketcap.com. Lightning Bitcoin is currently #1792. And Lightning Networks isn’t listed because it isn’t an altcoin, but rather a technology that gets added to other altcoins such as Bitcoin and Litecoin. So given I expect my project to be a Top 100 altcoin (and probably Top 10 if my health allows me to work as I am capable when healthy), then many people will never see any other altcoin with Lightning in the name.
Rails has the advantage of directly stating a structural feature of the technology, which implies acceleration instead of just stating acceleration directly (with any technological hint as to how) as Lightning does.
So thus I think Rails is a superior name technologically for astute thinkers, but Lightning is more visceral and more widely understood. For example the Filipinas had no abstraction in their mind of train tracks that provide efficiencies and that tracks can aid throughput (e.g. rail mass transport systems) and acceleration (e.g. a railgun).
Very curious to read both of your subsequent feedback on Rails versus Lightning?
@quillfiller wrote:
I added the name idea WoT. Web-of-Trust is a decentralized database of relative trust where each participant keeps their own record of for example: whose reliability, which websites, or which public keys to trust.
In addition to the above, trust seems a quality in great demand at the moment, in many spheres, so is likely to draw wide appeal I reckon. In addition to that, it's catchy, concise, kind of implies protection and enquiry ("what")... and is sort of friendly-looking somehow.
Marketing is a battle against attrition. The more learning and mental steps the prospective user has to go through before they have a visceral reaction, the less effective the marketing. Trust is a nebulous concept in a garden of thorns. There’s so many different ways, contexts, and meanings that trust applies and it just isn’t a USP that people can form a bottom line analysis of instantly. Whereas, transaction latency and scaling is an instant FOMO reaction, because the lack of those features is holding back adoption.
@johnnyflynn wrote:
As a non-tech person WoT doesn’t appeal to me. It signals to me that I’ll find it difficult to understand.
(I actually wrote the above response to @quillfiller before reading your comment)
As expected. The amount of learning required just to get some inkling of what the USP is, is a significant attrition factor.
@quillfiller wrote:
Yes, everyone loves the Matrix!
@johnnyflynn wrote:
And perhaps for MATR∃X (if you go with that - which I really like, no doubt because of the movie).
Although everyone recognizes Matrix from the movie, I think this dilutes both the branding of it for a blockchain name and the novelty (and novelty being a significant factor in initial curiousity and early speculation FOMO momentum). Also there’s an extant altcoin named Matrix AI Network.
@quillfiller wrote:
Had you considered Myriad as a name option, as an alternative to Manifold perhaps?
It was only my list of name ideas that we recently discussed. You must have forgotten. It is very difficult for more people to spell correctly and remember. And is inapplicable (too general and non-technological) for the blockchain name. It was competing for the dApps name(s).
I've read it twice now. A bit more goes in each time, but alot still going over my head.
That comment post is intentionally obfuscated. Future documents will explain it more clearly for laymen.
@johnnyflynn wrote:
@quillfiller wrote:
I like the ∃ symbol; it's simple, memorable and unique. Maybe incorporate too into any future R∃ALMS logo for continuity?
I like this idea for Realms (if you go with that) […] I actually like the idea of weaving this into whatever name you choose - should it have an ‘e’ present.
Actually I had thought of incorporating the ∃ symbol into the names, but my prior attempts at registering domains with that ∃ symbol had failed because I was using the mathematical symbol for the existential qualifier.
The rules for IDN (international domain name) registrations containing Unicode characters is that you can only use characters that are classified as alphanumerics (and at least if you want browsers to not rewrite your name as Punycode in the address bar, you can’t mix characters from two different languages). So the ∃ mathematical symbol was illegal.
Employing the nifty ShapeCatcher I was able to draw the character I want and it found the similar Ǝ in the Latin Extended B alphanumeric Unicode character set (notice how at least in this font I see on my screen, the middle glyph is a pixel or two higher than in the corresponding ∃ mathematical symbol). But domain names can only use lowercase letters, so I must use Ə in domains instead of Ǝ. For text not in the address bar (i.e. not a domain name), I can opt to use ߥ (which is the Nko letter wa) instead to make it look more like Ǝ while still being perceived also as a letter ‘a’.
All the legal combinations are thus as follows:
| Domain name | Name | Bolded |
|---|---|---|
Əffinity.com (Əffinity) | Ǝffinity ƎFFINITY Əffinity ƏFFINITY ߥffinity ߥFFINITY | Ǝffinity ƎFFINITY Əffinity ƏFFINITY ߥffinity ߥFFINITY |
affinity.com (affinity)ƌffinity.com (ƌffinity) | ߥffinity ߥFFINITY | ߥffinity ߥFFINITY |
dvrsƏ.com (dvrsƏ) | DvrsƎ dvrsƎ DVRSƎ | DvrsƎ dvrsƎ DVRSƎ |
grƏffiti.com (grƏffiti) | GrƎffiti grƎffiti GRƎFFITI GrƏffiti grƏffiti GRƏFFITI Grߥffiti grߥffiti GRߥFFITI | GrƎffiti grƎffiti GRƎFFITI GrƏffiti grƏffiti GRƏFFITI Grߥffiti grߥffiti GRߥFFITI |
graffiti.com (graffiti)grƌffiti.com (grƌffiti) | Grߥffiti grߥffiti GRߥFFITI | Grߥffiti grߥffiti GRߥFFITI |
grƏphiti.com (grƏphiti) | GrƎphiti grƎphiti GRƎPHITI GrƏphiti grƏphiti GRƏPHITI Grߥphiti grߥphiti GRߥPHITI | GrƎphiti grƎphiti GRƎPHITI GrƏphiti grƏphiti GRƏPHITI Grߥphiti grߥphiti GRߥPHITI |
graphiti.com (graphiti)grƌphiti.com (grƌphiti) | Grߥphiti grߥphiti GRߥPHITI | Grߥphiti grߥphiti GRߥPHITI |
grƏphitti.com (grƏphitti) | GrƎphitti grƎphitti GRƎPHITTI GrƏphitti grƏphitti GRƏPHITTI Grߥphitti grߥphitti GRߥPHITTI | GrƎphitti grƎphitti GRƎPHITTI GrƏphitti grƏphitti GRƏPHITTI Grߥphitti grߥphitti GRߥPHITTI |
graphitti.com (graphitti)grƌphitti.com (grƌphitti) | Grߥphitti grߥphitti GRߥPHITTI | Grߥphitti grߥphitti GRߥPHITTI |
lightnƏng.com (lightnƏng) | LightnƎng lightnƎng LIGHTNƎNG | LightnƎng lightnƎng LIGHTNƎNG |
mƏtrix.com (mƏtrix) | MƏtrix mƏtrix MƏTRIX Mߥtrix mߥtrix MߥTRIX | MƏtrix mƏtrix MƏTRIX Mߥtrix mߥtrix MߥTRIX |
matrix.com (matrix)mƌtrix.com (mƌtrix) | Mߥtrix mߥtrix MߥTRIX | Mߥtrix mߥtrix MߥTRIX |
rƏils.com (rƏils) | RƏils rƏils RƏILS Rߥils rߥils RߥILS | RƏils rƏils RƏILS Rߥils rߥils RߥILS |
rails.com (rails)rƌils.com (rƌils) | Rߥils rߥils RߥILS | Rߥils rߥils RߥILS |
reƏlms.com (reƏlms) | ReƏlms REƏLMS Reߥlms REߥLMS | ReƏlms REƏLMS Reߥlms REߥLMS |
realms.com (realms)reƌlms.com (reƌlms) | Reߥlms REߥLMS | Reߥlms REߥLMS |
rƏalms.com (rƏalms) | RƎalms rƎalms RƎALMS | RƎalms rƎalms RƎALMS |
tƏnsor.com (tƏnsor) | TƎnsor tƎnsor TƎNSOR | TƎnsor tƎnsor TƎNSOR |
Note in order for the user to easily type any of the above domain names, we must also register the variant spelling that has an ‘e’ (or ‘a’) and then have the website rewrite the address bar (redirect) to the alternative spelling such as with ‘Ə’.
The domain names above will appear differently depending on which font typefaces the browser employs. You might try copying the above into the address bar of your browser for example. You may wish to view the above table also on busy.com because of the different font typefaces employed by that website. Also searching for the above domain names at name.com will display them in another font typeface.
I would prefer Lightning instead **LightnƎng (or LIGHTNƎNG).
I do like TƎNSOR and making it all caps helps it standout from extant altcoin names on coinmarketcap but I don’t know if that’s enough to make it our preferred name choice?
Whereas, Dvrse really looks horrible with the ‘e’ replaced with Ǝ even if all caps: DVRSƎ. At least with the font currently used on Steemit. Whereas, it looks okay viewing it on busy.org.
Moved the following here because my prior comment post exceeded Steem’s 16 KB limit when I added more domains to the table in said post.
I wrote to my age 19 daughter who lives in the USA:
We selected the name Realms for the website that most users will access for decentralized applications. Realms has an alternative definition, “Individual dominion over any activity or interest.”
Which of the following technological names describe a new kind of blockchain which doesn’t have blocks, and instead employing groupwise pathways for confirmation of transactions based on the affinity of trust? Or in short, fast, scalable, and decentralized via social trust.
No reply yet.
Note there’s actually a majuscule Ə (e.g.
rƏalms.comorlƏdgƏr.com) and minuscule ǝ (e.g.rǝalms.comorlǝdgǝr.com). The.com,.net,.foundationand.wsdomains support both forms. The.apponly supports the majuscule Ə.Seems everyone (even those who discussed it with me in private chat) likes the Ǝ name. So an additional idea is to just name the blockchain Ǝ, ThƎ or LƎDGƎR.
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thƏ.app/.com/.foundation/.netₙₒₜ ₜₐₖₑₙ)lƏdgƏr.app/.com/.foundation/.netₙₒₜ ₜₐₖₑₙ)Affınıty
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L⚡ghtn⚡ng
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Lϟ ̊ghtnϟ ̊ng
Lϟ ̑ghtnϟ ̑ng
Lϟ ͒ghtnϟ ͒ng
Lꝇghtnꝇng
Lꝇ ̇ghtnꝇ ̇ng
Lꝇ ̊ghtnꝇ ̊ng
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Lꝇ ͒ghtnꝇ ͒ng
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Raϟ ̇ls
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Ra⣼s
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Ra⡽s
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vȋgȋlant.com/.foundation/.net/vıgılant.app/.com/.foundation/.net ₙₒₜ ₜₐₖₑₙ)Note it’s not as critically important that users be able to easily type the domain name for the blockchain (as opposed to the domain for the dApps), as they will not be going there directly. Instead they will be accessing dApps or the Google Playstore for the mobile app(s) for the aApps.
I like where it’s going. However, I can’t decide which variation works best. L∃DG∃R probably looks best on its own. But TH∃.net is powerful as “The Net” (i.e. The new internet - I even like N∃W.net in that context)… ∃.net is also clean and descriptive of an alternative internet, and probably works most in complimenting the ‘∃’ token. Again, just not sure which works best for me - but I like them all
EDIT: I agree with you re: Lightning looking better without the backwards 'e'. And your reasoning for it overcoming any initial negativity makes good sense... And I'm also not thrilled with Graffiti in any variation - probably because of it's loose association with vandalism and rule-less activity.
EDIT2: I forgot about Rails - I don't mind it at all. But it doesn't surpass other options for me. I like the combination 'Lightning Rails' better than Rails on its own...While you seem not to be leaning toward Matrix anymore (maybe a dApp name), I reckon MATR∃X looks/sounds better than M∃TRIX (IMHO)
Edit #2, Feb 10th:
After sleeping on it, and bearing in mind the above, I'm now in favour of plain Ǝ over LƎDGƎR. It posesses a simple elegance and suggests a radical methodology at work - agreeing too with what @johnnyflynn wrote:
If you're preferring the Lightning emphasis, a name I'll throw into the pot is now rejected:
LIGHTNƎT. Admittedly only one letter away from a Python interface to Darknet I found(replacing this name after reading your latest post) and thought again, choosing LIGHTLƎDGER ; admittedly a portmanteau, which you were trying to avoid, but I think that "light" when combined in the context of the ledger implies Lightning (if that is still desirable?) while being snappier. And it is made unique and iconoclastic by the inclusion of the Ǝ. I chose to only reverse the first "E" in order to make it more easily recogniseable, while at the same time retaining its distinctiveness.Still not feeling love though for Affinity or GRƎFFITI, even though you gave compelling arguments in their favour.
Out of the two, Rails would be my choice.