@dynamicrypto and @jan23com, I was only just warned about this unfortunate issue.
I’m sorry it has gotten this far out of hand.
I have read the conversation, that started with @jan23com’s comment. I agree with @beeyou that the comment was an opinion. Maybe @jan23com could have used different wording to ‘soften’ his message a little, but I honestly don’t see no reason to flag him for his opinion.
@dynamicrypto, the day before yesterday I made a big mistake, making a post about the line in the FAQ that says asking for an upvote for a contest is considered to be abuse.
After constructive comments from @valth and @yabapmatt I made changes to the post, to let people know thqt the FAQ are not the ‘official rules’.
But the seed had been planted.
I’m sorry, @jan23com for confusing you. I am a little confused myself.
But I’m losing focus..
I started this comment to ask you, @dynamicrypto, to take away the flag. Flags shouldn’t be used to show disagreement. If you want the comment to go down in the list, why not upvote the other comments instead?
@terminallyill, everything has been blown out of proportion. I can understand why @jan23com is hesitant about other sites. I just spent 2 hours in the steemcleaners channel discussing the phishing problem that is getting out of hand. I just reported a phishing link to autosteem. People get suspicious... I read the post three times and was confused about autosteem or steemauto myself...
And I started the ‘upvote is abuse’ thing. I didn’t mean for it to become a big deal.
This is just an unfortunate chain of events that lead to a lot of bad feelings...
They are asking you to read other posts and if you like one to upvote. With being under 45 most of us don't really have a following and are not making very much money, if any. The best thing you can do is support the little guys with good content, not to throw your voting power away to one of the whales, because they will make hundreds and thousands with or without you. You upvote to a redfish especially means the world to them, that someone out there cares about what they are posting. This contest and group designed to contribute to the part of the community that needs the most help, gets overlooked and to keep from losing them. If these people don't get votes don't see that people appreciate a quality articles, then why waste their time? They may as well go back to Facebook at least someone talks to them them there.
This is what you get if you upvote the post for one.
Every greeter or referring person will be rewarded 0.05 SBD for each person who join ONE trail. If you have someone join both trails, that is a total of 0.10 SBD rewarded to you.
Secondly, the upvote gets the thread moved up on trending so it can be seen and also as a way to give back to you. You're kind of missing the point. If you're wanting to do that, go through my follower list and see how many want me to follow and upvote, especially when they haven't even posted.
Having to sign up with yet another site, you lost me especially with all phishing going on to gain access to accounts.
I do not want my keys plastered all over different sites.
I have NEVER been asked for my key to any of the Discord groups I am in. 2 of which are Greeters Guild and Newbie Resteem Day. If you're giving out your key and can't tell what a phishing post is, I don't know what to tell you.
What theses guy are doing is trying to build up good quality posters, not allow the platform to cater to meme posters, copyright infringers and most of all plagiarists. Do the right thing and build up the little guys. You'll receive far greater rewards from being consistent with upvoting and commenting on them, than you will by trying to kiss butt to a whale.
And do remember no one has to agree with you and they have the right to flag you. Since you straight out refuse do do what the post is they're flagging is making sure you do not get any reward for you post on here. Which is legitimate.
Now, if you flag other people as a result of this. That is a totally different conversation.
Look at the bigger picture. If you don't understand ask them.
These guys are great. They're supportive and believe in what they are doing.
HOW TO ENTER AND PARTICIPATE IN THE SECOND EVENT
STEP ONE - VISIT THE #INTRODUCEYOURSELF AND #INTRODUCEMYSELF AREAS OF THE STEEMIT PLATFORM
STEP TWO - LOCATE NEW STEEMIT USERS WITH QUALITY CONTENT WHO ARE IN NEED OF SUPPORT AND A WARM WELCOME
STEP THREE - SINCERELY AND COMPASSIONATELY WELCOME THESE NEW USERS TO THE COMMUNITY, OFFERING ADVICE, HELP AND SUPPORT.
STEP FOUR - INTRODUCE THESE NEW STEEMIT USERS TO VISIT US @GREETERSGUILD AND TO JOIN IN ON THIS CONTEST EVENT BY ENTERING THEIR WORK IN THE COMMENTS PORTION OF THIS POST.
STEP FIVE - ENCOURAGE THESE NEW USERS TO DO THEIR ABSOLUTE BEST. HAVE THEM TAG YOU IN THEIR ENTRY COMMENT ON THIS CONTEST POST.
This is the main body of the promotion. As mentioned to get the thread on the trending page it has to be upvoted. No one is making you, if you want to participate in the 1st part and be rewarded with .050 to .100 SBD then upvote if not, don't. You're making an issue out of something that quite honestly is blatantly violated even by whales. So don't get stuck on rule that may be broken by a group that is doing good, go after the ones that ruin the platform.
It got out of hand, that is all to be said about it. My apologies for coming off as brash to anyone involved. The fact is @jan23com, I care about the wellbeing and growth of my group and those coming up in the platform so heavily that it drove this to be something it did not need to be. @dynamiccrypto thank you for supporting us and for removing the flag so we can find a peaceful resolution for everyone involved. I have a deep admiration for the passion of you both, that is a fact.
@jan23com there was no abuse or anything intended with this post, it was merely a means to give back to the community and help others on their journey. I do understand your concerns and ask please, if there ever may be an issue in the future, to reach out to me or someone else personally beforehand so we can avoid situations such as this. We are good, I have no issues with you. You are entitled to your opinions and we both can agree to disagree. In the long run, it's not about us, it is about those people out here who need outlets such as these to grow from.
I apologize for coming off rough and I apologize for anyone who is a direct representation of any group I am involved with. We hold no animosity, trust me. This platform is big enough for us all, and we are able to share it without bumping heads. I hope that you have a pleasant weekend!
Thank you @davemccoy :) I'm a work in progress, I know. I am learning though. I am just happy to kill the situation and move forward with the main goal at hand, helping these new Steemians grow and steem on ;)
Sorry if it got out of hand. I didn't mean for it too. I'll just got off and find another end of the pool to swim in. If you would please be so kind as to remove my post too, so it doesn't offend anyone. I'll just leave you guys be.
@tryskele, I am not upset with you bro, there's no need to say any of that. In fact, I am happy that you did everything you did to explain the true meaning of the post and such. What blew the argument up was my personal responses to Jan, which I had to step back and reflect on. Me being in a leadership position, I have to be political regarding these things and cannot really keep the situation going in a negative manner. You were not wrong for anything, I'm just killing the argument and letting it die down so we can all focus on the important thing, which is the contest. It ended up drawing too much attention from the newbies who need the exposure by entering this event, which something I had to sit down and consider.
This got out of hand and was drawing a great deal of attention in the wrong ways, the things that caused the most ruckus were my responses, which I had to edit to keep things on a good note. So, trust me, there is no need to move along away from us or anything of the sort. I actually want you to be part of all of this and continue to support SGG ;) You displayed a great amount of loyalty AND appreciation for the initiatives I am in charge of, so please, stay here with us and help us continue to grow in great ways!
That ultimately was my goal. I didn't want to draw negative attention though. This is where I wish there were a way to switch to a private conversation besides discord. I am trying to work my way in to greeting. Sounds bad I'm beaten to it LOL Someone else from the group gets there before me. Which is awesome. I believe strongly in both groups. Especially this contest. (Im one of the ones deciding if this is where I should be) I love this platform. I love the conversations. If I could help others not go through the struggles I have then even better. Thanks @terminallyill p.s. Sis not bro :D I know the name is deceiving.
@tryskele I honestly would love you to become a permanent part of @greeterguild :) Please join in and I will do my best to coach you in any way possible. Make sure you get in touch with me sis ;)
Hi @jan23com I see where your concerns lie. Since I run the cryptkeeper17 curie trail I am happy to address them, as long as do a lot of work on @greetersguild alongside my teammates in this project. First, the single upvote is meant for someone to have an ounce of skin in the project if they want to enter. Their upvote is going to make no one rich, in fact they very likely have voted like 20-50 times already, because that is pretty much what every newbie does eventually. Also I am getting them minnowbooster votes after reading their post, commenting on it, and verifying it isn't spam garbage. Everyone that has joined our curation trail has spent a lot of time with me and other friends like the newbieresteem team, the newbiegames team, and just about anyone else on here that we can use as an asset to gather them information they wish to know. We offer as much education of all things on here to the fullest of our abilities. The curation trail is offered so that they can get ongoing support in upvotes, and is frankly a way I and the others in the group can track their ongoing progress. I work with a lot of people on here, on a lot of different things, and admit I can get sidetracked, so that works well on all fronts. Plus with the current price of steem, the newbie that enters the curation trail also gets some very solid curation rewards, or is incentivized to keep their voting power up, or to build their steempower through purchasing steem or leasing via delegation. That and we haven't even mentioned the chance for them to participate in the steembasicincome program, that will get them yet a little higher floor voting start on each of their posts daily thanks to the multitude of mind blowing support this has already received. This is not an organization, but much more a group of people that are doing the same thing we have done on here since we started under one common banner. I thank you for your comment and would be curious if I missed any of your concerns with the project and/or contest.
Wow that is a lot involvement! That's sweet. Yeah I know that can happen, no biggie, it's hard to convey tone of voice and get the real meaning of what it is you're trying to say. I know I certainly have had it happen. Mine on discord is cryptkeeper17#6637, you can direct message me anytime as well. Thanks for the response, and let me know what else may come to mind, your input is great appreciated @jan23com!
Hi @jan23com. I'm not @davemccoy or @simplymike, but I will throw in my comment on this matter. I am sure they will stop by later when they have a chance.
Edited because I simply want to let everyone know that your comments are valued on here. Meet people, join contests and have fun. Or else steemit is going to be super boring!
Beeyou, I have much respect for you. I appreciate you taking the time to come here and try calm me in some manner, I assure you I am calm, With the expressions I have been getting from others of the group, I know I will not be welcomed there and unsurprised if that does not filter to other common rooms.
Ask everyone, I've been too lazy to write or comment much lately. ;)
As for the other group, many of the same members are also in our Newbie Resteem community. You don't have to be part of both communities. To be honest, I only have time for one community and that is #newbieresteemday. Although not a member of SGG, I still support what they do for newbies.
No requirement to join other communities on here. Find ones with like-minded individuals and stick with them BUT do be open that there are other communities out there that want to help others too. They may do so in a different fashion is all.
I too have talked to cryptkeep17 on discord. I also think he is a good guy. Really, I think it snowballed into a bigger issue than your comment initially intended. I think it's just how a comment is read and perceived imo.
@jan23.com@dynamicrypto@terminallyill... I am now just getting up to speed on all this drama... I don't like to hear that we had this confrontation. I have seen that several people get involved and weigh in and I will say this, I support everyone speaking their mind even if I don't agree with them. So I hope that we can have a civil disagreements and save our venom for the true bad guys on this system.
From what I can tell it looks like everyone has edited things. So I am assuming that all is ok. If not, then let me know and I will get involved. I will put everything I am trying to do on hold and deal with this.
Please let me know. I don't want anyone focused on the wrong things, so I will definitely help resolve, if necessary.
I may be the only one who did some editing, And the credit for that can go to Bee Crypt and Simply.
It is not removed to be hidden, bit a record kept should it be needed.
I thank you for your efforts to try to tone down anything that others found offensive. I do know know everything so I will withhold any judgements. I am just now going through the messages, but I of course support your right to have an opinion. Even if I don't agree with it (which I don't know since I haven't gotten that far).
If there was any damage done to your reputation, then I will work to fix it myself.
Please refrain from making more statements if you can so that we can let this situation pass. Again, thank you for attempting to take down the tension by amending your comments.
Good luck to all who join!
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Good luck
@dynamicrypto and @jan23com, I was only just warned about this unfortunate issue.
I’m sorry it has gotten this far out of hand.
I have read the conversation, that started with @jan23com’s comment. I agree with @beeyou that the comment was an opinion. Maybe @jan23com could have used different wording to ‘soften’ his message a little, but I honestly don’t see no reason to flag him for his opinion.
@dynamicrypto, the day before yesterday I made a big mistake, making a post about the line in the FAQ that says asking for an upvote for a contest is considered to be abuse.
After constructive comments from @valth and @yabapmatt I made changes to the post, to let people know thqt the FAQ are not the ‘official rules’.
But the seed had been planted.
I’m sorry, @jan23com for confusing you. I am a little confused myself.
But I’m losing focus..
I started this comment to ask you, @dynamicrypto, to take away the flag. Flags shouldn’t be used to show disagreement. If you want the comment to go down in the list, why not upvote the other comments instead?
@terminallyill, everything has been blown out of proportion. I can understand why @jan23com is hesitant about other sites. I just spent 2 hours in the steemcleaners channel discussing the phishing problem that is getting out of hand. I just reported a phishing link to autosteem. People get suspicious... I read the post three times and was confused about autosteem or steemauto myself...
And I started the ‘upvote is abuse’ thing. I didn’t mean for it to become a big deal.
This is just an unfortunate chain of events that lead to a lot of bad feelings...
Great cause
Thanks for removing the flag, @dynamiccrypto.
But I’m not sure I understand what you mean when you say ‘maybe next time use their tag or else’...
thank you for being you @simplymike! :)
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hey @dynamicrypto I also appreciate you removing your flag! Thank you very much! :)
everything is cool @simplymike! Thank you very much for being so you! It is very helpful and much appreciated! :D
@simplymike you talk like an old man.... too much wisdom... thank you
Thanks, @sparrowbernard, make that an old lady ;0)
Lol... the MIKE in your name always make me to mistake your gender...
Good luck everyone!
all is well! Thanks ;)
Happy to hear :)
thank you so much for beeing there ;)
They are asking you to read other posts and if you like one to upvote. With being under 45 most of us don't really have a following and are not making very much money, if any. The best thing you can do is support the little guys with good content, not to throw your voting power away to one of the whales, because they will make hundreds and thousands with or without you. You upvote to a redfish especially means the world to them, that someone out there cares about what they are posting. This contest and group designed to contribute to the part of the community that needs the most help, gets overlooked and to keep from losing them. If these people don't get votes don't see that people appreciate a quality articles, then why waste their time? They may as well go back to Facebook at least someone talks to them them there.
This is what you get if you upvote the post for one.
Secondly, the upvote gets the thread moved up on trending so it can be seen and also as a way to give back to you. You're kind of missing the point. If you're wanting to do that, go through my follower list and see how many want me to follow and upvote, especially when they haven't even posted.
I have NEVER been asked for my key to any of the Discord groups I am in. 2 of which are Greeters Guild and Newbie Resteem Day. If you're giving out your key and can't tell what a phishing post is, I don't know what to tell you.
What theses guy are doing is trying to build up good quality posters, not allow the platform to cater to meme posters, copyright infringers and most of all plagiarists. Do the right thing and build up the little guys. You'll receive far greater rewards from being consistent with upvoting and commenting on them, than you will by trying to kiss butt to a whale.
And do remember no one has to agree with you and they have the right to flag you. Since you straight out refuse do do what the post is they're flagging is making sure you do not get any reward for you post on here. Which is legitimate.
Now, if you flag other people as a result of this. That is a totally different conversation.
Look at the bigger picture. If you don't understand ask them.
These guys are great. They're supportive and believe in what they are doing.
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For that part of the contest. The main body of the contest it does not.
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In that part of the contest....there are 2 parts.
This is the main body of the promotion. As mentioned to get the thread on the trending page it has to be upvoted. No one is making you, if you want to participate in the 1st part and be rewarded with .050 to .100 SBD then upvote if not, don't. You're making an issue out of something that quite honestly is blatantly violated even by whales. So don't get stuck on rule that may be broken by a group that is doing good, go after the ones that ruin the platform.
And THIS clearly does not.
Steem on everyone :)
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It got out of hand, that is all to be said about it. My apologies for coming off as brash to anyone involved. The fact is @jan23com, I care about the wellbeing and growth of my group and those coming up in the platform so heavily that it drove this to be something it did not need to be. @dynamiccrypto thank you for supporting us and for removing the flag so we can find a peaceful resolution for everyone involved. I have a deep admiration for the passion of you both, that is a fact.
@jan23com there was no abuse or anything intended with this post, it was merely a means to give back to the community and help others on their journey. I do understand your concerns and ask please, if there ever may be an issue in the future, to reach out to me or someone else personally beforehand so we can avoid situations such as this. We are good, I have no issues with you. You are entitled to your opinions and we both can agree to disagree. In the long run, it's not about us, it is about those people out here who need outlets such as these to grow from.
I apologize for coming off rough and I apologize for anyone who is a direct representation of any group I am involved with. We hold no animosity, trust me. This platform is big enough for us all, and we are able to share it without bumping heads. I hope that you have a pleasant weekend!
Great reply @terminallyill... I am happy to see the matter is resolved! :)
Thank you @davemccoy :) I'm a work in progress, I know. I am learning though. I am just happy to kill the situation and move forward with the main goal at hand, helping these new Steemians grow and steem on ;)
Awesome Lucky! That's great to see my friend! :)
Sorry if it got out of hand. I didn't mean for it too. I'll just got off and find another end of the pool to swim in. If you would please be so kind as to remove my post too, so it doesn't offend anyone. I'll just leave you guys be.
@tryskele, I am not upset with you bro, there's no need to say any of that. In fact, I am happy that you did everything you did to explain the true meaning of the post and such. What blew the argument up was my personal responses to Jan, which I had to step back and reflect on. Me being in a leadership position, I have to be political regarding these things and cannot really keep the situation going in a negative manner. You were not wrong for anything, I'm just killing the argument and letting it die down so we can all focus on the important thing, which is the contest. It ended up drawing too much attention from the newbies who need the exposure by entering this event, which something I had to sit down and consider.
This got out of hand and was drawing a great deal of attention in the wrong ways, the things that caused the most ruckus were my responses, which I had to edit to keep things on a good note. So, trust me, there is no need to move along away from us or anything of the sort. I actually want you to be part of all of this and continue to support SGG ;) You displayed a great amount of loyalty AND appreciation for the initiatives I am in charge of, so please, stay here with us and help us continue to grow in great ways!
That ultimately was my goal. I didn't want to draw negative attention though. This is where I wish there were a way to switch to a private conversation besides discord. I am trying to work my way in to greeting. Sounds bad I'm beaten to it LOL Someone else from the group gets there before me. Which is awesome. I believe strongly in both groups. Especially this contest. (Im one of the ones deciding if this is where I should be) I love this platform. I love the conversations. If I could help others not go through the struggles I have then even better. Thanks @terminallyill p.s. Sis not bro :D I know the name is deceiving.
@tryskele I honestly would love you to become a permanent part of @greeterguild :) Please join in and I will do my best to coach you in any way possible. Make sure you get in touch with me sis ;)
Always learning from you. @jan23com
Just a point of view. We all learn from each other :)
Hi @jan23com I see where your concerns lie. Since I run the cryptkeeper17 curie trail I am happy to address them, as long as do a lot of work on @greetersguild alongside my teammates in this project. First, the single upvote is meant for someone to have an ounce of skin in the project if they want to enter. Their upvote is going to make no one rich, in fact they very likely have voted like 20-50 times already, because that is pretty much what every newbie does eventually. Also I am getting them minnowbooster votes after reading their post, commenting on it, and verifying it isn't spam garbage. Everyone that has joined our curation trail has spent a lot of time with me and other friends like the newbieresteem team, the newbiegames team, and just about anyone else on here that we can use as an asset to gather them information they wish to know. We offer as much education of all things on here to the fullest of our abilities. The curation trail is offered so that they can get ongoing support in upvotes, and is frankly a way I and the others in the group can track their ongoing progress. I work with a lot of people on here, on a lot of different things, and admit I can get sidetracked, so that works well on all fronts. Plus with the current price of steem, the newbie that enters the curation trail also gets some very solid curation rewards, or is incentivized to keep their voting power up, or to build their steempower through purchasing steem or leasing via delegation. That and we haven't even mentioned the chance for them to participate in the steembasicincome program, that will get them yet a little higher floor voting start on each of their posts daily thanks to the multitude of mind blowing support this has already received. This is not an organization, but much more a group of people that are doing the same thing we have done on here since we started under one common banner. I thank you for your comment and would be curious if I missed any of your concerns with the project and/or contest.
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Wow that is a lot involvement! That's sweet. Yeah I know that can happen, no biggie, it's hard to convey tone of voice and get the real meaning of what it is you're trying to say. I know I certainly have had it happen. Mine on discord is cryptkeeper17#6637, you can direct message me anytime as well. Thanks for the response, and let me know what else may come to mind, your input is great appreciated @jan23com!
Hi @jan23com. I'm not @davemccoy or @simplymike, but I will throw in my comment on this matter. I am sure they will stop by later when they have a chance.
Edited because I simply want to let everyone know that your comments are valued on here. Meet people, join contests and have fun. Or else steemit is going to be super boring!
Beeyou, I have much respect for you. I appreciate you taking the time to come here and try calm me in some manner, I assure you I am calm, With the expressions I have been getting from others of the group, I know I will not be welcomed there and unsurprised if that does not filter to other common rooms.
Ask everyone, I've been too lazy to write or comment much lately. ;)
As for the other group, many of the same members are also in our Newbie Resteem community. You don't have to be part of both communities. To be honest, I only have time for one community and that is #newbieresteemday. Although not a member of SGG, I still support what they do for newbies.
No requirement to join other communities on here. Find ones with like-minded individuals and stick with them BUT do be open that there are other communities out there that want to help others too. They may do so in a different fashion is all.
You should talk to cryptkeep17 on discord about my opinion of the greeters guild. It has not changed since I said it. and it may surprise you.
I too have talked to cryptkeep17 on discord. I also think he is a good guy. Really, I think it snowballed into a bigger issue than your comment initially intended. I think it's just how a comment is read and perceived imo.
@jan23.com @dynamicrypto @terminallyill... I am now just getting up to speed on all this drama... I don't like to hear that we had this confrontation. I have seen that several people get involved and weigh in and I will say this, I support everyone speaking their mind even if I don't agree with them. So I hope that we can have a civil disagreements and save our venom for the true bad guys on this system.
From what I can tell it looks like everyone has edited things. So I am assuming that all is ok. If not, then let me know and I will get involved. I will put everything I am trying to do on hold and deal with this.
Please let me know. I don't want anyone focused on the wrong things, so I will definitely help resolve, if necessary.
cc.... @beeyou @cryptkeeper @simplymike
I may be the only one who did some editing, And the credit for that can go to Bee Crypt and Simply.
It is not removed to be hidden, bit a record kept should it be needed.
I thank you for your efforts to try to tone down anything that others found offensive. I do know know everything so I will withhold any judgements. I am just now going through the messages, but I of course support your right to have an opinion. Even if I don't agree with it (which I don't know since I haven't gotten that far).
If there was any damage done to your reputation, then I will work to fix it myself.
Please refrain from making more statements if you can so that we can let this situation pass. Again, thank you for attempting to take down the tension by amending your comments.