What vote weights do you use when up-voting content?

in #engagement6 years ago (edited)

Who's in for some more pies? A graphical representation of the vote weight you have used to up-vote content in 2018.

https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmTZ1CBdLQQ6tzj4GVwArbVuBy5iyx4UaCWUTxwipMadBA


Anything tailor made to each of us is going to go down well. That's what's so valuable about them. A lot of data gets pulled, but when it doesn't specially have anything to do with us, it's just abstract information waiting to be applied. So, when you pull a list that we can see numbers of what we're individually doing and how that stacks up with others is very much welcome as far as I'm concerned. @glenalbrethsen - 2018

This morning I finished off the last couple of pies for the posts put out last week, I wonder if anyone would like to see this one?

Vote weight is used for those who like to take care of their Voting Power. I say this because some community members are not so worried about this percentage, and continue to vote when the VP % looks something like this:

Please don't request a pie if this is you!

Keeping your VP at a reasonable % (80%+) means you can recharge at a faster rate, and continually give out higher voting values.

If you are a small account < 500 SP, I am inclined to think that at present, you are voting fewer times each day with a larger vote weight, than a larger account which holds say 20000 SP. Doing this should improve your curation rewards take, and reduce the possibility of you giving dust votes out to comments ( < 0.03$).

With regards to curation rewards, it has been seen on many occasion in the Curation League, that an account with less than 500 SP has scored well voting 70 times a week. 10 votes a day at 100% vote weight, keeping the Voting Power up well into the 90%s.

This hypothesis could well be a load of rubbish, the pies will tell all!

What would be useful is that if the person requesting a pie, provided their current active Steem Power (including delegations in/out), so that it provides a bit more information for me, and the people passing by.

The pie will be sliced as follows:

WHEN weight > -1 and weight < 500 THEN '< 5%'
WHEN weight > 499 and weight < 1001 THEN '5 - 10%'
WHEN weight > 1000 and weight < 2001 THEN '10 - 20%'
WHEN weight > 2000 and weight < 3001 THEN '20 - 30%'
WHEN weight > 3000 and weight < 4001 THEN '30 - 40%'
WHEN weight > 4000 and weight < 5001 THEN '40 - 50%'
WHEN weight > 5000 and weight < 6001 THEN '50 - 60%'
WHEN weight > 6000 and weight < 7001 THEN '60 - 70%'
WHEN weight > 7000 and weight < 8001 THEN '70 - 80%'
WHEN weight > 8000 and weight < 9001 THEN '80 - 90%'
WHEN weight > 9000 and weight < 9501 THEN '90 - 95%'
WHEN weight > 9500 THEN '95 - 100%'

And your pie chart will look something like this:

  • The data is taken from 1st January 2018 to present
  • Only up-votes are included

I currently hold around 17000 active Steem Power, and have held at least 6000 active SP in my account since the beginning of 2018. This allows me to, in theory, distribute more votes at a lower weight whilst still providing a tick-up on the post/comment value.

I have tried, even during the recent downturn, to reward all comments voted on with at least a 0.03$ vote - which has meant voting at 3/4% vote weight, depending on how much my voting power was suffering. This is shown in the pie above clearly, but what is also shown (but less obvious to the eye) is that I will vote at 40-50% more commonly than most of the middle ranges, the same being true for and 95-100% - I have my favorites, and random posts that deserve a 'good' nudge.

I think the pie shows a wide spread of votes, with a few larger votes reserved for certain content.

Due to the additional data divisions (compared to the 4 last week), these pies will take slightly longer to bake, but I will try to get them all done before they are burned.

Please provide your current active Steem Power in your request.

Any takers?

Cheers

Asher

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Wow. Now I'm being quoted in the pie posts! Woohoo! Stepping into the big time I is. Don't quote me on that one, though. :)

Okay, so my total active SP is 2410 with 200 of that coming from a week's worth of delegation set to end shortly. My guess is, a lot of my votes are going to show up in the 20-25% weight because of the $0.03 dust threshold. After that, it's probably a grab bag.

If you wouldn't mind throwing me some pie, it would be most appreciated. :)

That's right Glen, made an edit to put the quote in - a nice booster for me to hear that these personalized data pulls are of some value.

My guess is, a lot of my votes are going to show up in the 20-25% weight because of the $0.03 dust threshold

Makes total sense, let's see...

A spot on pre-analysis, keeping the comment votes above dust and splashing the cash on the stuff you appreciate. Sounds like a plan :)

I guess we'll call it a plan. I think I need to do something different. I've only appeared once on the curation list since the first time I was given a week's delegation from krnel. This week I've had another so that will keep me off regardless of what I've done for another two weeks. At any rate, need to get better at that, and I'm not sure that upvoting comments over the dust level is getting me there. :)

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Pressure is on now to represent your chart with a pie!

Looks good to me. The ranges (required for a pie) give clues, your chart shows the exact weight and gives a reasonable representation of the number/% at each weight.

Should have left it to the master ;)

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I don't have a single 80-90% vote cast this year - might as well for for the full monty!

@abh12345 @crokkon
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My pie looks like a 5 year olds work compared to the plot graph. Thanks though!

I would love to see the 3rd Pie! :-)

My SP is 153.19 + 10.07 del.
My VP is 65% sometimes 100%
Lately I'm a 0.01 at both percentages above.
I try to keep my vote wheel no lower than 90%
sometimes it will dip into the 80%'s.
Voting CSI, 7.2 ( 0.00 % self, 110 upvotes, 47 accounts, last 7d )

Thank you @abh12345 🍰

Still a young Red fish, and likely best to be going full vote when possible

Which is the case most of the time, cheers!

Thank you very much @abh12345! ❤

I was pretty much only voting with 100% up until recently, so I'm curious to see what mine would look like. Especially because I started participating in Holger's curation league and vote on Utopian contributions mostly (which is done automatically).

Doing this should improve your curation rewards take, and reduce the possibility of you giving dust votes out to comments ( < 0.03$).

I upvote nearly all Utopian moderation comments with like $0.01, does this mean I am wasting it (seriously, I have no idea how all this stuff works lol).

Needed a wallet check to advise :)

Power some up! haha, just kidding.

Ok so you have 1900 SP, a 1% vote will add around a cent on. It's enough to break the curation dust threshold, but i would go for a 3 cent vote if possible - i think that vote falls into dust for the author.

Would be interesting for you to monitor curation rewards based on your old style verses new. You can see in the chart what you described above :)

Personally I like to see someone, who perhaps doesn't have loads of time to curate, sticking bigger votes down.

I also think that upvoting mod/cm comments is a good plan (especially if they are tipped ;) )

Pie-time!! :0)

Here's my SP math: 5,392.95 + 791.88 - 2,669.33 (of which app. 1000 is on its way home)

hahaha :D This one needs to be at the top, hopefully the pie is as good as the gif!

I see you like your pies sliced many times. At around 3800 active, plenty of options with vote weight but nice to have a majority going out in small batches, and some big ones being utilized too!

Thanks , Asher. One more for the collection :0)
It looks like there's a pretty good balance...

I'm manually voting posts with 100% and comments with 20-60%. With automated votes at Steemdunk.xyz I'm using 30-60%.


Please make this chart for me too. I have 2199 active SP.

Sounds like a fair set-up with 2200 SP..

Looks like you are/were also using a lot of smaller votes too!

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Thanks guys!

I thought you'd had enough of pies for now Asher. The post is 7 hours old and mine is the 84th comment. You might miss Krakow with your baking obligations at this rate lol. Nonetheless I'm joining in the free-for-all, so please Mista, can I have some more?
Thank you sir!
Stats: 452 + 170 SP ;-)

7 days have passed since the last pie festival. Just about enough time for a recharge :)

Minnow status on the books...

Good to see max votes going out at this SP :)

Thanks Asher :)

I'm going to get myself another 50 quid's worth of Steem once my coinbase allowance recharges fully, so I'll be 500+ very soon. Just a number, but it does coincide with a phase of feeling at ease with everything blockchain related - 8 months, guess that was how long it took me to begin to be free-flowing and comfy.

PS. love the support you're getting for Krakow, but in general too! As you see, it's not drama, simply how folk feel, and this feeling is strong enough to give expression to when the excuse to do so is provided. No drama anywhere, just radiating good vibes zooming in on the Number One Numbers Man lol.

You are not far from 500 SP at all - that last 100 has moved quickly or did I get my sums wrong? :D

I've had some really great messages on Smooth's post, and marly has just put one out today. I need to do a video for that contest :(

Thank you for your support too!

Well, It's been moving quite quickly since June, when I figured out how to convert £ to Steem. I also had around 100 Steem sitting which I had bought for a friend, but I wanted to make sure he had his p/w before transferring lol.

I saw Marly's vid, which is where the 'Numbers Man' came from :) ..... she also make a rather astute observation on the photo of yours, where you have all but cut yourself out of the frame! It's all part of that other 'sub' conversation re being self-effacing.

You are warmly welcome Asher, and I thank you for yours!

Yes she did make that observation 😊

There's no hiding from the video for openmic and a Steemfest ticket though, warts and all for this one, including mosquitoes, and tile splitting in the background.

Cheers @barge, 500 club coming soon - I see @curie have stopped by 😎

Hey Asher, just watched your vid. I noticed you swipe the mosquitoes although I didn't spot the tile-splitting (I had mis-read 'spitting' and was expecting a human being lol). As for the 'warts', didn''t see them - instead saw a 'very nice guy' who expressed himself courageously through his diffidence in self-presentation :) - the content excellent and relevant and pretty much to the point (no rambling). Suggestion for 'next such video' - rehearse it in front of the mirror first. This way you can spot were you are getting in your own way ie reducing the impact of what you are saying through lack of confidence in self, kinda thing - are these the warts you speak of I wonder!

Another thought I wanted to convey to you was the possible self-doubting impression you may have occasionally had that people are only interested in (or state their appreciation for) what you can do for them ie that you are useful, full stop. I'm fairly confident that you may have had such thoughts Asher, although do forgive me for speculating like this about your subjective state :) ..... anyways, I hope that the recent flood of support for you clearly shows that this is not the case!

And, that's me in the 500 club now, just got another 64 SP for £50. I did a little ho-hoo in celebration, and now that's that lol. Thanks so much for your support and delegation - although it didn't take me long to assist the process of getting to 500 by converting fiat, the delegation has given me a real boost and motivation - and confidence too :).....I've now got a slider (although I use Steempeak anyway :) and think I'm now part of that 1% that Taraz pointed out in a post some time back.

And the few Curie votes I have received over time is another real boost, a vindication of my whacky self-expression :D

Hey Asher I've delegates 25 to UA and I see that is been deducted from the amt you delegated to me. .It doesn't feel right to profit like this and it isn't really in the pif spirit in which you delegated to me. Since I also now have a slider lol - which the del was intended to help me to, I happily can acknowledge completion. I think you had mentioned end sep as expiry date anyway.

This has been a boost Asher in more intangible ways than numbers, thank you very much my friend :-D

Really very wonderful information
I did not know her before
Thank you for the wonderful effort

5 W + 1 H, that the best strategic to make a content for writer in steemit.. 👍

I try to keep my vp around 80% whilst giving out plenty of votes, so I adjust the percentage appropriately. I try to reward all the good comments on my posts. I've delegated out half my sp for others to use as I'm not so worried about curation rewards.

Sounds like a fair approach to me :)

You have about 7000 SP active due to delegations, so it makes sense that you're vote weights are a little more spread out than mine. Cheers!

I don't really have a choice when choosing my voting power,

Well on SteemPeak I have a choice, but I usually just 100%

Most front-ends offer it, just not Steemit.

Yep, almost exclusively 100% votes :D

Wait these are my votes ?

I have done over 4k votes ? LOL :D

I find it pays to people being upvoted if you let the VP be near full, rather than upvote till VP hits <20%
Active steem power is 2597. 532 :)

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Same here, < 20% will take 4/5 days to recover!

Half way to dolphin, and some room to maneuver with your vote weight, which is clearly shown in this rather pretty pie chart!

Oh yeah, plenty of room to do that. Thank you.

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Hi Asher. I kind of know what mine will show as I have been struggling with my VP for about 6 weeks now. I try and leave something behind each time, I am currently giving out 50 % votes.

Don't struggle, just don't vote for a day or so :D

You can see that you are trying to leave something, switching from mostly 100% to 50. I would hold off until you can get into the 80s/90's again. Cheers!

Thanks Asher. I might just do that now. I am at 75% and by tomorrow will be better of for myself and all the others I support.

i have vote value 0.004. So when i use for any contest i give it a 1 hundred percent ;) . Don't know about the future if my power will grown up.

75 SP - Best to vote 10 times a day at 100% I think, and work on the comment game :)

Just as easily shown in a list for you, I hope that's OK. And you are voting mostly 100% which I think is right for your account at present. Good luck!

Hi @abh12345 , thanks for the info. i think i should use it daily with my SP even though Power is not much :) and nice suggestion of comment game ;)

This would be interesting to see as up until last month I hadn’t thought about moving the percentage much as I had left it at 50 and 100%. However, as I have been committing to engage more across the platform, I have seen the benefits to go down to 20% in some cases to spread the rewards while remaining relevant to the authors. Thanks!

Lovely self-assessment and vote management, let's have a look!

No votes at all in half of the ranges (these are the ones now showing in the legend), and only a few votes in anything other than 40/50% and 95/100%.

Pretty much how you explained it, cheers!

Thanks for this most informative post. Noob question: How do I find this info on my account? Tx!

More pie!? 🙈 I cannot resist...

My current active SP is 800

I'm sure you cannot :P 800 SP, seems like you will likely want to vote near full power........

Pretty conclusive, everyone gets a full up-vote!

I’m an all or nothing kind of girl apparently 🤷‍♀️

Thanks for the visual!

Hit me Asher.

Will do!

Lots of big votes earlier in the year and now a bit more room to change it up with that delegation?

Yep. Delegation really helps!
Only 1 steemian, besides myself, now gets the 100% upvote to lift his account!
In the beginning also did foolishly participate in contest where a 100% upvotes were required!
Staying away from them now!
Thx Asher

Yeah breaking out of Red fish mode is much more fun.

100% up-votes required, tut tut (against TOS that!)

Oh interesting... let me know about my vote habits ;-)
My SP is 3240.
My VP is 86%
Thanks a lot!

Of course @steemitri, welcome to the bake-off :D

A good mix of top votes and a set of smaller votes for a medium-sized minnow, nice!

Active Sp is 180. 48 Right now I am at 80% I am always up for one of your pies. I am sure mine is a mess. Working hard to earn more sp so I can vote more. Lets see what adjustments I need to make in the meantime.

It would be the tidiest pie so far, no slices removed :)

I assume you use Steemit and not other apps that allow for the vote power slider earlier than 500 SP?

All good though Steemit inc clearly don't want small votes - have not brought the slider in and HF 20 is another show of dislike towards them. Good luck building up :)

Thanks I did experiment with the slider a little. I feel my vote is already small enough the goal is to make it bigger. The engagement has added a very nice boost to growth, even below top ten level.

100% votes just about always from me. Usually I wait for my power to recharge into the nineties before voting again.

If you share some pie with me, can I share it with others in my recent 1st Year Steemiversary post?

Ding!

Some pie for your Steemiversary, alright then :)

Yep that seems to be the case, full speed ahead! And nice one on the 1 year attendance record :)

Bonus numbers for good luck...

I never give out votes less than $0.03 as they are not very useful. We do have @dustsweeper but if the recipient does not use it then they are again, dust. Also @dustsweeper does not collect all the dust, so to speak, just some of it.

If there's any less than $0.03 I will be surprised, or maybe my finger slipped. :)

We do have @dustsweeper but if the recipient does not use it then they are again, dust.

Exactly, I don't keep a list of who's in the dust program so would rather try and get the vote to $0.03.

Around 5300 active SP, your finger slipped 5 times in 6971 attempts, probably still easily avoided being dust earlier in the year :)

Unfortunately I noticed almost immediately some in my circle began using the dustsweeper to give super low votes, leaving the responsibility to those they were commenting on to make it worth anything. For just that reason, I quickly stopped using the dustsweeper and they throw the small percentage away now if they vote my comment, as well as have stopped themselves from getting a vote back from me. I notice some of them might be doing it to be more active in your engagement league, and it is a shame they think they are helping themselves while creating for some of us a bad image of their interactions here.

I usually try to give a .03 upvote, although sometimes I will give the full 100% upvote for an outstanding post, or a worthy cause.

It's a shame to think that this might be the reason. The votes do not impact the score in the league as much as the majority of the metrics.

I think I missed my @dustsweeper reminder message as I also get a fair number of $0.02 votes but they aren't being topped up. $0.03 is the way to go if you can.

What, is there a way to upvote for 150%. I got 400 SP which I'm proud :( so even I become a minnow my votes still be dust. Dude that's encouraging.

... is there a way to upvote for 150%.

Nope, did I type that somewhere!?

Dust on a comment, but added to the worth of a Post :)

I think it's a good decision to keep most of your votes at 100%. Cheers!

Currently I'm voting for 0.02, you mentioned 0.03 is dust. I guess investing ~500USD worth nothing.
Thanks for the graph, I was upvoting some comments with 50% I guess I should start to vote with 100.
Okay, here is a quick question. This dust votes means I'm not going to get any curation rewards or the author who I voted for gets nothing?

$0.03 is ok, below is dust.

There are 2 types of rewards, author and curation. The dust vote in question is the author reward. I think :)

I'm pretty sure I've been consistently averaging 20% upvotes. That's my default anyway. Occassionally I'll go higher or lower.

I added a lot of SP a month or so ago, so my figures may be distorted by that if you take the whole year timeframe. My current SP is about 10,200 with 400 delegated out.

hey hey, 10000 SP - welcome to the less than 1% club :D

Big votes and small votes win the day, perhaps as you say the addition of SP has changed your habits and given a mixed pie. Thanks for your request!

Wow, I’m giving out much bigger upvotes than I thought. Maybe my 100% auto voter votes are throwing it off.

Ok, hit me (with your rhythm stick). Am curious.

Slow and quick? Story of my life...

10k SP. Some nice slices of pie you have there @smasssh :D

Yep, you sure know your "classics".

Looks rather divided to me. Thanks Asher.

S'il vous plait? 😎

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The account has been at 500+ SPs since the New Year or a little later in the winter. Bought in when at about 46SPs if memory serves.

Delegations : -71.323 STEEM

Plenty of stats, that's what I like to see :)

It seems like you prefer to go half in with the vote - for comments they could well be dust but it works if you think you can get round 20 posts per day. Cheers!

My chance to influence reputarion always seems the best reward my account can give with its present stake. Thanks for the chart!

I’ve been horrible at managing my VP these days. Still I am interested in knowing.

I am so hungry for pie right now.

Let's take a look at the action..

Quite a wide spread of voting weights for 1000 SP I think when compared to other charts.

A fair amount if I recall would have been from trying to give comments 2 cents or pushing posts over 2 cents. I gave up on the first part with current rate of things. Was taking a little too much VP to do it.

I had a couple of tags I use to speed run down trying give them all al little something for their efforts as well.

Thank you very much.

Hit me with a pie please! I'm on vacation and haven't been on steemit, but caught this during my lunch break. Thanks ahead!

My stats: 640.41 SP + 126.49 SP - 110.21 delegated out.

@beeyou, young minnow status, let's see..

Those small votes wont count for much at present (maybe earlier in the year) but it's nice to see the 2nd highest range being the full Monty :D

Those <5% are from following the friendsofgondor trail. It was mainly for moral support from back in the days. I wonder if I should simply stop until I can give out a valued upvote.

Thanks Asher!

Ahh yes, those are small votes. I'm not a fan of trails, and won't join one. But it's your decision of course 😊

I feel the same way with trails too. I know a bunch of us joined the FOG trail back then for moral support during the flag wars. It’s about time to stop those tiny votes. 🙂

What the hell, pie me!

1,648.22 SP ( 2,775.07 + 202.65 - 1,329.51 )
This is the true value after delegations in and out, does the total matter or just the weighted value?

1648.22 is what matters, but I don't think you need my assessment on how you should be voting :) Let's have a look....

Fairly low %'s for current SP/prices, perhaps most were earlier in the year or when you had less delegated out. Just guessing :)

Look's like I need to adjust, I try to keep votes the same regardless of the current value but it looks like with it this low I am wasting votes.

Glad I asked. Thanks for this.

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Is it to late to get a pie. would like to see how I do

Plenty more pies available...

1100 SP, got a bit of space for variation. Most of those low votes might only dust comments though? Nice pie!

I basically just leave it at 100%. I'm a small account and the price of Steem is low, so a lot of the time that is the only way I can actually give people even one cent. I'm glad to do it though - and I try to keep from totally recharging. I'm too small to get much curation, but I'm glad to at least make a difference for other people.

I'd be curious to see a pie (especially if I can use it in an article). My current SP is 14.7 + 71Delegation

If it's at 100% (probably the right thing to do with your current SP), then the pie will look quite plain..

If you really want a pie let me know :)

Let's do this! 527.31 SP

Just into Minnow land, those deepdives working for you :)

Probably still best with big votes, but hopefully soon more slices could be an option.

Yep definitely...hopefully that wont be too far away:} Thanks!

Having a low SP (~180) it is so frustrating try to figure out how to distribute votes fairly! Especially during those times when I am very active on the site. I try not to let my VP fall too low, which involves not voting very much. But, then, when I find something I really like, I instinctually vote, and then that continues to happen, or I feel bad about not voting on something else, or if I comment on something that has not yet received many votes... bla bla bla

It's really tough. I dream of the day when I can slide that number around and still vote above the dust :)

It is really tough to distribute votes under 500 SP. The main focus until your account grows is to make it grow via engagement - follows - votes. Let's have a look....

The expected outcome and right thing imo to be doing at present :)

11.232 SP (+3.768 SP) though I am a newbie and would love to learn more.

Usually I give 100%upvotes

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100% is the best for starters, when you get to 500 SP then it's time to consider other options. Good luck!

Thanks.

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When you get a few extra minutes, and you have time, I would love for you to make me one of these pies. I hope it's as flavorful as yours.

Sorry for the late reply John, here you go:

This makes sense with your current SP, cheers!

Thank you kind sir! You truly are simply the best!

my would be 100 % for sure lets check it out :D

You own the steemworld screenshot in the post!

And yes, 99% are 100% votes... with 7% Voting Power and not much SP!

Congratulations @abh12345!
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I had a pretty busy day yesterday, and missed the post, however if during the week you get bored, yes another pie would be fun. With the steem price down, (but beginning to recover now), it will be interesting to see, especially with the wide price range these last 8 months.

657.289 SP - Current Votable SP
(721.428 + 51.134 - 115.274 ) from Steemworld

Still catching up here :D

Seems you are giving out a fair amount of dust votes on your SP, although those 10/20%'s could be from earlier in the year. Cheers!

Thanks, yes most of the smaller level ones were earlier in the year when 20% would give a two cent vote, lately most of them have been in the 55-65% range on comments, that's been the 2 cent threshold lately, the smaller votes below 50% go mostly on post that I want to comment on. That and I did have a lot less SP back then also.

Yeah tactics change with SP growth, good to see. Wonder what pies I can do next...

Maybe a table of growth, remind everyone where they were SP wise on the first of each of the last 9 months. I know I don't remember what SP I had on the first of September, let alone on the first of Jan. and coming into 9 month time frame, how many redfish on 1/1/18 became minnows on 9/1/18. I'm just guessing of course that SP amounts are like everything else stored somewhere.

You got a 41.24% upvote from @ocdb courtesy of @abh12345!

I’m a bellow 500SP account and I try to max out my votes every day with curation and even stopped self upvoting my posts to give more VP away and I’ve seen I’ve been getting more and more curation rewards not sure if I’m just getting better in finding content but im getting a lot more curation rewards and more often since the prices hit sub dollar

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Makes sense then that your vote weight should be high...

Yep, looks good to me!

I like this. I have about 3600 SP in my main and about 8000 SP total. I try to always keep my VP above 80% but sometimes I get carried away and it will fall into the 70's. But thats the great part, it only takes time to replenish it

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