[dtube] Is Steemit Just for Popular Content Creators?

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Dat Crypto Life says "I like your vids but you've got to get real about Steemit. Go set up another account where you don't have any links to your YouTube fame, with some great articles and see what happens..."


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Popular content creators will not earn a lot in steemit but I sure people will welcome them.

I joined steemit in June last year and made my first post early July. I did not know a single person on steemit, did not know of any chatrooms or discussion forums, had no audience on any platforms (apart from 400 followers on twitter, lol), and did no external outreach. Yet, my introduction post got 336$ worth of upvotes at a time when STEEM was well below 2$, 1,060 views, 333 upvotes and hundreds of comments since gone on to obtain a reliable size of upvotes on my posts ever since. All of this is completely unheard of for any traditional social media or blogging platform. There would be no way to get such traffic without lifting a finger, but instead letting the platform and community do its own thing, and it would take months to achieve a similar level of monetizing and regular following.

I then went from 0 to 400 Followers in 3 weeks, again without anything but the organic growth of engaging with steemians and receiving upvotes.

Now I feel like I have established myself well and hope I can contribute to taking the platform to the next level to compete with mainstream alternatives. I may not hit the trending page at all times, but occasionally which means I'll have periods where I get a fair amount of new steemians finding my content.

So I would consider myself a good case against those who claim that you need to be someone special from the start. All it takes is showing the determination and desire to make valuable contributions to the Blockchain and the platform, which may come in many different forms. Finally, there is certainly something in steemit also for those who are not "Popular Content Creators", but simply making positive engagements with others and contributing to fruitful conversations. At least anyone who does that on my posts are guaranteed an upvote from me.

So you seem to be a lucky one.

I'm here since a week and think it's a bit hard to get attention for the postings..even if you deliver valuable content. But let's see. A major factor might be to find a niche or be at least one of the first persons writing of comment related to a post.

I'm confident about the concept of STEEM - so I keep on posting :)

  1. Find your niche and understand who will be the natural audience for it.
  2. Ask yourself "where is my desired audience currently playing attention on steemit?" In other words: Where can I be noticed by those who I want to notice me? Whether it be bloggers in the same area, their readers, or the people who support their blog.
  3. Make good comments on their posts. Not marketing yourself directly by linking whatever you are doing. But by adding value to the conversation or discussion they are having that makes the people there interested about you.

Then you might get a few followers who will see your future posts, or people who are there might click on you to see what you're posting because they found your comments interesting.

Not only will this drive traffic, and thus upvotes, to your posts quicker than if you simply write them and cross your fingers that someone will come across it by chance, but you'll also earn more from the upvotes you get on your comments where there is a lot of people browsing than from your posts that do not get seen.

After all, it is not about rewarding people for blogging. It is about rewarding people for contributions.

That's the best advice I can give you anyways :)
(and seeing how long this comment got, I should probably do a post about it ^^)

Anyways, good luck!

Thx for the tips. I'm new here and i don't know how it really works.

I totally agree with your vision and I am hoping to add value to this great platform too !

I agree with you, enzo3785 it is hard to get attention, but I love the Steemian community.
We shall support one another and this platform.

You are so right -)

LUCK: Labor Under Correct Knowledge

Survivor bias. I have a group of 70 people and only one of them gets 2+ dollars per post. The rest get cents and they make great efforts at posting quality content and at promoting it and getting new followers.

A lot of success on this platform is likely due to the topic you write about. People who are driven to Steemit are probably aware of cryptocurrencies and therefore interested in economics, technology, and finance. @fredrikaa, your blog looks like it's about mostly tech and crypto (Steem, specifically). That probably has large interest base, here, whereas topics like home crafts and fashion might not.

agreed, there's very little rhyme or reason other than quantity rather than quality. which is garbage.

Which is still 100% more than they made on the platforms they used previously I would imagine?

You are of course right though. It is very easy to feel clever once you've made it. Regardless of whetehr it was thanks to luck or work. But then again, this will also be the case on Youtube, Instagram, Facebook etc. The point is still that it is possible without a prior audience. And also that it can happen quickly in a way that would be very unlikely to occur outside of steemit.

Lastly, I doubt it would have worked out the way that it did if not for community projects such as @steemSTEM and @ocd . There, people spend a lot of their time looking for content that deserves more. Perhaps these could be relevant also to some of the persons in your group?

Finally, the STEEM ecosystem is still young, and many more improvements will have to be made, but the community does quite a lot of good work to make it at least better.

I'm glad that you're here and I wish you and your group all the best on steemit :)

that's not even true, you get far more viewers elsewhere, investing time in STEEM is a gamble in a lot of ways - you're perhaps fortunate enough to actually get good returns on your time, the rest cannot be said for all of us. some of us put in real time and effort and produce quality content, but it makes no difference because we don't have hundreds of posts...

You're also a bit in the wrong here. You get viewers but not money elsewhere, and "not having hundreds of posts" is a problem with you, not with the community. If you want success, work for it. I myself believe that Steem is not some magical golden-egg goose, but I do believe that through hard work, perseverance and good communication strategies, we can have a decent follower-base that will generate more money than other possible jobs that would require perhaps less or perhaps more effort, but that would in the end be less pleasurable than Steemit.

Interesting, I'm new here and been youtuber for a long time. But I do see a big potential here. As everything, it takes some time for this as more people become aware of it. One nice thing is I would never have heard about this platform if it wasn't for some youtubers mentioning about Steemit and that's how I got over here.

Yeah. It usually takes people going back to where they came from to tell the others that the grass is indeed greener on the other side :). I think we're just seeing the beginning though. The rewards on posts are nice and all, but the true innovation lies in the instant and feeless transactions the blockchain enables. Something that Bitcoin and Ethereum can't do. Which means content creators and others can engage in a frictionless way globally.

Furthermore, as more Apps are built on STEEM. You will have an all in one chain for engagement and content sharing. When you store the same immutable data on a blockchain that can then be an instagram ( @steepshot ) a youtube ( @dtube ), a twitch ( @dlive ), a soundcloud ( @dsound ), or indeed a blogging platform ( steemit! ), then you can build your audience across platforms and do business in a way that would be much harder when using multiple apps that run on different centralized servers and can't "speak with eachother" as easily.

Lucky you, my posts never got more than 10usd without the bidding bots. I have the niche, but it is not that popular here. I show custom made models and toys and describe the process of creation. It is not mainstreem art or photography and no way related to crypto world so it does not get popular on the platform :(

I'd follow a real life Space Man on Steemit no questions asked. What more a Space Man that I have the honor to meet face to face during Steemfest.

Great post. I've been a member for some time and have not taken into account the value of what I had signed up for to create content. My first two posts didn't do too well with a couple of the people in the community. So I left and didn't come back until recently. I believe I may have posted once or twice over the course of two years. I'm still working on how I want to make my mark in the community. I have an idea I believe that may work. After reading this post. I feel it is time to step up my game and just do what I think I need to do. Congratulations on your success and keep pushing through your challenges. You have inspired someone. Me!

That's awesome to hear buddy!
Steem on :)

agreed, I'm posting quality content and it makes no difference, meanwhile some seriously garbage photography posts make some serious coin. no sense.

Have you looked at who is providing the upvotes on these posts?
Some use vote-buying services where they pay in STEEM Dollars more or less the same value as they will receive in an upvote hoping it will help them be seen and thus get new followers.

Others get upvotes not because people find their photos good, but because they do other work for the community and people are interested to follow and support them for it. It is not about the inherent quality of content, but about the overall contribution to the platform.

Personally, I care less about the content and more about the people and what they do to make STEEM better. However, if you do make great content, there are community projects like @ocd where you can look for support.

Your testimony sounds very encouraging. I will keep making efforts until I attain a whale status. Welldone @fredrikka

yes! Steemit is not only for video's it's for all.

You work at a space agency, that’s special enough for me😄

I joined in the 2nd week of December last year, same situation as you, and 450 twitter followers. My introductory post was barely noticed but I realized later that I made it too soon. I think it's quite a bit busier now so tougher to get noticed but I'm starting to figure things out so I feel good about it.

steemit is good for everyone

steemit is a shot in the dark, take the shot I say!

I feel like everything is a shot in the dark when its brand new. I grew up wanting to breakdance, and I felt, hey it's a shot in the dark. I went for it anyway ... and now i have some great experiences and was able to profit off my talents. A couple of years ago i wanted to get into the fitness world. I'm a skinny guy, but i figured, hell, might as well compete and see how high i can place. That is a huge shot in the dark. I think the key is how we use the time we have, whether Steemit blows up and gets us all a lot of money, or if it dies (I doubt that), we need to make the most and just dive in the deep end. We are difinitely in the right direction!

I'm in this community for some time and I really can't believe that

I'm following back and I'm sharing the content of followers organically. My account for following back is:@followback

Geri Takibe Geri Takip Yapıyorum ve takip edenlerin içeriklerini, organik olarak paylaşıyorum. Geri Takip İçin Hesabım: @followback

I agree, this is just the beginning and I'm glad to be apart of it.

Woot got a BAT fan here! I can't wait for that to start picking up.

I often hear people complain about whales ignoring them them but the reason they are not earning much is not because of whales not upvoting them but because steem user base is still tiny. If steem had the same amount of users as youtube people wouldn't care about whales because they wouldn't be so reliant on them to earn anything.
Currently a post that earned $10 was most likely upvoted by 1 whale but in the future its going to be 1000 likes worth 1 cent each that going to bring a post up to $10.
We need more people on here, that's it.

That's a fair point. My big complaint/my big reason for not creating more content is because one can only earn for 7 days (so I'll just grow my own website).

Currently success does depend on gaining the upvotership of whales (individuals or groups). Which I don't love. But 1,000 upvotes at a penny each, now that's a different story.

You're assuming that with 1000x the user base, your content is going to even be seen. That's the major complaint people have today ALREADY with recognition. Just look at trending for example. It's the same 5 people every day. Most people don't go "searching" for content, and endlessly scrolling for hours. If they did, it wouldn't already be a problem for minnows to grow.
Getting your post higher isn't dependent on user votes, it's dependent on $ amount.

@imlikett
You are right, there should be a better less "sponsored" index somewhere, I am not really interested in the 10 most popular bloggers and their articles, I want to find more pristine content... Also I am a bit uncomfortable with the google search of the site, there should be a "steemit" search... Maybe I missed something...I am quite new still...

Indeed, this is the biggest feature missing at the moment. Only the trending/new/hot tab is too limiting to find the content you want.

For example I follow the tag diving but there is no easy way to see the most popular 'diving' post for the last x months.

@pieter87
I found some really nice diving/uw-photo material here, like people who are making super high quality underwater film/documentary content, and such.

Some how feels like all these high-quality semi-popular blogpost are going to get buried... They should have like a quality index, a index of articles that are quality and actually have a higher value then just "popularity" or "over-night-sensation-fame"...

Check out the documentary here:
@bluebottlefilms/010-the-making-of-our-ocean-film-the-map-to-paradise

Yeah, I hate it when sites integrate google search. It makes it so unpleasant, as you now don't have the easy to view user layout, and instead, just a wall of text and links.

@imlikett
Yeah they should remove the google search, and create their own search function, I hope the google-search is just a beta-thing...

Hivemind will solve this issue https://github.com/steemit/hivemind
It will allow steemit to have sub-steemit similar to sub-reddit, you will have as many trending page as there will be communities

I think you're right, it's a small platform and the more people who join the potential for more votes will surface.

I do what I can to promote Steemit and to encourage others to continue even when they're not generating top pay because I believe in the value of alternative social media networking sites that are known for being against censorship and the added incentive of rewards from writing and content.

It's a wonderful platform to start getting your feet wet with cryptocurrencies, also. I know this is how I begun really venturing into the crypto world and I have learned tons of information that I most likely would not have become aware of.

Great said @luna33.
The user base is still small here.

And with time people will see how amazing this thing truly is.

agree @luna33 more people joins brings more power, which ultimately shoots up the reward result

Steemit is stilll in its early stages, trying to find a personality for itself, but it has good people behind it, creating good content. Eventually, it will find its groove...I feel that the 'money' incentive may be attracting some which feel they can make a quick buck, but it has such an attractive social ethic which will be the focus as time goes on and that attitude will become diluted

>attracting some which feel they can make a quick buck

That's the thing. People are coming here expecting to earn money in the first few days/weeks without any big community supporting them. Steemit is used by hundreds of thousands with new posts coming up every few seconds, you could make good content without getting recognition because of the amount of new posts coming up. People have to realize being part of the community is key to being successful on any social media platform. What also has to be said is that not everyone can become a whale, there will always be a majority who won't be noticed and therefore won't get any upvotes.

Well said!!! I am new myself, and steemit by far is not an easy platform to understand or use. However, I enjoy posting photos from places I travel...upvoted or no by a whaler (a steemit word I learned today) for me will not change a thing. SO LETS STEEMIT!!!

Heavens YES Steemit is for Everyone!

We made a guide to prove it. Anyone can become successful on steemit (without any investment) by following this simple guide. https://steemit.com/earthnation/@earthnation/introducing-a-simple-tutorial-for-earning-a-significant-income-on-steemit-the-steemit-minnows-guide-to-becoming-a-dolphin

Thanks for the link!

You're the reason I came to Steemit and I agree with you wholeheartedly. You're only "privileged" because you worked your tail off to build a YouTube channel which is HARD. Making a video isn't making an article... it's so much more. And then, building a following inside of YouTube beaurocracy, the immensity of competition (because the platform is SATURATED), and the sheer amount of learning you have to do to try to find ten million tips to make one step forward. I respect what you're doing here and know you've worked hard for this success. It's my fifth day on Steemit and I'm simply enjoying the community too much to care if anyone has seen my posts. Keep up the great work, you're appreciated!

What a lovely comment. Thank you Amelia :)

Thanks for pointing this out.
It is the dark truth of steemit...
Until logic of posts display changed, it is whale land - almost no place for good content creators that didn't do initial investment.
It really costs 1000$ to get your post noticed, and it is very sad :(

Hmmm, interesting perspective! I'm currently trying to figure out for myself, if it's possible to "succeed" on this platform.

The funny thing about most people complaining about not being able to succeed on a platform like this is, that they usually don't even post quality content consistently as you do, for example. And expect the same results as you. And clearly, you've been doing this for a while now. So I believe that it's mostly predicated on the consistency and the quality of the posts that you're doing - so it's not easy to succeed for everyone, it takes a lot of work. But it's definitely possible!

I've only been on for 2 days, and I can say that it's definitely possible to move up the ranks quickly.

However it can also be very disappointing when you work for an hour on a detailed post and it gets 10 views and a $0.01 profit - It quickly becomes discouraging. I rambled about it a bit earlier today:

https://steemit.com/steemit/@weaselhouse/steemit-s-troubles-a-newbie-s-perspective

I also joined 2 days ago and am satisfied so far. Note that the major portion of my steem income on here so far originates from comments on high-reputation author posts, and upvotes on these comments gained by them

I guess we're all in the same boat, also came here 2 days ago - this thing seems to be picking up a lot of momentum! So far, so good - I told myself that I need to be consistent for at least 30 days, before I jump to any conclusions about the platform, so... let's see!:)

Could you shoot an video on how to get followers and gain attention from scratch? Highly appreciated...

If You Can Make it Here, You Can Make it Anywhere

Great video!

Definitely harder for the little guy.

Man, Steemit seems like it has a lot of potential, but it is truly a matter of effort to actually direct any sort of attention to your content or your account

It strikes me as alright, since the reputation counter is easily affected with investing time into the community through comments and upvotes

Steemit's cool, I like the people here; even though I'm not making any money :p

steemit is excellent for everybody

The motivation to use Steemit doesn't necessarily need to be the money. Many users probably will use it for entertainment!

I don't think it's for everyone. But if your posts on facebook get lots of likes you should be able to translate that to here. Some people get no likes on anything they do online they won't come here and magically succeed. Most people, if they stick it out and build a following should be able to do OK

Yes, it is just for popular content creators.

Steemit is for all, you just kinda have to have fun and keep posting. The more people spend time looking around at others success instead of just having fun on here the more theyll be frustrated with the platform

I agree that it's definitely harder to get traffic to your Steemit content if you don't have a presence on another platform. That doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with having youtube fame though

And it can bring new users and traffic to steemit and that means growth... :)

Is that it though? I agree fame is one factor, but I think it's possible to gain traction on Steemit in a number of ways.

However, with that said,

in it's current capitalistic form, Steemit does not solve classism, it does not provide an opportunity for the poor, it does not reward anyone for reading the content, and it's linear progression of voting power places most of the influence on an elite few. Unless there's a hard fork which specifically addresses these issues, and so long as Steemit remains a 100% capitalistic system, none of this will change, regardless of the goodwill of the community, or any efforts made by Steemians themselves.

I still wondering how non creator would have impact? Becuase usually they don’t have many steem power.

hello, @louisthomas
Upvote & Re-steem

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One of the challenges I've found is convincing people to sign up for Steemit and then actually use it. I've had some success with close friends signing up, but getting them active on the platform is a different story entirely. Has anyone had this issue as well?

did not try to convince anyone, but this behavioral pattern is common for recruitment schemes that require effort for long-term benefit only, no matter if it is legitimate or not.

It doesn't sound like you have a very positive view of Steemit. What makes trying to get people to join a social network a "recruitment scheme?"

I was taling about the behavior of those invited, not those who invite, i.e. you. I was talking about that giving up rate. So far what I do not like about Steemit is its remoteness from real, fiat money. And we still live in a world where we need fiat money to survive.

Not sure what you mean by "remoteness from real, fiat money." If you define real money as just fiat, then you're going to be sorely disappointed because you're in the wrong place. Cryptocurrencies are real money, and Steem is a real functioning economy. People are using it to pay for for goods and services, both within the Steem blockchain, as well as trading it for other crypto and fiat. Not sure how much more real you want to get with it.

I would love to see how many views he gets, not only how much money.

If you view the post on steemit, as of 6:43 pm EST it's at 338 views.

Eos will go to $20 trying to break $12

I am new on steemit and this post is of great benefict to me
I love steemit

Steemit is definitely for everyone. I won't say I'm getting rich off of it, but I have found a pretty good little niche and I'm actually getting paid to post up short articles and such... more than can be said for posting on Instagram or anything!

All i do is steem.. it rocks

It's good for anyone, I started 10 days ago and already have a lot of readers. Glad that I can contribute, and also drive traffic from twitter to Steemit. I post daily analysis on alt coins... Like this one:

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@benkalashnikov/quantum-resistant-ledger-qrl-analysis-322-potential-profit

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That was a really good submission and I noticed that along time ago that people with a audience already get shot up to the top of Steemit quickly but like you @louisthomas i believe on the odd occasion you can get a good payout and if you keep at it you can grow which supprts that.

Steemit was invented for everyone
For everyone to reap from their time on the internet
But due to the fact that its not everyone who can sow and watch what they cultivated grow into fruitful yields.

I would love to point to you that steemit is not for everyone
Because to grow in steemit. One needs consistency. Hardwork and family grooming and we very well know everyone doesnt possess these traits.

Steemit is like getting pregnant. Going into the lavour room and pushing out a new born baby. Not every woman can endure these pains hence they opt for sedatives or not having a child at all.
If one is not PATIENT. He can not be a successful steemian

STEEMIT IS NOT FOR EVERYONE

If you're capable of creating engaging content, you will be successful. Those starting out expecting to make money are the ones that fail.

you've made great achievements my friend, keep going!

I think it's a good thing for everyone, but it definitely has more of a monetary impact on those with larger audiences. One of the reasons I expect huge growth from Steemit is because so many large bloggers and Youtubers are just beginning to join the platform. Give it another 6 months and Steemit will be 10x what it is currently.

agreed, the potential is incredible if you have a passion for creating quality content

It will be interesting to see how Dtube develops over time in terms of monetization compared to youtube

in fact, the most beautiful moment of life; when you think you are someone who connects you to life when you give up everything."It is important to find someone.I hope everyone finds that one and lives a happy, peaceful and healthy life...
Thanks for sharing..
Thanks to everyone who comments :)

Excellent publication, a pleasure in reading and greeting you, follow me to be in constant communication I also hope that my posts can be of great help. success!

Steem is great the ones with the best content are shinning through hands down. #hardworkpaysoff

All I can say is that the struggle is real on #steemit ! It would be great if the bigger earners of this community could help the smaller ones. Afterall, giving like and resteem posts costs exactly the same both for the big earners and smaller ones - 0 likes.

Humanity is greedy - everyone expect to be helped but they don't help others. It's unfortunate.

Great post! I agree

It's always hard work building an audience. No matter where you go. I have lots of followers on instagram....but that doesn't mean they'll come here. I treat every platform differently....but could be just me.

Steemit is good for the soul! Like water.

hi thanks .
im new.
en like to learn more.
en upload kickbox videos.

Been following you on YT. Nice to know you are on d.tube.

What's there to say. You guys are just doing as you please.

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