This is what I was just writing on your previous post for you.
"Ever since our first child was born we knew that would never send them to school, but we also knew that it's illegal to home educate your children in Sweden"
That's an extract of what you said on your another post. When you decide to give your child a citizenship, you are accepting that they'll be receiving the rights and responsibilities coming from that country (Sweden, on this case). You say you knew it was illegal, so then why you decided to give her the citizenship? You could have planned to have her born on another country that allows you to home educate. Nevertheless, you didn't because, as you say, you love Sweden and wanted to rise your childrens here.
I have to agree with the government. As any other citizen, they are giving your child protection, backed by the law, not only from everyone else, but also from having bad parents. They are giving your child rights, and in those rights they are protected from people like you who believe a mother can teach better than a ready-for-service college.
If you wanted to "be free", you had to start by fully leaving the system, but as a whole and not partially as you want. Stop working, stop using money, stop using internet. All those things are part of the system, and you cannot just choose which laws to follow because that's not how they work. You can not decide wich ones to accept and which ones not, IF ANYONE could do that, it would be CHAOTIC. You either agree with the laws in your country, or leave and find another one according to your mind (if they even allow you to move there).
You had so many years to leave and you didn't, now that you have no time you start to worry about THE PROBLEM YOU IGNORED FOR YEARS. I'm sorry, but you sound like terrible parents for me, waiting until the very last to make a move you had to do years ago. Who knows what else have you done (or not done) to your childrens? Do they even have all their vaccines? You make me wonder that by reading all the stuff you say on your posts. You sound like those crazy parents who believe vaccines are an invention from the pharmaceutical industry and government to earn money, so they dont vaccinate their childrens and then cry when their kid dies from a disease that could have been prevented with a vaccine.
Your child has the right to go to school like any other kid in your country, and you're not letting her enjoy that right. Said that, OBVIOUSLY they have to watch for your kid, you're breaking one of her rights, and breaking her rights is child abuse. Does that answer your question about "how is it child abuse?"?
Sweden gave you rights and responsibilities, and also gives you protection outside the country, they watch for you. Imagine what would happen to you if you didn't have a citizenship? Well, if you don't, you won't have anyone to care about you. Your country gives you medical service, education, protection, and summarized, gives you rights... But to have all of them, you have to agree with the responsibilities. And one of them is to send your kids to the school. Is it really that bad? Other countries force you to send your childs to war if needed, and you're crying because they don't want your kid to be an ignorant? Because they want your kid to learn to read? To write? To become a scientist? A medic? To become useful for humanity? They're spending money on you and your kid, obviously they expect something in exchange. But that's not as bad as it sounds, it is required for a country to thrive. Also, that's one of the reasons that made Sweden to become a first world country.
I live in México, and though education is a right, we don't have an organism like child protection to watch that every kid in our country goes to school. We actually do, but they don't really do their job. And we don't have enough schools for all the kids we have. Your country is, by far, way better than mine and all the countries in LatAm. You're blessed by being born there, and you're unhappy by a stupid reason. Your family doesn't need what you're bringing to them. You either leave your country now and do whatever you want in a country that allows you to, or for god's sake send them to school.
Now that you say you left your country I just really hope your childs are raised well, and that they don't have to run and hide like criminals just because they had weird and crazy parents. And I really laugh at how you're worried about "not being paid holidays", just what I've said on my whole post. You like and want to enjoy the rights of being Swedish, but you don't want the responsibilities that come from them.
Lol at the level of indoctrination here.
Really makes me wonder if you are a shill. Hmmm...
Ah, the joys of the imposed government "contracts" that we're bound to by birth without ever seeing or signing. Sure, you can steal my children if I don't let you brainwash them! Go ahead and take half of my money if I manage to start a successful business of some sort. You want fries with that?
Get real, pal. Government has gotten worse around the world. It's time to move beyond them, however we can.
I laugh at your silly argument and thinly-veiled insults. My insults aren't veiled at all; you suck.
Thank you @oddnugget I really didn't feel like unleashing on this fool, and I see now that I don't have to :)
:) Un placer.
@mavva you are in titled to your opinion.
I have so much I want to say to you but I do not want to argue with anyone here, so I will hold back and ask you to kindly read someone else's post that you enjoy and agree with instead.
Peace and love to the world
Glad to read that you have left. However I imagine that you are seeking to immigrate, I would like to read about that process. We can home school here and that is exactly what I intend to do. @mavva is a troll, you are right to ignore useful idiots like that.
Amen, @markwhittam @aboutyourbiz and @ladyrebeca. Hope mavva finds some other posts they can enjoy without spewing the vomitous ignorance around a topic they clearly know nothing about. Let them bask in the glory of their enslavement and intolerance for freedom.
And if I may quote Larken Rose on this one: “Some of us realize the self-evident truth that no election, no constitution, no legislation, and no other pseudo-religious political ritual can bestow upon anyone the right to rule another. Nothing can make a man into a rightful master; nothing can make a man into a rightful slave.”
Thank you @cm1 it's good to see nobody agrees with this person.
I do wonder if he or she got lost and thought they were on Twitter or something.
Excellent! Well said.
We homeschool our children, too. I'm very happy to hear that you accomplished your short-term goal of leaving Sweden.
I understand your point and I definitely agree on the controversy of leaving one's country on the one hand and trying to get some social money on the other. The line of in and out of a "system" is though a blurry line and doing it like you propose is not achievable, you can not travel around without papers for example. No bank account is also not easy.
For me, the essence of this article is about freedom and especially the choice of homeschooling or sending them to school. Schools might be a luxury for some, I agree but once schools are obligatory and you start to realise how schools change your child in a way you don't want, how the child looses interest in studying because of the school, how the child is actually wasting 80% of his/her time in these schools, then you might want something else. It is too late in that moment to decide this from birth-time of the child, you want the freedom and right to change, that should be accepted! With love
Thank you @bubke for your insight.
Regarding the benefits, I pay 53% income tax and then 25% tax on everything I buy, I pay about 40.000 Euro a year in taxes and I see it as my God given right to be able to claim a very small part of that money back that has been robbed from me over the last ten years.
It might seem a bit cheeky but I believe I am entitled to that money, but as it turns out I didn't get a chance to claim it so it look like they won.
Im not being funny, I just felt as though I needed to clear that up. :)
Exactly what do you mean by "weird and crazy parents"? People who want to educate their children the way they see right are "weird and crazy" ?
Since you're new here, I will grant you the benefit of doubt and just suggest you do some reading on homeschooling. There is a strong community of homeschoolers here.
Also, bear in mind that trolling is not much appreciated round here.
With a long and explained reply, how dare you to say I'm "trolling"?
I used those 2 words because that's what they look to me, and pretty much explained on the vaccines sentence. They think and act like conspiracists. They prefer to escape their country like criminals rather than sending their kids to the hell called school. Because everyone knows that school will automatically turn their kids into robots ready to follow commands with no ability to question. Oh, wait, that's exactly what school wants to avoid. You can now call me "troll" for using sarcasm.
In my opinion, they're doing more psychological harm to their kids with their current actions than what the "horrible" government wants. Once again, they had a lot of time to prepare themselves before being troubled in this situation, they already knew homeschooling is illegal as they claimed in one of their posts. And what do you expect to happen when you do something illegal?
There was no need for the "run and hide" and witch hunt they're making the kids experience. I don't know if it's applicable in Sweden but the government now could even freeze their passports under the premise of child abuse, and make things worse for their family.
Rather judgmental of you. And rights don't come from the state. The states job MAY be to protect your rights, but it does not GIVE you rights.