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RE: Electricity of the Future: What is it, and what is stopping it.

your claims about wind and photovoltaic are just wrong. please do some research.
windpower has energy payback times below one year for the whole system, and vestas just announced to build a huge blade recycling plant.
Photovoltaic is by far the cheapest off-grid energy solution and also already one of the cheapest electricity production technologies on-grid. And it will get cheaper every year until soon it will be the cheapest overall.

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Sadly subsidies distort the hell out of things versus real world costs. I would be highly suspect of the costs of these things. They may improve in price over time I agree but what is the subsidy that’s added versus what’s the production or material improvement? I would much rather remove the subsidies and let the free market, without the hindrance of the overburden of regulation, come up with better and more cost effective solutions for making the photovoltaic panels.

Wind power is not a useful utility grade power source. It's great for local power production. The real problem is that the utility companies don't want us to make our own power. Using vortex driven kites we can deploy wind power very inexpensively - but utility companies need massive horizontal shaft turbines with tip speeds so high, because the blades are so long, that they require extreme engineering and exotic materials, and that engineering cost and exotic materials are difficult to recycle.

A spinner on a string, however, that can run a house, requires nothing exotic and can be easily repaired and re-used. The overlords do NOT want us making our own inexpensive electricity and keeping our wealth ourselves. That's the real problem with wind and solar - it's not appropriate tech for utility scale power generation.

We can print solar panels today on recycled PET from water bottles that require no enslaved children grubbing coltan out of African mud, but utility companies can't use that tech to make solar panel farms - that themselves eliminate farms. We want solar panels on our roofs we print ourselves. Overlords are losing their wealth and power from appropriate use of wind and solar, and decentralized means of production in every field of industry, and their resistance to decentralization is the real problem we need to overcome.

We need to oppose overlords trying to subjugate us and make us dependent on centralized production of power, food, and every product we use, and we can do that not by marching in the street, but by learning how to deploy vortex kites, print solar panels on PET, and getting a 3D printer to make our own stuff instead of buying everything from corporations that feed overlords.

The OVERLORDS are the actual problem. CO2 is fertilizer, not sky destroying pollution. As you point out, education is the key to prosperity, and that is why we are fed lies instead of facts about climate, pollution, and decentralization, which disperses the wealth of civilization across the population, instead of centralization, which concentrates wealth in the walled gardens of oligarchs and overlords.

Choose freedom instead of dependence on overlords for your very life.

Without subsidies, photovoltaic takes about 20 years to break even.
And that is almost the life of many panels.

And this is what you are call "the cheapest"?

I hope that the huge blade recycling plant actually recycles these things, but i am not going to hold my breath. Too many bate and switches before.

no, not I am calling this, but the IEA.. International Energy Agency... https://www.iea.org/energy-system/renewables/solar-pv "Despite increases in investment costs due to rising commodity prices, utility-scale solar PV is the least costly option for new electricity generation in a significant majority of countries worldwide. Distributed solar PV, such as rooftop solar on buildings, is also set for faster growth because of higher retail electricity prices and growing policy support."

and here is the corresponding data:

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Unfortunately, the IEA doesn't even acknowledge any of the better technology.
And these number include the back end subsidies. Where we are just exporting pollution to 3rd world nations.

I do not agree with how they have broken down these numbers, and the BIG thing that is missing is what any of these categories mean.

Is that a giant windmill that will never pay for the diesel used to make it, or a little home windmill , that if it doesn't get destroyed in a wind storm, will pay for itself in a year... as long as you already have a system that can store the spikey electrical production?