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RE: Did you really believe them, when they told you the cause?

in Deep Dives3 years ago (edited)

I'm very skeptical of what you wrote.

Your prerogative.

edit: actually, I thought about it a bit better. What exactly are you skeptical of? It's not like I claimed either side was right. So what, then? That the large majority of the audience is being played and treated like drooling toddlers? That's not called skepticism, but ignorance. And as someone who's known your blog a long time, I don't believe you're ignorant.

I do indeed believe that 'this wouldn't have happened if Trump were still in charge.

Why?

And I'm sorry, I see what you're saying about some people always blaming Trump, and that's true, taking responsibility is hard - and why would you do it, if you can believably paint a scapegoat? It's true that ever since Trump left office, the media have been blaming him for anything and everything, long surpassing absurdity.
At the same time, that's not saying that Trump has no faults (in this, or in anything else). To claim that would be very narrow-minded. It's not like the things happening now, like the American military bases in Putin's side just sprung up magically the day Biden took over. And in any case, it wasn't my point to get into a "it's Biden's fault" vs "it's Trump's fault" debate. That was precisely what I was saying - such an argument is just wasting energy, while the real big boys are playing the field.

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Thank you.
What am I skeptical about? Everything.
I attempt to apply the scientific method to my daily life.
I'm sure you know what the scientific method is so I won't go over it here.
However. I'm particularly skeptical about the legacy news media. I'm a viet nam era vet. I've personally caught them in flagrant lies. I don't believe anything they say with out many, many corroborating accounts.
Not that the right wing news media is any better.
Having said that it's pretty obvious that we haven't the least clue about what is really going on. I have no idea what to do about it.

One thing. According to the NOT credible news media Putin invaded the Ukraine in 2014. What did Obama do about it? He sent the Ukraine blankets. It is to be noted that Putin did NOT follow up during the Trump administration, he waited until Obama's third term in office.

Yes. Biden is a puppet. (so was obama in my opinion) Soros pulls obama's strings and Obama pulls Biden's strings.

Of course that's just a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, probably not accurate.

But like I said, the news media tells lies, they always have. History is written from the accounts presented by the news media.

Is History a lie?

Yes, the game is definitely mismatched, but we don't know if it's so behind the scenes. As you said, someone (Soros, quite likely, at least in part) is pulling Biden's strings, so the deciding power in this game isn't with Biden. So the game may be more evened out behind the scenes.

Having said that it's pretty obvious that we haven't the least clue about what is really going on. I have no idea what to do about it.

I completely agree, we have no way of knowing what is happening. In a way, not fully trusting either side reporting the situation was exactly my point. I notice a tendency on both sides to start taking for granted what they're being told, which is dangerous, regardless if you're left or right. That is, I believe, the case of the friend I was discussing in my post. I think focusing too heavily on this Trump vs. Biden debate that so consumes the U.S. takes away from what is happening now. Seems much more important to focus on whoever's pulling Biden's strings now, than on possibilities that were never realized (like Trump continuing his presidency).

What did Obama do about it? He sent the Ukraine blankets. It is to be noted that Putin did NOT follow up during the Trump administration, he waited until Obama's third term in office.

I didn't know that :) I admit I was too young to follow international affairs back in 2014. Which is why I wouldn't try to give an opinion on a situation I know little about. I'm sure there's a connection between Biden being in office and what is happening now, just like I'm sure there was a connection between him taking office and what happened in Afghanistan. But I also believe that there's someone behind all of this, orchestrating all of these seemingly unrelated moves. And they're not reacting to Biden becoming president to do so-and-so things. Rather, I think that's what they planned would happen from the beginning.

Is History a lie?

History is a story, and all stories are fictional, to some extent.

too young to follow politics in 2014? !! But...but..that was just..

(now I feel old)

I found this to be VERY interesting.

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dunno. Everytime we send 'foreign aid' it goes into a dictator's pocket.
I'd say it's bad but the worst? That's a pretty high bar.

The way I see it, given the Democrats history, the fact that democrats exist is reason enough to fight them. Democrats are responsible for almost every thing bad in the history of the united states.