Can't get users due to lack of interaction.
Can't get interaction due to lack of users.
Can't win :)
Need pioneers to break the cycle.
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Can't get users due to lack of interaction.
Can't get interaction due to lack of users.
Can't win :)
Need pioneers to break the cycle.
The platform broke through in Spring 2017. DV's killed it, because that threatened to distribute stake and end the plutocracy that has governed the platform since a couple dozen users mined the majority of stake in 2016. There have been minor changes over time in that oligarchy, but the plutocracy continues to maintain the majority of stake by funding HW to continue to flag users off the platform to this day.
DV's concentrate stake and perpetuate the plutocratic control of Hive. Now the millions of accounts claimed and accumulated by the substantially staked are being automated with AI. These flaws are features for the plutocracy, but they prevent Hive from rising to dominate the social media industry that has overtaken all other industries to become the largest sector of the global financial market because at the same time Hive has earned the lowest user retention of all social media platforms.
DV's have driven 99.99% of new users away, and this is because that taxation is theft. That is why Hive has lower user retention than egregiously censored Web2 platforms. The crushed hopes of Hive users are worse than the absence of hope of users of Web2 platforms. AI doesn't have hopes and doesn't care. AI socks will turn Hive into a parody of social media, bots talking to bots, and the owners of those accounts will eventually sell and float off into the sunset with @ned - after they finish mining the DHF for that ~$20M with Valueplan fraud and kickbacks.
All this can be resolved with code at anytime.
I'm not sure that DVs are used as much as you suggest. Most people won't get them and there's no big incentive for big accounts to drive people away as that devalues the platform. A few people do get slammed, but that is usually down to bad behaviour (with exceptions). It can also be just people falling out.
I do think that DVs should not be used on new accounts unless they are obviously scamming. People need to understand what is acceptable and a comment on that may be enough.
I expect a lot of people give up when they don't make much immediately and something else gets their attention. They will go where their friends are.
Hive is imperfect, but still better than a lot of other platforms.
Most people on the platform already did, and we're what's left.
Cash is king. You're talking about potential value the platform could have if distribution wasn't flagged away. By maintaining the majority of stake and controlling the witnesses the plutocrats control actual governance now, and reap the value of that now. Prudential interest requires maintaining control instead of chasing spooks.
Falling off of Hive. >1m users were here and now there's ~3k of us. That's a lot of falling out. If you ask people that used to use Hive why they don't anymore, they'll tell you they were flagged off the platform. HW did that.
The vast majority of social media users disagree with you - or they would if you were posting on a platform they used. Flags are why you're not.
Edit: BTW I donate 25% of my author rewards to accounts and comments - and I tip authors not on that list that are flagged on their every post and comment. Over time the list of authors I donate to and tip changes, because that population is always dropping off and being added to.
I suggest doing that for a couple years, so you can see what censorship looks like on Hive. You seem not to know much about it.
I support lots of people and I also do some DVs, but that is generally for blatant plagiarism that does not deserve rewards. I've seen a fair few people who got heavy DVs for whatever reason and they make a lot of noise about about it so it seems like a bigger issue than it is (IMHO).
Given that the $HIVE price is still low the 'plutocrats' are doing a crap job of getting richer. I've met a few of them and they are not the demons they are portrayed as.
There are lots of reasons why Hive is not growing and we should be concerned. I do what I can, but my influence is small. That doesn't mean I'll stop trying.
A bit pejorative, but I point out as often as I discuss the matter that it is prudence that is behind these machinations. Neglecting to chase spooks when you have the real deal in hand isn't doing a crap job. It's maintaining extant cash flow and income, if at the cost of theoretical potential that might or might not run into any of dozens of impediments besides whales maintaining their lock on governance.
Undertaking unnecessary risk is directly contrary to the first rule of investing, which is keep your principal. I don't object to prudence, nor preservation of capital, but I do the incessant deception that is undertaken to justify it, to them as don't know better, to be availed of their productivity, at least until they give up. I wouldn't necessarily call that demonic, but it's not good, honest business and that has cast the stink eye of the cryptosphere and the market for social media upon Hive, for good reason.
Flagging a plagiarist when they publish plagiarism to gain author rewards is the one purpose which I am hard pressed to demonstrate DV's are without utility to serve. However, that isn't at all an accurate description of what HW does, which is to tax content providers 100% of their earnings on every post and comment indefinitely, if they ever once somehow triggered HW, whether rightly or not. All too often accusations of self-plagiarism, also publishing content elsewhere, or just not engaging with their audience enough to please HW are all the justification they need to tax an account's earnings 100% forever. These are laughable pretenses, that along with their false claims that such unrestrained taxation isn't censorship, demonstrate at least disingenuity, if not outright malice.
My experience here and familiarity with claims of them that have left is that DV's are the only substantive reason. The bidbots were another that potentially so disgusted many good folks they put us in their rear view for good, but honestly I have not heard any say so. The fact that ~1m users onboarded and undertook to climb the learning curve to post here disproves that onboarding or the UI were relevant to Hive's abysmal user retention. I'm unaware of any other potential reasons, much less lots.
Well HW are a divisive force. I don't agree with all they do, but I have seen them withdraw their DVs from people on appeal. It's all just humans with their failings, but they are not exactly doing it to be loved. I don't think they are as evil as some make out, but they need to give more people a chance to redeem themselves. Many come here with wrong expectations.
You do know that hundreds of thousands of accounts do not have a person behind each of them I assume. Yes I know a lot have left and that is a big shame. I know plenty just gave up or got bored. We need compelling reasons to be here.
We're not going to agree on many things, but that's fine. Just do what you think is right. We can't change some things easily.
Looks like you managed to upset someone with your first comment. That's quite an achievement, but those since were left alone. It would take you a while to build your rep back up. Some people value blunt opinions if they are valid.
Enjoy the drama :)
!BEER
Which part of the 'north' do you hail from?
Simple - Quality users which find wider picture in Hive. For some stupid reason we all here for 8+ years, and honestly it wouldn't be worth to lose this kind of people over 10k bots