ecotheexploiter cross-posted this post in HiveDevs 9 days ago


Its not censorship - Just build "your own" front end!

in Synergy Builders9 days ago (edited)

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How many times have we heard this?

Somebody gets flagged, and cries censorship. "It's not censorship, all the data is there". Its a "front-end" issue. And recently I became aware how tricky that is when I talked to @asgarth about solving my specific problem.

But before we dive in, seriously? How has this not been done before and already open source? We'll get there....

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@jelly13. What can I say. I'm not sure how he'll feel if I say friend, but I can say that its a user I have grown to respect and value quite a bit.

If I had to put a finger on it, probably I would say when he fined tuned my binomial distribution model of gerbers game for fuzzy probability; honestly one of my top 10 experiences on HIVE, I learned so much.

Maybe you would like to take a look?

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The false positive case has always haunted me. I have been personally attached to a few of them. But never anyone so hardy and rugged as jelly.

Ecobank Roadmap Conclusion post that I went out to seek additional upvotes for it. It was the third part in the series, and this was THE FIRST comment on HIVE that actually answered and addressed my concerns in all three of the posts. Shocking right, that engagement farming is worse than worthless to me on a corporate post?In fact, recently @jelly13 provided the most valuable comment on my

How do you think that turned out?

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Yeah.

I don't even blame the guy, @usainvote probably at least half automated, seeing a -14 rep user getting big votes on a comment. "comment is hidden". Boom. Zero rewards. @jelly13 don't care, my curation is bruised.

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It doesn't matter that the comment was exactly what I was asking for in my post, that it was 233 words long or that it provided 100x the value of any number of actifit posts put together.

Seriously, it doesn't matter. This actually is, and always was - a front-end problem.

So I went to the front-ends. After unmuting on chain 10 times, making @jelly13 a member of my community, unmuting both user and comment a few more times to see ..... nothing.

Then I talked for probably 30 minutes with @asgarth over the course of a week. But what if its porn?

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I became quickly aware of the real issue. Peakd is an "everything app", my personal favorite. But for somethings, sharing isn't easy, in fact as @asgarth said:

I need much more code to handle that

False positive is an edge case, by definition. Sure if we "scale" then there will be a lot more of them. But its been poking at me for a long time that one of our struggles with scaling is that we try to force naturally rebellious people (why else would they be here?) to share a same "front end".

As I said to someone recently:

These are tools of freedom. But its not freedom from viciousness, instead freedom to establish protocols by which we can live in a world with vicious people.

Here comes the spam

Actually, I think this is quite clever. A front end that doesn't show rewards. Any "monetization" or "demonitization" can happen out of view (AS IT DOES ON YOUTUBE AND TWITTER, you know actual social medias that people use).

Who would use this? Well I have a few ideas actually, but let's talk about "the rebel".

The rebel thinks his content is actually valuable - so he would invest extra time (github repo) or money (premium tool) to have his content VISIBLE.

See the trick? Scammers don't actually think their content is valuable! The rebel self selects and MAYBE, just maybe, over time "something" can be worked out.

Who is this guy that you are shilling?

Just an internet guy, who got in a fight about (in my humble opinion) "european politics". If I got downvoted to oblivion every time I fought about "politics", I wouldn't have any alts left, and maybe @jelly13 knows within an order of magnitude just how many that really is.

I got blanked downvoted by Haejin once, way back in the flag wars, ironically for "defending him" in an adult in the room middle ground way that he probably just skimmed.

I started posting 9 days later again.

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Here is my situation. I am "kind of a big deal" in my own head, mostly because I cannot always articulate "in real time" to the common man everything I am doing. Explaining it is another job!

To see my corporate post get treated this way, by the front-end, makes it clear to me that peakd is not, and will not be EVER, a corporate website.

ECOBANK needs a site that hides all the politics. And frankly, monetization. Because that would be "professional".

I need this tool anyway.

So let's start a discussion about false positives, and rebels. Because this is going open source.

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