LOL. You literally have to ignore thousands of observations to not see a spinning ball in reality. I've showed a dozen or so on my blog already and whenever I bring THOSE observations up, flat earthers ignore them and change the subject.
You are obviously not interested in reality. Good luck getting anyone except the marginally intelligent gullible cult minded to believe you. But the world will remain a spinning ball regardless of your belief system.
But hey, perhaps YOU will be the first flat earther to show your comprehensive model that explains and predicts all natural phenomenon we see in reality, including"
Moon phases
Meteor showers
Comet sightings
Venus and Mercury sightings and transits
Daylight hours
Eclipses
Etc.
Without such a thing, you have an untestable hypothesis. So, please, let see this comprehensive predictive model. There is a very good reason you are unable to produce such a thing. It's because it's impossible to do so. You can't even produce a map.
(cut the evasion, avoidance, and cries of NASA LIES!!!!)
All that can be explained on both flat and ball earth models. I dont know what the truth is about reality, none of us do. But I do know the spinning ball is ludacris and yes NASA lies and so does government, corporations etc. People lie and thats why im not not going to buy into spinning balls with only hear-say as evidence. Big claims require big evidence. Sorry to break it you, telling you as it is. I know it hurts to acknowledge that everything you've been taught about reality is a lie.
You CLAIM they both work on a flat earth, but cannot show it. And I'm an anarchist. I want government abolished. I KNOW they lie. But I can see with thousands of my own observations the earth is a spinning ball.
There IS big evidence. Thousands of years of it, most of which are simple observations anyone can do. Literally, the ONLY reason you believe it's flat is because you say government lies.
I know they lie. And anyone can figure out it's a spinning ball. They can't hide the sky from you. Go out and go take a look at it sometime. It's BEAUTIFUL and, if it were a conspiracy to hide the shape of the earth, they'd have to hide telescopes, the night sky, and travel to the southern hemisphere from you too.
Get outside. Learn about the globe you live on. It's awesome.
I dont have time to write it all out for you but if your going to talk about major topics like flat eartfh you need to tkae the time and research it. I have researched both flat earth and ball modals. If you havnt figured out that moon phases, daylight hours etc cant happen on a flat earth reality you havnt done any research. Check out youtube channels such as globebusters, jeranism, eric dubay, odd reality for some preliminary research to get an idea of how a flat earth may work. Dont believe them, nor should you just believe anyone. Hear some people and try to verify it with your own observations. Just believing in the words of men will surely lead you down the garden path
"I don't have time to explain my fantasy to you!" is the typical cry of flat earthers who have no evidence to support their silly claims. I've done more research on your model than the vast majority of flat earthers. Which is why I know it's impossible and you don't seem to!
What you've done is simply make more claims you can't back up. I've asked for the flat earth model that accounts for all of these things and all I get, ever, is crickets or a nonsensical model that has so many impossibilities, the only way an adult could actually believe such a model is reality is because of brainwashing and wishful thinking.
You can get back to me when you ... you know.. actually HAVE a model that DOES explain those all in one place accurately. Until then, it sounds more like you are a child telling me why Santa REALLY does exist or playing a game of Dungeons and Dragons than an adult discussing a scientific topic.
Ive researched both sides of the argument. The spinning ball requires you to believe in magic with no proof whatsoever. Gravity is magic, there is no experiments that show that matter is attracted to each other by virtue of mass alone, so the theory of gravity is magic. Yes we know there is a downward force, but we just dont know what it is, could be an electromagnetic force. No one has independently detected curvature, I have seen islands myself that should not have been seen because of curvature. If there is no curvature there is no ball. Not only is there less curvature than can be detected, there is absolutely zero curvature detected. Thousands of people have seen chicago across lake michigan from 50+ miles away, thats over 2000 ft of supposed drop due to supposed curvature. This is just one of thousands of flat earth experiments that prove we are not on a spinning ball. Even mainstream science proves there is no ball, check out Airy' failaure, the sagnac experiment, the bedford level experiment and gyro experiments. All this proofs we are not on a spinning ball. The only evidence of spinning balls comes from Nasa which independent people will never be able to verify. Wake up people, snap out of the brainwashing, these people who run the world dont care about you, not at all, absolutely zero. They lie to us to gain power over us, so we give them all our money, work all our lives, and keep us metaphysically and mentally imprisoned. And yes I dont have a modal with all the answers, but i know im not on a spinning ball, I am working to find the truth. I dont depend on government or fake space agencies to spoon feed me truth. Sorry but you clearly haven't done any flat earth research, except for believing in the words of men. I need better proof than that. Sorry, I know it hurts to realize that everything you have been taught about the reality we live in is a lie. It hurts
"The only evidence of spinning balls comes from Nasa "
Except for the thousands of observations anyone can do that have been done for over 2000 years now. You don't get outside very much. That you think we've only known the earth is a sphere since the Kennedy administration is hilarious... sad that you didn't even bother to try to explain the eclipse the other night... but hilarious too that you honestly believe we've only known the earth is a sphere since NASA was begun. Wow.
YES YES again you just blindly believe the words of men. You truly are a loyal believer in The church of scientism.
I suppose you were around 2000 years ago to witness all those observations.
My research shows that no cultures even considered the ball until 500 years ago when the masons, a secret society, started pushing it. Pythagoras, the earliest known mason, tried pushing it 2000 years ago but people never bought it. Your gullable for believing the words from secret societies that do not have your best interests at heart.
Before NASA came along, the flat earth debate was alive and strong. But NASA fooled the people with their shanagans and most people fell prey to the propaganda. But in 2015 people started waking up again and now millions and millions of people are waking up to the flat earth truth. Everyday thousands of more people are starting to question authority and think for themselves. Unfortunately there will always be suckers out there who will believe anything they hear from authority. So sad.