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RE: Some thoughts on children and the growing hate towards children in the West

in #family7 years ago

Good thoughts, however I don't think the 'hate' is growing. It's essentially self-limiting: people who don't want to have children won't have children and then there won't be any more people who don't want to have children. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I think birth rates are up among Europeans, although still below the replacement rate of 2.1%.

China has abandoned it's one child policy and you can look at religious sects like the Shakers or the Oneida Colony to see the inevitably disastrous outcome of this form of control.

I think that the social engineers would have been more successful if they had created a scenario where women raised children collectively à la Huxley's "Brave New World". I don't think they expected men to drop out and start YouTubing. As it stands neither sex has any incentive to participate and the only choice is to opt out.

Perhaps I should elaborate my thoughts in a post of my own?

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I think my point was that a lot of people who actually HAVE children doesn't seem to want them..they only complain, moan and never do anything with them. Everything is on the parents terms, and it's all just crying, fighting and tired parents and children.

Yes, the birthrate in Europe is less than 1,5 actually, on average. It's mainly due to feminism and the lack of religion IMO. Feminism has resulted in generally speaking a lot of sour and offended women who cry about men spreading their legs (in order to sit comfortably..because of well..balls ((yes, some western men still has those things)). Women in the west crying about not real issues. They just make things up like the wage gap. Women in the west have essentially100% the same freedoms as men, and it is by LAW.

Still, they moan and complain (in general, not all women) At the same time they are chanting for Islam and refugees and diversity. They are literally inviting in men from REAL woman-hating cultures.

This has resulted in alienating white men. Women, blacks and muslims have joined forces together on a crusade against the white male. You can call him whatever you want, he is stigmaticed, not prioritized in the workforce, men issues (like being murdered and commiting suicide) is not being talked about - at best they're laughed of.

The result? MGTOW. Men going their own way. Women have so many rights that for a lot of young men the risk is just not worth it.

And this leaves frustrated confused women to themselves wishing for more migrant muslims and more moaning.

What they really are is miserable.

And now, white men are just like..well, you know what women? We're going John Galt on your asses. You deal with this shit you created. Here is the key..y'all have a fun time with your muslims and communism. We're just going to lay on the couch playing playstation and drinking beer..good luck!

Ah. Well in that case I missed your point somewhat, so thanks for clarifying. Still, I would like to point out (somewhat cheerfully) that the case is self-limiting. It can be observed in the more radical example of African Americans, among whom the percentage of births to single mothers is a staggering 77%. The result is that African Americans have no capacity to out-compete other groups and are therefore only a 'threat' insofar as they are able to render certain areas uninhabitable to those groups.

So, I would emphasize that for people such as you and I, the challenge represented by those who follow the lifestyle you are describing is that they are pretty crappy to be around, but they do not represent any real threat to life and limb. I realize you aren't trying to make that point, but I think it's worth keeping in perspective.

In short: the Left cannot create, only destroy. Destruction is often unfortunate but always limited to that which has been created.