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RE: Should we allow drugs and prostitution?

in #freedom7 years ago (edited)

You give up some of your individual freedom? I don't get that sentence.

You can predict the future but you can not use violence to forbit me something.
That is not "your individual freedom"
And hiring someone to do the violence for you makes it very easy, and there are always sociopaths and sadist who want to do that for you. But if you hire someone you are responsible for the things he does in your name. For example you can not hire a hitman that represents you and your wishes/wants/opinions and who violates or kills me if i don't obey them eventually
I think you know that if he kills me because I don't obey your wishes etc. that you are to blame. That's what happens exactly in statism.

Let me try it this way; What do you personally want to have done to me personally if I use hard drugs. (not stealing violating and agressing
or murdering at all)

Also
In statism you have no individual freedom that's a misconception. In statism/collectevism you don't give up your individual freedom either, it's taken by (thread of) violence.

You are indoctrinated (you may not believe it lol) in that individual freedom is that you have the freedom choose/vote for someone else to do things which would be seen as immoral as you would do them yourself, but magically become moral as many individuals think their opinion justifies them to give a violence institution permission ( which they can't) to do exactly those things that all the individuals in the group have no right to do.

This may sound stange but the gang is already there. You just don't see it because you are always 100% obedient to all the rules. The whip comes out if you don't obey, and your fellow slaves will enjoy the beating of you and will say you should have not broken the rules and defend yourself against your punishers, It's your own fault. Some (a lot actually)even justify you being murdered. (It's horrific to see people who say they care for you give answers)

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I understand your points; liberty is one of the basic human needs, just like air, water, food, health and safety. Statism is a flawed system without a doubt, whether it's comes as autocracy, democracy, communism, socialism or other form.

However, I also believe that the total anarchy is a flawed system too - because of the two huge problems explained in my previous comment for which I don't see a solution. Thus, it seems to me that we are choosing between two (or more) flawed systems, and it's up to each of us to thing about what is the least flawed system and to advocate that system.

Thank you for your answers .

The only thing is anarchy is not a political system. You can have voluntary organisation against your problems, which I see as a problem too. Not in the sence of volunteer.
I could give you some of my solutions for those problem but that would totally miss the point of what I'm trying to accomplish.
I hope that you maybe think about what you would do about those problems how to solve them and maybe see that it maybe possible in the future too realize those plans. But when noone ever thinks about and says those thing the other people will never think about. Just as that the idea that slavery is evil started in someones mind and he or she expressed it so that more people thought about that.

I thank you for your patience to discuss this difficult subject. And wish you the best.

Peace/Vrede ;)

I am thinking about the eventual solutions as we speak.

Thank you for the great discussion, @wordsword.

Cheers! : )