Both groups wish to impose their morality on people. When a boot is stepping on your face you don't really care if it's the left one or a right one. You aren't a statist because you acknowledge the state as a thing I'm very aware it's a thing you're a statist because you worship it you want it to push your progressive morality on others through force. If you support antifa you are no better than the Nazis groups and not seeing that is absolutely ridiculous. You're a capitalist a socialist man you don't know what the hell you got going on. Google voluntaryism
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I know what voluntarism is. (I can even spell it correctly.) I went through an Ayn Rand/Ron Paul phase in my 20's, but then I read some books on economics and history, and determined that libertarianism/voluntarism is not competitive in a modern global economy. If you try to force such a system on a modern industrialized civilization, millions of people will suffer. That's what happens when you burn someone's house down and destroy what they have worked hard to build. You ruin their life.
I don't worship the state. As a politically active citizen, I am a part of the state. Those metaphoric boots you complain about are on my feet. They are not trying to step on you, but if you insist on getting under my feet while I am trying to get some work done, you might get kicked or stepped on. We are trying to build a future for our children, and you guys are trying to force us to tear it down and start over. We are even willing to give you some boots, because we believe people can not pull themselves up by their boot straps without first owning a fucking pair of boots! I am even volunteering my time to teach you how to lace them up and tie them.
So here I am, trying to explain how shoes work to a barefoot hillbilly that wants to burn my house down. That's how I see it.
OK, I exhausted the metaphor.
It is easier to destroy than it is to build. Simple people want a simple solution. Destroying everything civilization has worked for and starting over from the ashes is not a good idea, and those of you trying to force that idea on the rest of us are guilty of exactly what you accuse us of. The fact that right-wingers have taken up ranks with Nazis and Confederates is a pretty strong indicator of what is going on here.
The logical thing to do is stop trying to destroy society, and help us build on and improve what we have. We are not demanding you do that. It is quite voluntary. If you don't want to be part of modern society, you are free to go be Amish or whatever. Just stop trying to drag the rest of us back to the stone-age with you. We got shit to do.
You only think they are on your feet they've fed you that illusion when in reality in the eyes of the state you're no body. Just another vote and more tax dollars. Also you generalizing right wingers with Nazis and Confederates is the same as me saying all left wingers are commies which are no better than Nazis actually if you wanna go by body count commies killed way way more. Nazis are also socialist and Confederates were Democrats. Why don't you learn fucking history. Ancaps aren't trying to destroy anything only show people how incompetent government is and how unnecessary it is. We are showing you the door to freedom it's not our fault you turds on the left and the right can't get past your divide and conquer programming. That's why the left is out ripping down statues embarrassed of their own history .
I honestly don't know any communists. I haven't seen any communist flags at any left-wing rallies. I haven't seen any posters of Stalin or Mao at any meet-ups I have attended.
Who you are willing to associate with says a lot about who you are. When an ethical person discovers they are associating with unethical people, they must choose to break ties or compromise their integrity. That's why the more scrupulous members of the Republican party are distancing themselves from Trump. When he stated that there were some "very fine people" marching with Nazis in Charlottesville, politicians and CEOs started jumping ship and running for the exits.
I was big into the ancap scene, and I still have a lot of ancap friends. I have cut some of the nastier ones out of my life. I uninstalled TOR, and I don't go on the dark web any more. I would rather not associate myself with the drug dealers, gun dealers, and child pornographers that use the tech. I buy my marijuana from a legal dispensary now, because people in my state organized and voted it into law.
The confederate statues were put up during the civil rights struggle and Jim Crow years. They have nothing to do with heritage, and everything to do with the ongoing culture war between racists and minorities.
Let me put this in language a Trumpist can understand.
The Confederates lost. They are losers. They don't get a participation trophy. If you feel triggered, and need a safe space, you need to man up and stop playing the victim card. I don't like statues of people who lose wars, ok? I want a statue of a winner. Why don't we have a statue of Grant? We're gonna build a giant statue of Grant, and we're gonna make the south pay for it!
I'm blown away I got told to eat acid and open my third eye from such a closed minded smug retard who's still convinced I'm a trump supporter. Why do political parties only accept facts when it benefits their side. I think you need some more acid my friend because it's supposed to dissolve your ego not turn you into a pompous ass.
If you are not a Trumpist, and I am not a communist, what are we arguing about?
I have done enough psychedelics. My last trip was in 2011. I was really into Hunter S. Thompson, and decided I wanted a gonzo Vegas trip. I took 3 hits of acid on my way to the airport. A couple hours later, while I was frying balls, the plane began experiencing engine trouble. It was utterly terrifying.
While psychedelics have helped me gain a better intuitive understanding of my connection with the universe, they have not dissolved my ego. I like who I am. I wish to continue existing, and I wish continuity for my children and grandchildren. All parents are a bit narcissistic. We love ourselves, and we love it when we see our children carry our legacy and spirit onward into the future.
I'm pretty blown away that a Libertarian is attacking me for having an ego of all things. What ever happened to advocating for the rights of autonomy and identity? Does the right to individualized self-determination not apply to those you deem statist retards?
You are free to do as you please. I called you a retard because I'm getting the same thing from you I get from the right wingers they think I'm a Hillary supporter. I'm blown away you can't have a individual opinion without being accused of being for the other side. I'm not on any politicians side I'm on the people's side. I want your kids and grandkids to have freedom. If you have young children they are going to grow up without any concept of what privacy is that's sad to me. I can't hate antifa without being a Nazi? America is stupid anymore we've been treated like children for so long everyone is acting like a child.
You are free to hate people, call them retards, and make all kinds of wild generalizations and ignorant assumptions about people you have never met. I am free to point out the inaccuracies and contradictions in your narrative. That's what folks like us do in places like this.
My kids will have freedom and privacy if America is stable and prosperous. If America falls into despotism and ruin, my children face unspeakable horror. Check the demographics. Educated people with families vote Democrat because we care about leaving a strong economy and a habitable environment for our children.