Hey everyone! I just wanted to post that as of today i have left all the discord groups except ecoTrain. I will also be removing that group very soon and will have no presence on the discord platform. There are a bunch or reasons why, but before i get into it i would like to share how to contact me if you would like to!
Telegram
ecoalex
(no hyphen as they aren't valid on telegram)
Hive:
You can comment or message me on the messaging system on peakd.
Email:
[email protected]
Ok so im not going to going into this too much as im sure most of you can probably already guess why im doing this. Nevertheless here are the main points.
1. It's centralised!
As every day passes I become more passionate about supporting decentralised systems.. When i see what has happened to Facebook, Twitter etc I am quite shocked.. and it takes quite a lot to shock me. Whilst i tend not to be too extreme about my decisions, there are some that I am resolute on.. and Discord is one example. I realise that Telegram is also centralised but at least it is a system that is known for its privacy etc. I really want to support new and better ways to communicate.. and to be honest i don’t even really know of one yet.. but one day MAYBE we'll have one!
2. Time and respect!
Keeping up with the various groups on Discord has taken a lot of my time up over the past few years. If i am really honest, i don’t really connect with most of the people who use it, and i also find that the very few useful conversations I have could really be done elsewhere or privately.. and would mean spending many many hours less time reading posts and comments that are not really relevant to me.. but since i see them i end up reading them all! I do have a HUGE amount of things on my plate right now with the ecoVillages project, setting up the land and preparing for the first Earthship build.
A few months ago i was curating for OCD using discord. I spent SO MUCH time doing that, It was a joy of course to help send such great up-votes to others.. In the end @acidyo removed me from being a curator, via a post that i spotted after someone told me about it. There was no message to me directly. There was no respect or anything shown to me for the amount of time i had put in.. Nor was there even a clear reason given why it had happened.. I felt that was not cool, and that made me feel pretty upset and unvalued.. I don't mind being removed but i would have appreciated some kind of personal message after the endless hours i spent curating for them. This is a theme i have with many others too, who use discord as a tool to help their cause, but i don’t feel the exchange is there..
Therefore im happy to really put discord down and free up more time for me to engage with people ON the blockchain and on Hive.
3. Scams and Spams and security
I’ve also had quite a lot of scammy messages from random people who are clearly scammers. Whilst i never click on these links, i don’t feel comfortable with it and do wonder about potential security flaws and holes in discord. Perhaps some of you heard about the whatssap malware that allowed people access to your entire phone if a scammer just calls you and you don’t even pick up!
4. Going back on the innernet
Finally, i think its fair to say that most of the people with whom i used to connect with on Hive, except for a few wonderful folk, have moved on or else no longer really connect with me. It came to my attention some months ago that several people had been spreading quite weird and even untrue rumours about me to others. This gossip has had the effect of making me feel quite misunderstood, and a bit sad too really.. I put SO much into Steem and Hive only to really end up being cast aside / judged or otherwise misrepresented by many people. IM not really one for chit chat as my of you know, so removing myself from this arena means i don’t have to be a part of this whole game.
SO! I hope that makes sense.. and please do feel free to get in touch if you need or desire on the above channels..
Wishing you all a beautiful weekend.. and see you on the innernet!
What's not talked about Discord enough is how they plan on making money while providing a huge, resource hungry platform. They don't know, and they're hoping to sell to someone who does. There's a lot of data to be mined in their databases, for sure.
yes.. its weird how we all ended up there really... its not even that hard to make a decent chat system technically (relatively speaking of course)... and discords not even a good way to communicate.. none threaded etc make it a total pain to have many people chatting..
it is what it is.. i guess.. maybe one day we will see something better happen..
Voice communication was once popular in Steem's earlier days. That's what made Discord a popular option in the first place. I'm not sure if people still hang out in voice chats a lot or if it was just a fad.
i remeber steemit chat.. for some reason that never really picked up.. although it was a bit spammy.. voice chat in steem days.. totally missed that although im usually a bit shy of too much voice with people i dont know..
anyways.. im happy to just cut a lot of the noise out for now and peace out a bit! ;)
There are in talks with Microsoft to sell Discord, if I remember correct
yup i heard that too.. not good im sure!
Accidentally voted this with the wrong account cause felt my comment wasn't really necessary to be at the top anymore after it was talked out, I'll keep it there but feel free to selfdownvote if you want. xD
its all good mate.. i was a bit out of line.. thanks for calling me out.. i try to really be clean but sometimes i fail..
post edit.. oops you were replying to pfunk..
Sorry I didn't message you directly, I was hoping people were actually checking the general channel for communities often as I would often post about things directed at them. I did leave the channels up for a week or so so everyone got the chance to catch up on what was happening. I'm not sure how you were seeing the community incubation, I'm surprised you thought of it as "doing it for us" when it was literally curating your own community. Kind of a weird thinking there, mate.
As I told you, your communities curation reports were already getting a good amount of upvotes so I decided to skip them, along with a few others like @haveyoubeenthere.
Dissappointed by the way you generalized this but not surprised in the end.
its all good .. i was more than happy to do it.. i was just really saying that it felt a bit weird how it all ended.. i really value communications else we can be left with many questions.. and then have to try figure out what happened..
would have made the WORLD of difference to just have had a message..:) so THANK you for acknowledging that.. above
i wonder why you are not surprised? perhaps you dont get my intentions i think
well it's kind of hard to not judge your intentions based on what you wrote above instead of just being like "hey would've been great if you had told me since I wasn't aware of what happened". Anyway, no hard feelings, good luck with the community.
yeah your right ,,. i apologise.. it wasnt right to say that .. i think i was feelin a bit fiery today.. ive edited that bit out
" I'm surprised you thought of it as "doing it for us" when it was literally curating your own community. Kind of a weird thinking there, mate."
**yeah i could have worded that better.. fair enough.. i get more than enough rewards and really dont care about that side of it..
Upvoted so people can see your response
a very wise decision! I can´t even remember when I last logged into discord, it is such a waste of time, I rather read books or blogs or watch interesting videos to learn something new.
glad u agree.. waste of time.. indeeed really.. every day passes and i have less of it left.. :)
I think weird rumours and criticism come with getting well known here...
Telegram is not exactly a great platform, I would like to offer my suggestion of matrix for a better platform
matrix is not entirely centralised more like mastodon several different servers and e2e encryption.
thanks for this.. ill check it out.. is HARD as no one i know is on Matrix.. but let see !
Yeah, matrix is not used very much, but it is really nice.
There are lots of freedom-cell groups (which you might do well to connect with) on matrix - element.io is a client using the matrix-protocol. @dbroze is involved with freedomcells, might be someone good to connect with too.
Namaste
Good decision Alex. I've rarely used Discord myself as it always seemed to be full of noise. I've been guilty though of hanging on to FB & Whatsapp but now have virtually let them go. I'm favouring element.io on the matrix.org protocol for secure-messaging, although it has some issues. Still tolerating Telegram for now.
I definitely prefer on-chain communications for non-sensitive stuff (and even some sensitive stuff -
Hey, Powers that Shouldn't Be - if you're reading - you're days are numbered, so you better start being kind! ;-).
long time atma! looks like ill be checking these new options out..
Good decision indeed!
Being in so many groups here and there + 1000s of irrelevant messages really eats up a real lot of one's time.
I've already left a lot of groups, spending more time reading, commenting, posting on the blockchain.
I find it weird that folks prefer chatting whole day on discord rather than commenting on someone good post. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Just a lot of rules here and there...like i don't have enough stress in my life!
thanks! and yes totally agree
I left after first time in 2017 I was just in there all time and not in real life. X
haha,,.. you are wise one ! and your last youtube was pretty stunning love!
HIVE!D
Stay off of Discord! It's total MK-Ultra, Honeypot tech... designed to fuck up your life while making you believe you're getting something done! You explained it very well...
HIVE!ON
lol so did u!
Please support my blog @eco-alex. Actually, I'm new here and I don't know how to promote my work in this platform. That's why I messaged you. Little bit upset to see that, there is no way for newbies to grow in this platform although this is good platform but those who truly deserve rewards don't get it.
Thank you!
Actually there is a lot you can do to grow on this platform. I see you've been posting for 8 days now and this is the first comment you've made. People aren't going to know you exist unless you interact with them to let them know you're here. You haven't even responded to comments on your own posts, so you're losing people who've taken the effort to reach out to you after finding your posts.
As with any social media platform, you can't expect to get known in just a few days any more than creating a successful business in a few days. Perhaps instead of looking for the negative criticisms, look for the positive advice. That way you're more likely to move forward. I can tell you that now, more than any time in this platform's life, more people than ever are getting fairly rewarded. You need to help us find you, though, and a positive attitude works better than a negative one. 😉
well said!
I agree with @minismallholding and I also suggest @raindrop that you join communities of your interest and participate.
weve all been there raindrop.. best way really is just keep posting and ENGAGE with other peoples posts.. to be honest asking for support rarely works. most people dont really respond well to it.. i think i did indeed upvote you today already,, .) keep posting,.. it will come!
I completely understand this move! I think you may be a pioneer.
While I will still be using discord, I think its definitely not the right atmosphere for every project. And it definitely is a huge time suck.
I'm excited to continue to see updates about what you are doing and how the projects are evolving! Win back that positive attitude, you are not alone, we are pushing, we are LOVE and we are winning!
thanks brother! that update is coming soon! so much going on !!
Haha you just made me clean up all my Discord.. left all except the 3 I'm involved with.. hope they don't see it as a personal thing 😂 .. Silly to have ones you don't visit much but still clutter up your day. I do like it for an organisational tool.. until we get a better encrypted chat I'm afraid it has to stay. It does work to organise teams of people.. can't do that on chain.
gla<d i can help save you a bit of time at least.. yes i can see how you use it to organise oh so many things.. xx
It's looking lovely and bare. I messaged every server owner to tell them it was nothing personal haha. Yes, there is a lot going on and a lot to organise! All for greater good of HIVE, so I dont mind really, and of course our beneficiaries go out to so many people, so having to be on Discord to get shit done is a necessary evil.
nice! and very cool that you took the time to message them and explain.. i know for one that i end up assuming the worst when people leave a group or undelegate etc without explaining it..
much love @riverflows xx i know u understand what efforts we put in for so long! many dont!
Hello there @eco-alex. I never got involved with discord for the exact reason, or should I say, one of your reasons for leaving it. TIME!
For myself, I enjoy the blockchain for having fun and meeting others from around the world. I enjoy the posts and contests, the reading and comments. But at my age, I can't waste a minute. I lead a very busy life, although retired. Seems everyday, time just wizzes by.
Best of luck my friend, I am sure you have made the choice.
Peace.
thank you love! its been a pleasure getting to know you .. and very happy to see you return to the chain!
Peace to you my brother. Let's just keep the love going round. We need it.
I can say you have a good reasons for not being in Discord again and being on Telegram is also a great place to reach you at. Nevertheless, I wouldn't want you to take those criticizing as something bad to you. Just keep doing what you love to do and be happy always.
thank you
Wise decision, what ever you plan doing ,keep doing what you know how to do best and you've all the support you need
🤔😔
Forgive, Forget and Let Go my dear......the mantra to carefree life. Speak out whatever you have to and then release it. Let's keep life minimal, and that is your strategy of life I know. I have been off from Discord right from beginning, except for sending out some personal messages with my inner circle, it is difficult for me to put my mind on all of this, and happy in a way. You have made a wise decision, keep off it, better, not on Discord but all other such platforms as well.
good advice.. yes that is basically how i try to roll.. the forgive part i can only seen to do after some good communication.. thank fully its often possible to have it.. but not always of course.. sometimes it just takes time.. time heals also...
much love.. i think you are on the move.. xx
Thanks for your help @eco-alex. You were very concise with your suggestions. It made a huge difference. Thank you. I wanted to vote for you as witness.