Locked out of PS-Plus and PS Network on day one of PS5 ownership

in Hive Gaminglast month (edited)

...and I'll tell you how it happened and how to avoid it happening to you should you find yourself upgrading to a PS5 in the future.

So I was super excited with my new purchase, it's been years that I have been eyeing up at a PS5 and just never got one because I always told myself that I will buy one once my PS4 stops working. Things happen, and because my brother and a few friends who are the only people I play online with all had PS5's, I wasn't able to play along with them on most games. It's funny that a game so repetitive and some would say a bit boring, that I ended up biting the bullet and finally buying a PS5.


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I was like a kid on Christmas when I got this thing home but since I am an adult now I was very careful with how I opened the packaging, making sure to hang on to every little thing that was contained inside. I carefully plugged it all up and followed all the instructions when I fired it up.

In retrospect, one of the moves that I made next was one that eventually failed and I am glad that it did.

I decided to transfer ALL DATA from my PS4 to my PS5 using the wifi. I didn't pay attention to the little sidebar where it informs you about how long this is estimated to take. If I had, I would have seen that it was going to be around 80 hours to completion.


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Thankfully, in my situation something went wrong and I had to start the entire process over. This was after just a couple of hours and after that time I changed course and decided to simply transfer all the personal information and trophies etc, nothing else. The individual games might not even be compatible from one system to the next so that would just be a waste of time anyway, right?

Well, during that time my PS4 kept randomly turning on without permission frequently, and this lead to my eventual dismay as when I tried to go to the PS-Network in order to play a game of Chaosbane with my brother that I was forced to login manually, and then told that my account was permanently suspended.


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I'm no goodie two-shoes, but I don't just run around violating ToS for the sheer fun of it. I couldn't imagine what I could have possibly been doing wrong and it was a massive pain in the ass because since I have a night job and the USA tech support keeps bankers hours I couldn't do anything about it. I will say that Sony does exactly what every other company does and that is to do anything in their power to prevent you from being able to talk to an actual person. Finding where you can speak to a representative is an exercise in extreme frustration on their website as they force you to navigate through a maze of unrelated FAQ's before you eventually discover somewhere that you can maybe speak to a human. In my case I was then greeted by their hours of operation but since it took me so damn long to even get to that point I just left the page open for the next 10 hours.

As it turns out, my account was automatically flagged for fraud because my phone number has changed since I bought my PS4 8 years ago. Imagine that? A person has a different phone number after nearly a decade? Well, when entering my new information on my new PS5, I kind of preferred that it have my actual phone number and not one that I had in 2015 - maybe that's just how I like to operate.

Anyway, when my PS4 kept auto-turning-itself on, it was accessing the PS-Network as well, and this would happen every time that I put my PS5 into rest-mode or sleep-mode or whatever it is called. So from Sony's point of view they have two different accounts attempting to access the same PS-Plus account multiple times a day.

I was able to talk to someone and they asked a bunch of security questions, several of which I had difficulty remembering such as "what is the last 4 digits of the credit card you have registered with your account?" Like many Americans, I have a bunch of credit cards and I didn't remember which one it was. But we eventually got to the point where they believed it was me and explained what had happened.

I am only now just getting back in to my own account and while I appreciate the fraud prevention attempt, I think that it would be a lot better if they were to, I dunno, pop off an email to the person explaining what had happened rather than just putting something so ominous on the screen as "permanently suspended."

So if you buy a PS5 and are transferring data from it to your PS4, make sure that you have the feature on the PS4 that auto-logs-in switched off, because if your smart TV behaves the way that my Samsung does, it will switch your PlayStation on even if you don't want it to. I have since deactivated all of that.

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good timing for you to buy that in december

I forget exactly how it happened now but a year or so ago I was locked out of the account management for the a domain I had registered many years ago (and still use). It was extremely difficult to get to an actual live person and when I did, one of the pieces of security information they wanted was the last four digits of the credit card i had originally used when opening the account...more than a decade ago. By this point, i had been using PayPal to pay for years and had no idea what credit card I had used and the number had certainly changed more than once. After digging through old e-mails and paperwork for hours I finally figured it out but man what a pain.

I got it sorted but it is a bit silly that they expect you to remember all of that. I mean, I am happy that they are trying to prevent my card / account from being used by someone else but to just blanket lock me out without so much as actually emailing me the actual email that they said would accompany this ban is just ridiculous.

Glad you got it fixed. Will have to keep that in mind, because I am thinking of getting a PS5.

I've been very happy with it other than this one thing. The menu is filled with a lot of trash ads but these can be deactivated.

Did not know that could happen on there. Good to know you can get rid of them though.

it's very customizable but by default it is constantly trying to sell you things which was always going to happen with the digital world that we live in now.

Being bombarded by ads is not fun.

you just switch the slider off and they no longer happen. At least they didn't make it something that you cannot deactivate. That will probably come in the PS6

I can feel the excitement and frustration. It's great you finally got it resolved though the part about the account suspension was sad.

These are things that we must take into account but that no one explains to us when it happens xD hahaha so are many aspects in life the good thing is that everything has a solution or well almost everything. :)

wow sounds so complicated :3 congrqtz on the new ps5!

thanks buddy!

you're welcome man

As a guy who is also going to upgrade my console to PS5, this is very good information. I shall change up all the information there. Cheers 👌

well that's fantastic! I hope the problem doesn't happen to you and you are just as happy as I have been with mine... well other than being locked out of it for a day

A few years ago someone managed to get into my account, somehow bypassing the 2SV. No clue how they did.

But last year when I got my PS5 I had to get a hold of PS to change my number as 2SV was still setup, I no longer had my ps4, and had a new phone. It wasn't bad for me. And was pretty straight forward. Sucky that you had the opposite experience. But at least you got your account back!

I think that if you can find the correct help section that will really streamline the process, I just got so frustrated that Sony, which is an absolutely massive company, hides their contact / help information so deeply in their support section.

So from Sony's point of view they have two different accounts attempting to access the same PS-Plus account multiple times a day.

Remember that one E3 where Sony mocked Microsoft by showing how easy it was to share a game with someone?

haha, yeah. How times have changed. I paid a bit extra for the PS5 with a disc drive so that I can buy used games on Ebay from the early adopters.