I was playing with a script that I wrote a while back. It does a basic search of Hive accounts to see how many people are active in a selection of countries. I am counting them as active if they have done something in the last month. The criteria for the countries is very simple and it will miss a fair few, but it can still show trends. The first number is for the last month and the second is from when I ran this a couple of months ago.
Australia: 133, 143
Austria: 53, 53
Bangladesh: 107, 125
Belgium: 37, 40
Brasil: 140, 133
Canada: 145, 171
China: 34, 46
Cuba: 144, 81
Egypt: 1, 2
El Salvador: 3, 3
France: 60, 72
Germany: 268, 293
Ghana: 48, 0
Hong Kong: 14, 13
India: 182, 218
Indonesia: 242, 369
Iran: 19, 20
Israel: 16, 15
Italy: 98, 119
Japan: 45, 48
Malaysia: 85, 95
Myanmar: 31, 39
Netherlands: 64, 63
Nigeria: 466, 530
Norway: 30, 31
Paraguay: 18, 18
Philippines: 392, 418
Poland: 74, 84
Russia: 33, 36
South Africa: 94, 103
South Korea: 24, 30
Spain: 83, 97
Thailand: 39, 43
Turkey: 33, 37
Ukraine: 90, 114
Venezuela: 1683, 1625
Vietnam: 18, 23
USA: 291, 341
You can see that numbers have dropped in a lot of countries. For Indonesia it is around 30%. Nigeria and the USA also lost a fair few. Cuba, on the other hand, is booming. Venezuela has the most by far and is growing. I think growth of Hive is going to be uneven, but if it gets more established in somewhere like Venezuela then people will take notice. Obviously it makes a big difference to people there to even earn a few dollars.
I only added Ghana this time, but I know there is good work going on there. You make notice that the UK is missing, but then I have a different script that searches very thoroughly for people and about 150 are currently active. You can track that on the #BritList posts.
It would be easier to track this sort of thing if people were more consistent with their profile location data, but that is not enforced and people can be as vague as they like.
I think we need to be concerned that people are leaving Hive even as it gains functionality. I get that some think that crypto is in a slump, but you can earn here every day in many ways. Even automated voting can get you around 8% APR on your HP. I expect there may be a fair few just taking HBD interest, but that does not show up in these numbers.
As well as recruiting new Hivers we need to keep existing people engaged. I would not be surprised if a lot of people give up after a few weeks. It does take effort to build engagement, but if you can build some sort of community around a common interest then you have the start of something. I really think Hive can be better for this than some of the alternative platforms despite its limitations.
I am interested in suggestions for countries to add, but also to hear from people in different countries about how their community is doing.
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i think hive is doing very nicely considering the crypto slump. Community is still active, boreholes are being funded, hivefest is happening, its still making a difference in peoples lives. numbers go down when the hype isnt there but thats ok, hive kicks along at a reasonable enough pace. I think it will remain here to lift people up when they are trying to climb, or to catch us when we're falling. It makes me think of a bar on a space station in between galaxies where people stop off to socialise or gamble a little money, or grab the latest galactic news thread, or join a convention of brilliant minds, or stop to vent and mouth off about the system, get drunk and have a very public, immutable slagging match, build a new space shack on the side of the station and invite people in for a few rounds of low-g mini golf before the roof caves in and the oxygen drains away. I love it. Its always colourful and peculiar and filled with shattered dreams and newly formed horizons and places to get your imagination stuck in to. I dont feel i need anything more from it than this fascinating narrative feast
Cheers for the brain dump ;) Hive is a fun place for me that always has something interesting. I spend more time here than on other social media. Twtr is a bin fire and FB full of ads. I want to see the people I would follow there come over, but it's not generally on their radar. We have the eternal issue of not being big enough to attract content creators, but we need them to bring in more 'consumers'.
In my mind the state of crypto in general is not that relevant as you can earn on Hive regardless. When things pick up you can enjoy the benefits.
Much as I love our little community I want to see others get involved. Hive could be very different if it ever got to millions of active people, but bring it on!
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Keychain has made Hive much easier and more secure. We used to have to enter our keys into each site and people would make mistakes with that.
It's hard to nurture Indonesian Community and the number amazes me because I feel we have lost more than half of users in the last few months. Our community is not a solid one, we divided into several smaller groups which have conflict of interest and I think it won't change in the near future. I can't blame others because I am part of that cause too.
I believe each community has their own unique problems, not just us. However in this bear market not much we can do because of the resources.
Currently we see some new and returning Indonesian users in actifit and hive open mic. We are trying to embrace them and we hope from those two community we can plan some ways to get more Indonesian users.
Communities do not have to unify across a whole country. As long as people have others they want to be with we can build communities. Countries are just a convenient way to group people, but the lack of metadata makes that hard to do. Hive is so small now that a few people can make a big difference.
We don't get rewarded directly for building communities, but it can pay off in various ways. I'm having fun and meeting up with fellow Brits is part of that. We've lost various people too, but some may come back.
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Can you check for Pakistan ?
I find 73 for Pakistan.
It just means people don't mention pakistan in bio. I am sure Pakistan have more active users than 73 :(
I expect most countries would have better numbers if people gave decent data on their profile. For the UK list I search on lots of different words plus I find some by other means. I'd like to see others maintain a list for their country like I do for the #BritList. They can use my Python scripts for that.
Yes, you shared script with me. I search Pakistan to find new hivers currently. It's like 2 fake intro per day. And 10 new Pakistani ids found per month. But most of them become inactive later.
Just an approx calculation. I use Friday bot mostly.
You may need to work with the new people you find to get them to stick around. They need reasons to come back and it's not always just about money. It's a huge potential market anyway.
Other than Cuba, the Caribbean is grossly underrepresented. Fortunately, @CaribDAO is bring back the ol' ReggaeSteem Vibes 😎...
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Well maybe others will notice what is happening in Cuba. Good luck with your efforts.
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Those 'Hive police' are just people too. The community need to work with them to do what is best for Hive. They will lose out too if it doesn't do well. There is abuse to be dealt with, but it needs to be fair to those who just make mistakes. I just saw a case this week where a post by an apparent new user made a lot, but people did the research to find it was probably faked. The rewards got removed. We should welcome new people, but be vigilant for fraud. It helps if those who introduce someone can help verify them.
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Venezuela is kicking it! Must be their currency is the pits. That's why their citizens are using crypto in the first place.
After Venezuela, it looks like Nigeria, the Philippines, Germany, and Indonesia are rocking it. And the U.S. too, despite losing some numbers. I think people in the U.S. have different concerns that people in these smaller countries with smaller economies and a currency that isn't the world's reserve currency. In the U.S., if you spend a lot of time crafting content and get a low return, even if it's better than in other places, you feel discouraged and spend your time elsewhere. The same amount of time in a place like Venezuela or Nigeria can earn a fraction of the rewards a U.S. creator can earn and it could be considered decent income.
In all, this is pretty decent work.
It is a matter of perspective. People in Venezuela may only earn a few dollars per month normally, so Hive can make a difference. Even there it is only a tiny minority of people using Hive for now. I know some people fear a flood of what they consider 'low quality' content, but Hive is open to all and even the big accounts could not downvote everyone. So it could get interesting if it takes off there.
I was around when some people made thousands from a single post and even I could make $200 sometimes. The algorithm has changed, but then the price dropped too. It has not gone down to 7c as it did previously. I kept posting even then as it is fun. I've spent a lot of time on Hive and it has to pay me in more than money.
You also get paid in reputation and credibility. If you become a Hive celebrity (is there such a thing?), that's a type of currency.
I've got some sort of reputation here by being active. Not that I really have anything to sell. For now I'm a medium fish in a tiny pond :)
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Very cool info! And yes, tendency seems to be the opposite that what we would want to see. Here goes Portugal as a suggestion for a future list! Cheers! !BEER
I've added Portugal for next time. Currently it has 60 with 'Portugal' or 'Lisbon' in the profile. I'm sure someone could find many more, but it takes some investigation work as I do for the #BritList.
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Nice work. I like that Australia is on top of the list! even if it is only because it alphabetical
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Wow, those numbers are pretty sad for the US. I would have guessed there were a lot more. Kind of makes you realize just how small we are. It's honestly a little depressing no matter which column you look at. Good old Venezuela though, making a living off Hive.
We have to accept that Hive is tiny, but that means we have potential for growth. If someone brings in a thousand fans then it will make a big difference.
Yeah, that would definitely make a difference.
BTW I searched for variations of USA or United States. That will miss all those people who just have their state or city in the profile, so there will be a lot more. I'm not aware of anyone doing a comprehensive US version of my BritList.
That's a good point. A lot of people put nothing or something more whimsical too.
A lot of people on the BritList do not have a real location, but I found them by other means. It needs some manual effort.
I am surprised at South Africa, as it is many more than I thought.
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But crypto is in a slump ... two years of a bear are HARD. The life of a content creator, to be successful, is also HARD. The life of the pandemic has also been EXTRA HARD. As someone who has been around since 2019, and thus has experienced two bears, I know that people need a higher level of support than at other times. This is one of the reasons you see my little newsletter that started this year (and will see your article in it this Friday) ... I know that people need to feel seen, at least, to keep going, and engagement and recognition has to fill the gap if the rewards are not there. I admire your #BritList also for the same reason, and also @tenkminnows. Hive as a whole CAN DO THIS ... we just have to CARE.
I wonder if it's more about reality kicking in. Crypto was really hyped for a while and people went crazy. Now it's time to shake out the worthless coins. Obviously I think Hive has value.
I agree with you -- Hive does have value. The challenge is, no coin can likely escape the gravity of 70-95 percent of all value leaving the market. Hive is at about 90 percent down, and as altcoins go, that is actually not too bad. I think that because Hive has been developing so much through the bear, that will be to its advantage as the market turns PROVIDED we can market it correctly and also NURTURE the people who come here in a way that is far deeper than money.
We do not see the name of Pakistan in this list, many people are using it inside Pakistan as well.
See my other comment. Only 73 found, but it may be missing some.
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